Trump's New Year Message

battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

16 Nov 2017, 14:27 #2241

The GOP's continued 'Keep 'Em Stupid' strategy....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/us/p ... 57465&_r=0

<crickets> from CAO's Trumpistas, still.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

17 Nov 2017, 16:24 #2242

Oh, look! getting rid of more of those crippling regulations...winning!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/busi ... d=68757465
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

17 Nov 2017, 16:34 #2243

Representative John Lewis (D-Georgia) on the House passage of the tax bill...sums the depravity of the GOP who voted for this (which was most of them) up pretty well.

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After the passage of the House Republican tax cut bill and three days of the Senate Finance Committee’s consideration of the companion legislation, Rep. Lewis made the following comment:

"In November 1986, the people of Georgia’s Fifth Congressional District elected me to Congress; I remember like yesterday how honored, humbled, and inspired I was to serve and fight for the people.  It was only one month after the completion of a years-long, thoughtful, bipartisan process to reform the United States tax code.  When I took my oath of office 30 years ago, that historic effort was a model to me.  I worked hard to earn an appointment to the House Ways and Means Committee, the oldest standing committee in this body.  This is the Committee where Congress’ core constitutional authority lies and where great, historic legislative solutions were born.

"As I stood on the House Floor this morning, my heart broke.  This tax bill breaches the sacred pact of public service – it hurts so many people and for what end?  For the past two weeks, my office received constant, frantic calls from graduate students, local public servants, seniors, immigrants, veterans, faith leaders, charities, working and middle class families, and average people trying to make ends meet.  They looked at the House bill and they saw so much meanness – so much spite.   They held their breath hoping for sanity in the Senate, but when Senate Finance added yet another attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act, my constituents franticly began losing all hope. 

"It is as if the Republican Members of the 115th Congress forgot about real people and the true impact of our actions.  This bill will decide whether people can keep a roof over their heads, heat in their homes, food on the table, care for their loved ones, continue their studies, and for some – it will mean the difference between life and death. 

"In order to pay for these unprecedented tax cuts – the third in 16 years of war – Congress will trigger sequestration.  Next year, congressional Republicans will be forced to cut practically every single program, which matters to average people. 

"Unfortunately, this is not my opinion; the Congressional Budget Office reported this fact earlier this week.  Yet, still House Republicans are determined to secure a quick political win that will devastate every corner of our country and generations yet unborn.  Today is a sad and dark day, and I pray in my heart of hearts that common-sense and the will to put people before politics will prevail.”
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

17 Nov 2017, 18:24 #2244

Another thing for the local Chump Clowns to defend - The Senate tax Bill apparently removes tax deductions for family medical equipment, but adds one for your private jet.

They can't write off a walker for their surgical recovery, but if Masky or Dianne (et al) have a Gulf Stream V to get to Aspen.... they're covered. Soem more good news for Masky and friends....the new Tesla is apparently really fucking fast, which will be handy if they need to outrun The Poor.

Anyone own a corporation here? Cool beans! You can write off your state and local taxes -- but the rest of us mugs won't be able to, any more.

The 1% are still winning. Bigly!
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William Taylor.e
Joined: 30 Mar 2007, 04:27

18 Nov 2017, 02:27 #2245

What is done can always be undone...excepting the selfishness of the average voter.

I heard on the news tonight that Moore's campaign is now overflowing with contributions. He will not have to grope for cash as it is raining down on his head. Wonders never cease.
You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give..
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

18 Nov 2017, 14:53 #2246

Ah - those good Southern Christian morals exposed for what they truly are eh, William?!
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

18 Nov 2017, 15:44 #2247

battlingignorance wrote: Here's one for the education-haters - Post Graduate students will be screwed under the Rethug/Chump Tax Bill as proposed.
PhD programs function as apprenticeships: the candidates (students) teach classes and conduct research to gain experience, and in exchange - universities waive their tuition fees and provide modest annual stipends to the PhD students(and that's really modest - nobody is doing it for the money) — but at least students don’t have to have a lot of money to do it.
The tax-reform plan could upset that delicate financial equation. Currently, the system taxes only the PhD students' stipends as income. The GOP wants tuition waivers to count as income, too and they plan to tax that “money” as well, potentially almost quadrupling students’ tax bills. Which means that for many prospective and current PhD candidates, higher education could become a financial impossibility.

But that's OK for the Rethugs...the less educated people are, the more likely they are to vote right-wards.
Maybe to get around this the universities could stop charging tuition to grad students so that they don't have to waive it...at least in those programs like the sciences where tuition is rarely paid due to teaching responsibilities and outside research funding.  
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

18 Nov 2017, 15:48 #2248

Alabama conservative "Christians" are incredibly stupid -- too stupid to recognize how evil they are. 

They believe this robocall that some sleazy Moore supporter (Is that a tautology or a redundancy? Aren't all Moore supporters sleazy?):

“Hi, this is Bernie Bernstein. I’m a reporter for The Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5,000 and $7,000,” it said. “We will not be fully investigating these claims. However, we will make a written report.”
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

18 Nov 2017, 21:42 #2249

Here is what the MIT president sent to graduates and retired faculty members:
To the members of the MIT community,
 
The tax legislation now pending in Congress contains several provisions that could have damaging impact on members of our community and the Institute as a whole.
 
Because the situation is complex and fluid, I write to offer our current assessment of which provisions concern us the most and why, and to let you know that MIT is actively following developments in DC and striving to achieve a better outcome. If you share our concern, you can express your views to Congressional leaders.
 
What provisions in the pending tax bills concern us most?
 
