Trump's New Year Message

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January 10th, 2018, 5:51 pm #2361

I don’t subscribe to NBC but a news flash appeared on my iPhone so I figured I’d take a bite.

First, Trump congratulated Norway for making the 2% GDP NATO.

Then took credit for winning ISIS.

It was a news conference Trump and Norway’s Prime Minister Erina Solberg.   It turned out to be very much a control of the internet - NBC/YouTube.  When it came to hear Solberg they cut her off and went to an NBC commentator.  

It then continued to a Q&A

The question from the foreign press was “Are we headed to world war?

Trump - no.

PM Solberg said a few things during the Q&A - one was that Norway being #1 in cod fisheries [reminds me to post info on the SEAFOOD EXPO / Gloucester blog showing on Biston]

Trump ended on that Norway is big on HYDRO - [which makes up 95% of Norway’s energy needs.]. Trump said we need more Hydro.

Then after the news conference YouTube offered me an endless stream of videos - trump presidency great again stuff.

I didn’t know whether to clean my phone with brown soap or dip in it Clorox.

In the US we have hydro projects - one we rely on is Canadian - Saint James Bay (Quebec-Hydrro) but at large sacrifice long/short term.

And of course Hoover Damned.
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January 10th, 2018, 6:41 pm #2362

Hydro is used where it makes sense for the most part. Norway is perfect with its mountain ranges and streams. It has been looked at for far downeast Maine but the numbers are dicey and the environmental impact would be large. Otherwise I think the obvious such as Hoover dam have been done. The little local dams that powered mills and such in colonial days  just would not help much with our present population density and power appetite.
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January 11th, 2018, 9:47 am #2363

Meanwhile.... 
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January 11th, 2018, 1:51 pm #2364

Damon wrote: Hydro is used where it makes sense for the most part. Norway is perfect with its mountain ranges and streams. It has been looked at for far downeast Maine but the numbers are dicey and the environmental impact would be large. Otherwise I think the obvious such as Hoover dam have been done. The little local dams that powered mills and such in colonial days  just would not help much with our present population density and power appetite.
I felt that his statement about Norway being almost completely on hydro that his gears were turning ,., I wonder if he knows about the Sierra Club.

I’ve thought that ocean hydro on a large scale is possible and more practical than storing rain water on a mountain.
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January 11th, 2018, 3:01 pm #2365

I am not sure. It depends on the particular circumstances. Velocity of the medium is vital. Force is proportional to velocity squared and power therefore to velocity cubed. That is why a windmill often looks good compared to a tidal watermill despite the advantage of density. A pond high on a mountain sounds good for storing energy though. Given enough height difference you can send the water screaming out through a relatively small turbine. Do it near the bottom to avoid cavitation.  I think the optimal solutions depend strongly on the particular needs and circumstances.
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January 12th, 2018, 8:06 am #2366

So Trump keeping it classy...referring to other countries as "shitholes" ... I never ever thought in my lifetime or any other time that the U.S. would be led by such a person as this.
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January 12th, 2018, 9:15 am #2367

Karly wrote: So Trump keeping it classy...referring to other countries as "shitholes" ... I never ever thought in my lifetime or any other time that the U.S. would be led by such a person as this.
HERE’s A QUOTE FROM TODAY’s GUARDIAN:


“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, after being presented with a proposal to restore protections for immigrants from those countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, the Washington Post reported, citing aides briefed on the meeting.

The president demanded to know why the US would accept immigrants from these countries rather than places like Norway, whose prime minister he had met with the day before.”
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January 12th, 2018, 9:49 am #2368

Now you know he didn't really say that!  😆
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January 13th, 2018, 8:23 pm #2369

The only thing you can count on is that, if he says something
really stupid and nasty, he will tell us the next day that he said
something else entirely. Even if the statement is recorded and
video taped like the one about harassing women he says he
never said it. He gets away with this nonsense.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
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January 13th, 2018, 8:31 pm #2370

First Baptist Church in Gloucester has a new pastor this past year.  I don't go to church for church so I only meet these awesome people through other activities. I had the pleasure to meet Nate Manderson last week when he came to a Cape Ann Local Action meeting.  He is starting a group called Reclaiming Truth...first meeting is January 27 at 6PM at his church.  In case you can see this FB video...

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January 14th, 2018, 8:43 am #2371

Karly wrote: First Baptist Church in Gloucester has a new pastor this past year.  I don't go to church for church so I only meet these awesome people through other activities. I had the pleasure to meet Nate Manderson last week when he came to a Cape Ann Local Action meeting.  He is starting a group called Reclaiming Truth...first meeting is January 27 at 6PM at his church.  In case you can see this FB video...

If I were going to be in town I'd enjoy stopping by on the 27th to meet Nate.  He seems very angry for a man of the cloth but I haven't much use for men of the cloth anyway.  I do admire and share his love of the Haitian people.  I wonder if he's asked the Clintons to give back the millions and millions of relief dollars they stole from them but that might not be a good look in Berekley  Gloucester
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January 14th, 2018, 9:26 am #2372



Welcome to the Trump Hotel in Washington!
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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January 14th, 2018, 10:46 am #2373

There are Yelp reviews of Trump properties that are reflecting the President’s language:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/01/1 ... le-remark/
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January 14th, 2018, 6:48 pm #2374

15CMask wrote:
Karly wrote: First Baptist Church in Gloucester has a new pastor this past year.  I don't go to church for church so I only meet these awesome people through other activities. I had the pleasure to meet Nate Manderson last week when he came to a Cape Ann Local Action meeting.  He is starting a group called Reclaiming Truth...first meeting is January 27 at 6PM at his church.  In case you can see this FB video...

