Gaddafi is Dead. Thank you Obama.

Gaddafi is Dead. Thank you Obama.

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October 20th, 2011, 3:43 pm #1

Gaddafi is Dead. Thank you Obama. Granted, you may not get alot of things right, such as with the US Recovery, but I think you Obama for being cost-effective in launching a campaign for about 1 billion dollars US cost to KILL a KNOWN TERRORIST against the USA. (Vice Bush, who spent 1,000 times that much and had not achieved the goal of getting Bin Laden by the time he left office nearly 8 years later). Not to mention, not one US troop died in this Libyan effort. Thank you Obama. You have sent a great message to the world in that the USA does indeed get those who attack us. (And we do NOT have to go BROKE or overcommit to ground troops in the effort and can still achieve the goal!!)



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Muammar Gaddafi Reportedly Killed

Muammar Gaddafi was reportedly killed on Thursday, as Libya's new leaders declared they had overrun the last bastion of his long rule, sparking wild celebrations that eight months of war may finally be over.


An image captured from a cellular phone camera purports to show the arrest of Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi in Sirte on October 20, 2011. A Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) commander told AFP that Gaddafi was captured as his hometown Sirte was falling.

Libya's de-facto Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril confirmed that Gaddafi had been killed, and the vice chairman of Libya's National Transitional Council, Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, said the interim government would announce the liberation of Libya "within hours."

That would be a landmark announcement, after which the interim government has said it would begin the transition to democracy in the North African state ruled by Gaddafi with an iron fist for 42 years until August.

"We confirm that all the evils, plus Gaddafi, have vanished from this beloved country," Jibril said. "I think it's for the Libyans to realize that it's time to start a new Libya, a united Libya, one people, one future."

Western powers, who have backed the rebellion which took the capital Tripoli two months ago, said they were still checking.

NATO said its aircraft attacked two military vehicles near Sirte on Thursday, but could not confirm that Gaddafi was a passenger. U.S. warplanes were not involved in any air strikes in Libya at that time, a Pentagon spokesman said.

U.S. officials scrambled to check reports that Gaddafi had died. Administration officials, including those at the State Department and Pentagon, were was trying to confirm him death.

"We've seen the media reports but can't confirm them," State Department spokeswoman Beth Gosselin told Reuters.

In the past, some reports about Gaddafi's whereabouts and the fate of his sons have proved false.

Several NTC fighters in Sirte said they had seen Gaddafi shot dead, though their accounts varied.

Libyan television and other channels showed images on Thursday of troops surrounding two large drainage pipes under a highway where it said Gaddafi was found. Spray painted above the pipe openings were the words "contemptible Gaddafi" and "God is greatest." There was one corpse, apparently a Gaddafi loyalist, lying on the ground next to the openings.

Al Jazeera English Television broadcast what it said was exclusive footage showing a body, reported to be Gaddafi, being dragged by rebels along a street. The footage showed a half naked body being stripped of his shirt. His face was red with blood and had a bullet hole in the side of his head. The legs of a uniformed transitional government fighter were showing next to the dead man's face.

A body, reported to be Gaddafi, was said to be taken to the city of Misrata, NTC information minister Mahmoud Shammam said on Thursday.

"After taking Gaddafi's body to Misrata, the NTC will make a statement giving details of his death," he told Reuters.

Al Arabiya TV reported later that the corpse had reached the city, and Al Jazeera reported that the body had been taken to a mosque there.

With a final declaration of the country's "liberation" from 42 years of one-man rule apparently imminent, and crowds firing in the air and dancing in the streets of Tripoli and Benghazi, Libyan television said NTC chairman Mustafa Abdel Jalil was about to address the nation.

The two months since the fall of Tripoli have tested the nerves of the motley alliance of anti-Gaddafi forces and their Western and Arab backers, who had begun to question the ability of the NTC forces to root out diehard Gaddafi loyalists in Sirte and a couple of other towns.

Libyan Prime Minister Jibril said he had unconfirmed reports that Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam had been tracked down near the city of Sirte and that his convoy was under attack.

He also called on neighboring Algeria to hand over members of Gaddafi's family who fled there in August. Two of Gaddafi's sons, his daughter and his wife are in Algeria.

