Ridgway

Ken
Ken

May 2nd, 2018, 2:40 pm #1

I'm off FB but curious how the new format worked from Carvers who attended. The only press I saw said only 60 carvers showed up and the publics comments on the Vouz FB page (visible to non-FB users) showed The public was very disappointed with few carvers and minimal carving in one spot. But we all know people are quicker to criticize than compliment. I'm curious what the carvers thought? How were sales? How was it to just sell and not carve? I was going to try to roll out for the day to see some Friends but was unable too.
I remember a conversation with Backus back in 07 or 08 how the carver epicenter ebbs and flows . Went from The Big One to The Vouz.....has it shifted?
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May 3rd, 2018, 3:56 pm #2

Darwin Had some valid points, evolve or die off.

Back in the olden days when some of these events were in there infancy there was a very real sense of inclusiveness, it was the wild wild west, figuratively speaking, and I suppose literately with westport being on the edge of the world

Keeping in mind that the events that grew into unbelievable networking centers were mostly put on by big dreamer types with little or no experience in the event planing industry!

A common theme with this type of person spearheading what turns out to big events is that they have a big family that helps out, albeit reluctantly at times {chuckle} and because of that family connection the network of Friends is even larger thus tapping into a valued resource that is overworked and underpaid.

Because of the openness and fairness of allowing anyone attend the event person says yes to way more then is realistic for space and budget which in the end bites you on the ass because you spend more then you should have trying to make everyone happy {which never works}

As these chainsaw carving events spread the word and create more carvers then you can shake a stick at {What industry creates its own competition?} the educated customer develops, over time this discriminating Customer becomes knowledgeable as to what carvings sell for they also will pay more for some carvings because of who made it, these events are simultaneously exposing the "Chainsaw Art" to the world and creating rock star Carvers all while providing a great performance art viewed by the public and in many cases providing economic vitality to a small town.

The "point of diminishing returns", here is a phrase sums it up, never heard of it in the beginning but by god it was beaten into me eventually.


At what point does the balance of attendees versus costs,, 200 carvers tie up a lot of precious resources like , burned out family members, overworked/underpaid workers,, paying for, transporting,placing, clean up, logs/wood, fuel,machine rental,food for workers.

Not mention food, what a nightmare that is from a promoters angle, while wanting to provide great meals the costs can stack up very fast, then people dont show and the waste is sad.

Plus we are not youngsters who can not plow through the work like we once did, especially when dealing with the ungrateful.

But I digress, The Ridgway show was a great success from what I heard, an educated public with much to choose from, carvers prepared with good stuff, the art angle covered with prizes.

The center will shift, maybe chapfest, maybe one of these little shows start to grow into a beautiful Frankenstein

been wanting to post over here, the facebook steals my time now and the discussions over there are hard to follow at times, I like the slower pace over here be back soon...


















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Ken
Ken

May 3rd, 2018, 4:15 pm #3

Knowing who was there everybody knew the level of work wouldn't suffer from fewer carvers. I was wondering more about sales, hoping it was good and to make it back. I tell people Ridgway was where I was "born". I'm sure I'm not the only carver who can say that . FB is a timesuck 😉
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Sean
Sean

May 3rd, 2018, 7:05 pm #4

I'm off FB but curious how the new format worked from Carvers who attended. The only press I saw said only 60 carvers showed up and the publics comments on the Vouz FB page (visible to non-FB users) showed The public was very disappointed with few carvers and minimal carving in one spot. But we all know people are quicker to criticize than compliment. I'm curious what the carvers thought? How were sales? How was it to just sell and not carve? I was going to try to roll out for the day to see some Friends but was unable too.
I remember a conversation with Backus back in 07 or 08 how the carver epicenter ebbs and flows . Went from The Big One to The Vouz.....has it shifted?
Thoughts?
I'm sure the carvers still had a good time but a lot of spectators are leaving bad reviews about the format change on FB, which I think is kinda shi**y. The event is totally free for spectators, doesn't cost 1 cent. And of course they all miss the auction- because you could buy carvings for a fraction of their retail price. So they're pretty much complaining that their new free event isn't as good as the old free event. Go figure. The years I went to the'vous I remember thinking what a nightmare it must be to organize. And I can't imagine the town is really making much, if anything, even keeping the auction proceeds. I've seen really big, amazing carvings sell for like $100 at the auction. It was an AWESOME event for those that got to experience it, but I understand the change.
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joe king
joe king

May 3rd, 2018, 11:18 pm #5


They have long ago distanced themselves from this forum and it's none of my business but i'll throw out a personal opinion anyway. The Boni's have done such an incredible job for so long but i've sensed they have one foot out the door for awhile now and are trying hard to find a way to keep something going. And who knows this might work, above all i wish them all the best in whatever direction they move. I'm also grateful and privileged to have been a part of this especially in the early days, it was pure magic ....!
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