If I were going to be in town I'd enjoy stopping by on the 27th to meet Nate.  He seems very angry for a man of the cloth but I haven't much use for men of the cloth anyway.  I do admire and share his love of the Haitian people.  I wonder if he's asked the Clintons to give back the millions and millions of relief dollars they stole from them but that might not be a good look in Berekley  Gloucester
Hey, Shithole (...or should we call you Whack-Job?) - A year before he became Trump’s campaign “CEO,” Breitbart News chairman Steve Bannon began pushing facile theories of corruption and malfeasance in the book Clinton Cash, written by Peter Schweizer under the aegis of Bannon’s Orwellian-ly named Government Accountability Institute. It was later turned into a film. Both versions of Clinton Cash tell a kaleidoscopic version of Haiti’s post-quake story, remixed and more than occasionally fudged to push the Clintons into the center. Those flawed but relatively measured accounts in turn inspired whack-job theories that have become articles of faith in the anti-Clinton fever swamps, such as the fantasy that Hillary and Bill just straight up stole billions of dollars in post-quake relief money—an impossible claim so un-moored from reality, that even Peter Schweitzer didn’t bother making it.
Haiti—like Whitewater and Benghazi before it (you Whack-Jobs didn't earn much credible traction with those either, didja?!)—has become a synecdoche for all the ills, real and imagined, of the Clintons themselves.

Pull your head out of your ass...or Chump's ass, at least.
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January 15th, 2018, 5:05 am #2375

Trump Speaks At Fourth-Grade Level, Lowest Of Last 15 U.S. Presidents, New Analysis Finds

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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January 15th, 2018, 10:22 am #2376

Lies and The Lying Liars Who Tell Them. (A lesson for American journalists who just lap up the crap)

Normally, the United States ambassador to the Netherlands has a harmonious time, with few controversies, in a safe country that is one of America’s oldest allies. Friendliness has its limits, though, and tenacious Dutch reporters showed Peter Hoekstra, America’s new envoy, that he could be in for a rough ride.
Mr. Hoekstra, a Trump nominee and a former nine-term congressman from Michigan, formally took up his post on Wednesday. Celebratory smiles turned to grimaces, however, when, at what should have been a pro forma news conference, Mr. Hoekstra ran into journalists who wouldn’t take no comment for an answer.
It all began in December, when a Dutch TV reporter asked Mr. Hoekstra about comments he made in 2015. “The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos,” Mr. Hoekstra said at the time. “Chaos in the Netherlands. There are cars being burned. There are politicians that are being burned … and yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands.”

Mr. Hoekstra said the reporter’s claim about the statement was “fake news.” The reporter then showed a video clip of the remarks, prompting Mr. Hoekstra to deny he had just used the term “fake news.” The exchange went viral.
Last week, Dutch reporters had one question they particularly wanted to press Mr. Hoekstra on: Would he admit that his 2015 claims were false, or could he cite an example of a Dutch politician who was burned in recent years?
Looking like a deer in headlights, the ambassador tried to brush off his interrogators. Maybe Mr. Hoekstra had watched President Trump spew lies and hate without apology for so long that he thought he could get away with it, too. Not in The Hague, apparently. The journalists came back repeatedly — “This is the Netherlands, you have to answer questions,” one said.
They invoked a quote from John Adams, America's envoy to the Netherlands, about “honest and wise men.” They were probably being ironic.
The ambassador looked uncomfortable, but it was refreshing to see reporters demanding honesty from an official and not letting up in the face of resistance. It would be good to see that more often on this side of the ocean, especially since the confrontation seemed to have had a salutary effect.
On Friday, Mr. Hoekstra apologized in an interview with a Dutch newspaper: “I’m shocked I said it. It was a misstatement. It was simply wrong.” He added, “I got countries mixed up.”

D'Oh!!
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January 15th, 2018, 12:01 pm #2377

If his name is Peter Hoekstra it is very unlikely that he confused the Netherlands with some other country.
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January 15th, 2018, 12:17 pm #2378

Heck, folks right here on CAO have made that claim (that there are no-go zones where Islamic law has been imposed) about the UK.

I am unaware of any places in the UK that the police cannot go because of sharia law. I suppose they might not go into a mosque without very, very good reason, but entire cities and neighborhoods? 

Does anyone else know of such places outside of Islamic countries? I mean, in the reality-based universe? 
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January 15th, 2018, 1:25 pm #2379

Yes.  Dearborn, Michigan.  Well, according to reports - haven't been there myself, lately.  It just depends on whether you believe what you read.  -- peregrine
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January 15th, 2018, 1:34 pm #2380

peregrine wrote: Yes.  Dearborn, Michigan.  Well, according to reports - haven't been there myself, lately.  It just depends on whether you believe what you read.  -- peregrine
Maybe you need to find some credible sources what you read? Remember: I did specify "in the reality-based universe."

https://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dearborn- ... eamericans

I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

Trump voters will still believe the garbage, though. 
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