Arab Spring

The death of Gaddafi himself became perhaps the most dramatic development since the Arab Spring revolts that have unseated rulers in neighbouring Tunisia and Egypt and threaten the grip on power of the leaders of Syria and Yemen.

"He (Gaddafi) was also hit in his head," NTC official Abdel Majid Mlegta told Reuters. "There was a lot of firing against his group and he died."

Mlegta told Reuters earlier that Gaddafi, who was in his late 60s, was captured and wounded in both legs at dawn on Thursday as he tried to flee in a convoy which NATO warplanes attacked. He said he had been taken away by an ambulance.

An NTC fighter in Sirte said he had seen Gaddafi shot after he was cornered and captured in a tunnel near a roadway.

The capture of Sirte means Libya's ruling NTC should now begin the task of forging a new democratic system which it had said it would get under way after the city, Gaddafi's hometown rebuilt as a showpiece for his rule, had fallen.

As potentially vast revenues from oil and gas begin to roll in again, Libya's six million people, scattered in towns spread across wide deserts, face a major task in organising a new system of government that can allocate resources across long-competing tribal, ethnic and regional divisions.

Gaddafi, wanted by the International Criminal Court on charges of ordering the killing of civilians, was toppled by rebel forces on Aug. 23, a week short of the 42nd anniversary of the military coup which brought him to power in 1969.

NTC fighters hoisted the red, black and green national flag above a large utilities building in the center of a newly captured Sirte neighbourhood and celebratory gunfire broke out among their ecstatic and relieved comrades.

Hundreds of NTC troops had surrounded the Mediterranean coastal town for weeks in a chaotic struggle that killed and wounded scores of the besieging forces and an unknown number of defenders.

NTC fighters said there were a large number of corpses inside the last redoubts of the Gaddafi troops. It was not immediately possible to verify that information.

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October 20th, 2011, 5:42 pm #2

They told us they got bin Laden but there was no proof offered at all -- no DNA evidence, no pictures (although that would have been too gory for public viewing at least it could have been shown to impartial investigators), no body produced because they buried him at sea? I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it just sounds like a big fat lie and cover-up. He once had CIA ties and support -- and he turned out to be the ultimate blowback. We have reaped what we have sown. I would not be surprised at all to find that the CIA put did plastic surgery on bin Laden and put him in their version of a witness protection program.

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October 20th, 2011, 7:05 pm #3

Gaddafi is Dead. Thank you Obama. Granted, you may not get alot of things right, such as with the US Recovery, but I think you Obama for being cost-effective in launching a campaign for about 1 billion dollars US cost to KILL a KNOWN TERRORIST against the USA. (Vice Bush, who spent 1,000 times that much and had not achieved the goal of getting Bin Laden by the time he left office nearly 8 years later). Not to mention, not one US troop died in this Libyan effort. Thank you Obama. You have sent a great message to the world in that the USA does indeed get those who attack us. (And we do NOT have to go BROKE or overcommit to ground troops in the effort and can still achieve the goal!!)



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Muammar Gaddafi Reportedly Killed

Muammar Gaddafi was reportedly killed on Thursday, as Libya's new leaders declared they had overrun the last bastion of his long rule, sparking wild celebrations that eight months of war may finally be over.


An image captured from a cellular phone camera purports to show the arrest of Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi in Sirte on October 20, 2011. A Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) commander told AFP that Gaddafi was captured as his hometown Sirte was falling.

Libya's de-facto Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril confirmed that Gaddafi had been killed, and the vice chairman of Libya's National Transitional Council, Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, said the interim government would announce the liberation of Libya "within hours."

That would be a landmark announcement, after which the interim government has said it would begin the transition to democracy in the North African state ruled by Gaddafi with an iron fist for 42 years until August.

"We confirm that all the evils, plus Gaddafi, have vanished from this beloved country," Jibril said. "I think it's for the Libyans to realize that it's time to start a new Libya, a united Libya, one people, one future."

Western powers, who have backed the rebellion which took the capital Tripoli two months ago, said they were still checking.

NATO said its aircraft attacked two military vehicles near Sirte on Thursday, but could not confirm that Gaddafi was a passenger. U.S. warplanes were not involved in any air strikes in Libya at that time, a Pentagon spokesman said.

