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March 28th, 2018, 4:19 pm #41

What would be a good fit for the Friendly's spot? suggestions!
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March 28th, 2018, 7:14 pm #42

A salt marsh?

More seriously the location is quite awkward for strangers coming off 128. Getting there is not too bad but going anywhere but up up Washington toward downtown is not very easy. We are all so used to the turn into Gloucester Ave or whatever we do habitually to get back that we forget that it is not obvious to someone from out of town. I like the Chinese restaurant there and I liked Friendly's although I have not used it much since my kids left school. I also used to use the bank outside teller there. Years ago I also used the Brooks drug store there but of course was going to Friendly's anyway. Friendlys was smaller then. Do they own the whole plaza? If so, a closed Chinese restaurant, the increase in size with no corresponding increase in customers, and the elimination of the drug store rent may make the thing economically impractical.
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March 28th, 2018, 8:21 pm #43

Damon wrote: A salt marsh?

More seriously the location is quite awkward for strangers coming off 128. Getting there is not too bad but going anywhere but up up Washington toward downtown is not very easy. We are all so used to the turn into Gloucester Ave or whatever we do habitually to get back that we forget that it is not obvious to someone from out of town. I like the Chinese restaurant there and I liked Friendly's although I have not used it much since my kids left school. I also used to use the bank outside teller there. Years ago I also used the Brooks drug store there but of course was going to Friendly's anyway. Friendlys was smaller then. Do they own the whole plaza? If so, a closed Chinese restaurant, the increase in size with no corresponding increase in customers, and the elimination of the drug store rent may make the thing economically impractical.
that's a good question as to who owns the property
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March 28th, 2018, 10:33 pm #44

Some sort of upscale and tasteful buzz emporium might be something to think on !

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March 29th, 2018, 5:02 am #45

Years ago you could take a left when leaving the Friendly's Plaza but I think it was the State who extended the traffic island to prevent that.
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March 29th, 2018, 6:40 am #46

It was so scary I did not do it anyway Dun :)
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March 29th, 2018, 6:41 am #47

That might be a good idea moro.
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March 29th, 2018, 8:53 am #48

tyu12 wrote:
Damon wrote: A salt marsh?

More seriously the location is quite awkward for strangers coming off 128. Getting there is not too bad but going anywhere but up up Washington toward downtown is not very easy. We are all so used to the turn into Gloucester Ave or whatever we do habitually to get back that we forget that it is not obvious to someone from out of town. I like the Chinese restaurant there and I liked Friendly's although I have not used it much since my kids left school. I also used to use the bank outside teller there. Years ago I also used the Brooks drug store there but of course was going to Friendly's anyway. Friendlys was smaller then. Do they own the whole plaza? If so, a closed Chinese restaurant, the increase in size with no corresponding increase in customers, and the elimination of the drug store rent may make the thing economically impractical.
that's a good question as to who owns the property
There are two buildings, with a narrow driveway between them (with the bank drive-in.)
The entrance, the first building, a small part of the parking lot, and the driveway, are owned by the "224 Washington St Trust".
The second building, most of the parking lot, the exit, and the land all the way to the river are owned by "Hong&Hang Realty Trust."  No kidding.  You can look up those things.
Now, the accessor's records don't say who owns the buildings - just the land. Friendly's may own or lease their building.

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March 29th, 2018, 10:03 am #49

the way friendly's quickly removed any signs of them ever being there suggests they may have had a lease that expires on 3/31
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March 29th, 2018, 11:43 am #50

For a local person or group to re-open a place very much in the vein of Friendly's (but with better food and ice-cream!) - I believe it could be successful. Socially, it was one-of-a-kind.
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March 29th, 2018, 12:26 pm #51

Salem Deeds shows a ten-year lease between Friendly's Ice Cream Corp. and Hong & Hang Realty dated 1986 for "a portion of the shopping center known as Cape Ann Plaza" with options to extend the lease for four, 5-year terms.  Those options expired in 2012, the lease was amended to contine to 2015 with another 5 year option to extend the run from 2015 - 2020.

As Leland noted earlier, as recently as the beginning of this month there was an employment posting for an assistant manager.

Local restaurants have closed the same way in recent years with no, or last-minute, notice to employees and customers.
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April 7th, 2018, 10:50 am #52

Has anyone heard anything about what might be going in that spot? a Wendys would be nice but no drive-up window. seen an ad for a golden corral have never been to one but it would be nice to see one there. Or even better a brothers restaurant like the one in Danvers
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April 10th, 2018, 1:10 pm #53

If they put some signage to route outsiders around the loop to get to the other side of the rotary, it would go a long way. One telephone pole is all that needs to move to enable a left turn lane to ease traffic

What is it a two minute ride to get all the way around?



Friendlys was badly run toward the end, too bad.
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Joined: August 11th, 2007, 12:04 am

April 10th, 2018, 1:16 pm #54

sign.jpg 135 bucks
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April 10th, 2018, 3:50 pm #55

There is a For Rent sign on the former Friendly's now.
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April 12th, 2018, 8:57 pm #56

A little off subject but has anyone heard of anything going into the old radio shack location or the former gas station just before shaws on eastern ave
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April 12th, 2018, 9:00 pm #57

tyu12 wrote: A little off subject but has anyone heard of anything going into the old radio shack location or the former gas station just before shaws on eastern ave
OR the old Blockbuster!? Lots of empty storefronts in Gloucester.
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April 12th, 2018, 9:43 pm #58

gator wrote:
tyu12 wrote: A little off subject but has anyone heard of anything going into the old radio shack location or the former gas station just before shaws on eastern ave
OR the old Blockbuster!? Lots of empty storefronts in Gloucester.
Blockbuster I forgot it has been empty for so I forgot all about it and don't even notice it anymore
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April 13th, 2018, 12:08 am #59

tyu12 wrote: A little off subject but has anyone heard of anything going into the old radio shack location or the former gas station just before shaws on eastern ave
When did that gas station close?
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April 13th, 2018, 9:47 am #60

t wrote: sign.jpg135 bucks
if the state is doing it........$10,350
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