Congress is considering several provisions that could place new and potentially very serious financial burdens on students (especially graduate students), remove important incentives for employees seeking further education, and diminish the funds MIT relies on for research, education and financial aid.
 
At a time when officials across the political spectrum stress the value of increasing access to higher education and of building US economic strength through innovation, these measures seem counterproductive. For example:
  • Impact on students
    The House version of the bill would repeal several current tax provisions that help students afford university education, including eliminating the deduction for interest on student loans. It would also treat tuition reductions for graduate students as taxable income. If this change became law, it could have severe consequences for our nearly 7,000 graduate students, perhaps increasing an individual’s income tax by as much as $10,000 a year.

    In arguing against this provision, we take great inspiration from our graduate student leaders, who are conducting intensive phone-banking to make sure Congress understands that, for a graduate student receiving the average stipend of $37,000, a new tax burden on that scale could be devastating. MIT would have to provide further aid to compensate, which would lead to a sharp cut in the size of the student body. This week, our students are working to spread the word in print, on radio and through social media, making clear what’s at stake for them personally and professionally, and arguing that to discourage advanced education is to squander the kind of talent that could bring the nation new knowledge, innovation and economic growth.
  • Impact on faculty and staff
    The House version of the bill would eliminate some current tax provisions that help our employees defray the cost of further education. For example, it would treat tuition waivers for employees and their families as taxable income. Again, a tax that would make higher education more expensive for families is hard to understand. We are also concerned about other provisions that would put a drag on innovation.
  • Impact on the Institute
    Both the House and the Senate versions of the bill would impose a tax on the net investment income generated by the Institute’s endowment. MIT’s endowment income is a primary source of funds for the work central to our mission: supporting research (including by covering the unreimbursed indirect costs of federal grants) and advancing education, especially by providing the financial aid that keeps an MIT education affordable to students of modest means, and by pioneering digital pathways to make higher education accessible to all. Taxing endowment earnings will directly reduce our ability to fund MIT’s core purpose.
How is MIT taking action?
 
Several MIT offices – including MIT’s Washington office, the Office of the Vice President for Finance, the Office of the General Counsel and the Chancellor’s office, which is working with the graduate student community – have been collaborating to assess the implications of the bill and to express our concerns strategically in DC. In addition, MIT is working closely with the Association of American Universities and other university groups, which have been publicly outspoken and very active in building Congressional opposition to these damaging tax proposals.
 
What happens next? 
This week, the House will vote on its version of the bill, and the Senate will consider its version in the Senate Finance Committee. A final bill will not be ready for a vote for at least several more weeks.
 
In the meantime, we are intently focused on persuading Congress to remove provisions that would derail our students’ education, damage our ability to prepare these exceptionally talented young people, thwart their scientific and technical contributions, and discourage the research and innovation the nation depends on.
 
Sincerely,
 
L. Rafael Reif
 
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

18 Nov 2017, 22:01 #2250

That's one of them thar East-coast elitist places, right?

Well, lemme tell ya, son -- we REAL Americans in what you elitists call "flyover country" don't like you east-coast elitists and anything you say is just FAKE NEWS. 
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

18 Nov 2017, 22:16 #2251

You are absolutely correct FC. I can not imagine what I was thinking.
We must remove our support for institutions like MIT and focus on
Making America Great Again.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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drinkycrow
Joined: 10 May 2007, 13:48

18 Nov 2017, 23:46 #2252

Fortune Cookie wrote: Alabama conservative "Christians" are incredibly stupid -- too stupid to recognize how evil they are. 

They believe this robocall that some sleazy Moore supporter (Is that a tautology or a redundancy? Aren't all Moore supporters sleazy?):

“Hi, this is Bernie Bernstein. I’m a reporter for The Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5,000 and $7,000,” it said. “We will not be fully investigating these claims. However, we will make a written report.”
All those MSM elitists are Jews, right? I guess Jewey Jewface would have been too obvious, but then again, maybe not to these idiots.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

19 Nov 2017, 15:20 #2253

If it was an English robo-call, it would have been Jewey McJewface.

Y'All know Judge Roy has a chain of BBQ places?  Make America Grate Again.
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DM3194
Joined: 07 Feb 2008, 22:54

19 Nov 2017, 23:48 #2254

President Trump vs Lavar Ball .... this should be good.
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

25 Nov 2017, 12:17 #2255

What does Trump do best? He lies at least 5.5 times a day and has insulted 389 people, places and things on Twitter so far in his young presidency. Meanwhile, his hotels and resorts are all suffering big losses because people don't want to be associated with the Trump name. He has the emotional maturity of a three-year-old and the social graces of a drunken baboon, but he's still president until enough of us get sick of his childish, destructive antics and give him the bum's rush...
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

25 Nov 2017, 12:26 #2256

You prefer Pence Brain? Out of the frying pan into the fire.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

25 Nov 2017, 13:23 #2257

Damon, that eventuality makes me rather pensive, but I doubt most Americans will put up with much nonsense from him, either.
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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DM3194
Joined: 07 Feb 2008, 22:54

25 Nov 2017, 14:51 #2258

"rather pensive"  Good one, brainfix!
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I would prefer Mike Pence to Donald Trump.
Kim Jung Un maybe, too.
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

25 Nov 2017, 23:28 #2259

Pence adds a streak of religious nuttiness to his Trumpistic "conservative" behavior. I think he is more dangerous because he looks and acts sort of sanely but once you really watch and listen, he is at least as nutty as Trump. Typical was going to the opening of a football game at great cost and with great pomp only to walk out as he obviously planned because he disapproved of the kneeling show. This guy is devout jerk.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

28 Nov 2017, 22:34 #2260

What he (Damon) said.

We're bollocksed, either way.
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