U.S. officials scrambled to check reports that Gaddafi had died. Administration officials, including those at the State Department and Pentagon, were was trying to confirm him death.

"We've seen the media reports but can't confirm them," State Department spokeswoman Beth Gosselin told Reuters.

In the past, some reports about Gaddafi's whereabouts and the fate of his sons have proved false.

Several NTC fighters in Sirte said they had seen Gaddafi shot dead, though their accounts varied.

Libyan television and other channels showed images on Thursday of troops surrounding two large drainage pipes under a highway where it said Gaddafi was found. Spray painted above the pipe openings were the words "contemptible Gaddafi" and "God is greatest." There was one corpse, apparently a Gaddafi loyalist, lying on the ground next to the openings.

Al Jazeera English Television broadcast what it said was exclusive footage showing a body, reported to be Gaddafi, being dragged by rebels along a street. The footage showed a half naked body being stripped of his shirt. His face was red with blood and had a bullet hole in the side of his head. The legs of a uniformed transitional government fighter were showing next to the dead man's face.

A body, reported to be Gaddafi, was said to be taken to the city of Misrata, NTC information minister Mahmoud Shammam said on Thursday.

"After taking Gaddafi's body to Misrata, the NTC will make a statement giving details of his death," he told Reuters.

Al Arabiya TV reported later that the corpse had reached the city, and Al Jazeera reported that the body had been taken to a mosque there.

With a final declaration of the country's "liberation" from 42 years of one-man rule apparently imminent, and crowds firing in the air and dancing in the streets of Tripoli and Benghazi, Libyan television said NTC chairman Mustafa Abdel Jalil was about to address the nation.

The two months since the fall of Tripoli have tested the nerves of the motley alliance of anti-Gaddafi forces and their Western and Arab backers, who had begun to question the ability of the NTC forces to root out diehard Gaddafi loyalists in Sirte and a couple of other towns.

Libyan Prime Minister Jibril said he had unconfirmed reports that Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam had been tracked down near the city of Sirte and that his convoy was under attack.

He also called on neighboring Algeria to hand over members of Gaddafi's family who fled there in August. Two of Gaddafi's sons, his daughter and his wife are in Algeria.

Arab Spring

The death of Gaddafi himself became perhaps the most dramatic development since the Arab Spring revolts that have unseated rulers in neighbouring Tunisia and Egypt and threaten the grip on power of the leaders of Syria and Yemen.

"He (Gaddafi) was also hit in his head," NTC official Abdel Majid Mlegta told Reuters. "There was a lot of firing against his group and he died."

Mlegta told Reuters earlier that Gaddafi, who was in his late 60s, was captured and wounded in both legs at dawn on Thursday as he tried to flee in a convoy which NATO warplanes attacked. He said he had been taken away by an ambulance.

An NTC fighter in Sirte said he had seen Gaddafi shot after he was cornered and captured in a tunnel near a roadway.

The capture of Sirte means Libya's ruling NTC should now begin the task of forging a new democratic system which it had said it would get under way after the city, Gaddafi's hometown rebuilt as a showpiece for his rule, had fallen.

As potentially vast revenues from oil and gas begin to roll in again, Libya's six million people, scattered in towns spread across wide deserts, face a major task in organising a new system of government that can allocate resources across long-competing tribal, ethnic and regional divisions.

Gaddafi, wanted by the International Criminal Court on charges of ordering the killing of civilians, was toppled by rebel forces on Aug. 23, a week short of the 42nd anniversary of the military coup which brought him to power in 1969.

NTC fighters hoisted the red, black and green national flag above a large utilities building in the center of a newly captured Sirte neighbourhood and celebratory gunfire broke out among their ecstatic and relieved comrades.

Hundreds of NTC troops had surrounded the Mediterranean coastal town for weeks in a chaotic struggle that killed and wounded scores of the besieging forces and an unknown number of defenders.

NTC fighters said there were a large number of corpses inside the last redoubts of the Gaddafi troops. It was not immediately possible to verify that information.
Obama deserves little or no credit. He was forced to listen to Republican pressure to cut back on spending. It started with Donald Trump who brought the FACT America should giving financial aid to countries that didn't like America. Thank you NATO and Donald Trump who exposed how useless Obama is.

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October 20th, 2011, 7:43 pm #4

I forgot, you are one of the Hannitized out there, aren't you NUCC?

1) If something Bad happens and a Republican is in power, blame it on a previous Democrat... ANY Democrat, an ill effect lingering from Carter in the 70's, etc, but by NO MEANS should a Republican EVER take Responsibility for their actions perhaps? Yes, that is it! (Bush, the Republican majority 2000-2006 and an economy going from good in 2000 to collapse in 2006 is a PERFECT example of Republicans dodging responsibility). "It's Barrrrrrney Frannnnnk's Fault!" That one Gay Democrat alone did it. Lol. Sure.

2) If something Good happens and a Republican is in power, call him a "Great American". (Whether the event occurs because of his actions or not. Even Happenstance occurrences, give the Republican FULL credit.)

3) If something bad happens and a Democrat is in power, BLAME, BLAME, BLAME the Democrat! (I.E. If the Economy collapses the day after Obama is in power post Bush, make it immediately 100% Obama's fault! Bush has 0 to do with it, lol)

4) If something Good happens and a Democrat is in power, Give the Democrat Zero credit and attribute the good occurrence to: a.) the foundation that Ronald Reagan set up with Reaganomics in the 80's! (If it is an economic good happening) Or: b.) if it is the capture of a Terrorist like Gadhafi, give the credit to NATO, Etc. ANYBODY but Obama!

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Republicans are 100% right, 100% of the time."

That is your philosophy, and Hannity's as well.

Yessir, you are hannitized. A mere partisain puppet with his strings being pulled at will. A blind sheep indeed

Don't be too proud of being a blind sheep, Okay?

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October 20th, 2011, 7:48 pm #5

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October 20th, 2011, 7:48 pm #6

They told us they got bin Laden but there was no proof offered at all -- no DNA evidence, no pictures (although that would have been too gory for public viewing at least it could have been shown to impartial investigators), no body produced because they buried him at sea? I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it just sounds like a big fat lie and cover-up. He once had CIA ties and support -- and he turned out to be the ultimate blowback. We have reaped what we have sown. I would not be surprised at all to find that the CIA put did plastic surgery on bin Laden and put him in their version of a witness protection program.

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--He'd have taken the opportunity to show himself to the world and disgrace the USA as a lying nation. (Not to mention rally all of the terrorists out there who would be emboldened by seeing him still alive).

Bin Laden is Dead. Period.

So is Gadhafi. There are videos out there of him (well, what is left off him). Pretty gory indeed.

He's dead.

I know that Obama has been wrong on many fronts, but on this one, he got the best result, and did it right.

Someone be proper enough to give Obama at least a little credit on this one issue. He got a proven terrorist, at low expense, with a JOINT effort (not the USA going it alone texas cowboy style), and without a SINGLE US Troop killed. That is a bigtime Victory in my eyes. Give Obama some credit, at least on handling this one issue well.

Those who cannot give Obama ANY credit at all, it is Your Weakness, not his. Think about it.

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October 20th, 2011, 7:57 pm #7

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FOX news pulls things to the far right....

MSNBC news pulls things to the far left....

Folks who solely watch one of those networks will divide...

And NEITHER group has a "Nonbiased" view.

Their particular brand of media has warped their opinions to either be very far right, or very far left.

I diversify... BBC world news and countless other sources I pull from. A little bit of fox news as well.



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Pastor Jack, I will tell you what I miss. I miss the days when NBC, CBS, and ABC (Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings) Covered the news in a very NONBIASED fashion every day at 6:30 pm. (Or was it 5:30) on the evening news. Those were the major news sources, and they strived to be nonbiased. They strived to cover BOTH sides of the story.

If you watch FOXnews and the likes of Hannity, you are getting only ONE side of the story. Very LEFT biased. (Rupert Murdoch at the helm controllong what HE wants you to hear, and thus, believe).

If you watch solely MSNBC like some college kids do and the likes of the old Keith Olbermann show, you are again getting only ONE side of the story. Very Right biased.

If you can, Pastor Jack, just realize that you are exposing yourself to only one side of the story if all you watch are FoxNews, WND, etc.





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October 20th, 2011, 8:00 pm #8

--He'd have taken the opportunity to show himself to the world and disgrace the USA as a lying nation. (Not to mention rally all of the terrorists out there who would be emboldened by seeing him still alive).

Bin Laden is Dead. Period.

So is Gadhafi. There are videos out there of him (well, what is left off him). Pretty gory indeed.

He's dead.

I know that Obama has been wrong on many fronts, but on this one, he got the best result, and did it right.

Someone be proper enough to give Obama at least a little credit on this one issue. He got a proven terrorist, at low expense, with a JOINT effort (not the USA going it alone texas cowboy style), and without a SINGLE US Troop killed. That is a bigtime Victory in my eyes. Give Obama some credit, at least on handling this one issue well.

Those who cannot give Obama ANY credit at all, it is Your Weakness, not his. Think about it.
...I don't trust the CIA not to have cut a deal with bin Laden to make him "go away".

Win-win for bin Laden -- he assumes a new identity, lives out his days, no longer has to worry about being the World's Most Wanted Man...AND he gets to be a martyr to the extremists who followed him.

I'm not saying it happened that way; I'm saying the circumstances surrounding his death were very suspect -- "We got him, umm...no DNA, no pictures, no proof...annnnnnnd...we, uh, buried him at sea. Yeah! That's it! Buried him at sea, so we can't produce any proof either. Sorry about that, folks."

With Gadhafi, I'm sure there will be some proof provided. The fact that the Arabic news sources are reporting it gives it more credibility.

And if it is indeed true, yes, I believe our president handled this situation well.

Obama has been ineffective in many ways, but that's the way of Washington politics. We vote for a candidate on the ideas and ideals they present, on what we hope they will accomplish. Then they get into office and get bogged down in bureaucracy, politics, and business as usual, and lose sight of their original vision, the goals and future they had talked about. I like some of what he's done, and dislike some of it, and there are things I wish he'd handle differently. But I am much more comfortable with him in office than Bush, or heaven forbid, McCain and Scary Palin. LOL
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October 20th, 2011, 9:06 pm #9

They told us they got bin Laden but there was no proof offered at all -- no DNA evidence, no pictures (although that would have been too gory for public viewing at least it could have been shown to impartial investigators), no body produced because they buried him at sea? I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it just sounds like a big fat lie and cover-up. He once had CIA ties and support -- and he turned out to be the ultimate blowback. We have reaped what we have sown. I would not be surprised at all to find that the CIA put did plastic surgery on bin Laden and put him in their version of a witness protection program.

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October 20th, 2011, 9:58 pm #10

...I don't trust the CIA not to have cut a deal with bin Laden to make him "go away".

Win-win for bin Laden -- he assumes a new identity, lives out his days, no longer has to worry about being the World's Most Wanted Man...AND he gets to be a martyr to the extremists who followed him.

I'm not saying it happened that way; I'm saying the circumstances surrounding his death were very suspect -- "We got him, umm...no DNA, no pictures, no proof...annnnnnnd...we, uh, buried him at sea. Yeah! That's it! Buried him at sea, so we can't produce any proof either. Sorry about that, folks."

With Gadhafi, I'm sure there will be some proof provided. The fact that the Arabic news sources are reporting it gives it more credibility.

And if it is indeed true, yes, I believe our president handled this situation well.

Obama has been ineffective in many ways, but that's the way of Washington politics. We vote for a candidate on the ideas and ideals they present, on what we hope they will accomplish. Then they get into office and get bogged down in bureaucracy, politics, and business as usual, and lose sight of their original vision, the goals and future they had talked about. I like some of what he's done, and dislike some of it, and there are things I wish he'd handle differently. But I am much more comfortable with him in office than Bush, or heaven forbid, McCain and Scary Palin. LOL
I do agree. Bush's inept leadership on the economic side of things, and overagressive leadership on the war fronts was horrible and very destructive to the country. I would take Obama over a Bush, McCain, or Palin.

I think, however that in the upcoming 2012 elections, I will hold my nose and vote for ... ((Gulp))... Mitt Romney. (grin).

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