Trump's New Year Message

Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

29 Oct 2017, 23:54 #2161

Damon wrote: Thanks Cathy !
I should have realized Tesla would be right on it.
By the way the Spanish article at the bottom of that link is worth struggling through even if your Spanish is rusty. It says far more than the part above it.
That gesture alone will bring people back. Good marketing too. I wonder if there's a list for a Solar Tesla.

One brother may be going to Peurto Rico USA after he finishes FEMA/SBA relief in Florida. Although his next stop might be as an aftermath to Califonia forest fires.

My youngest brother was in Mexico City during the quake. He thought it was over for him.
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

31 Oct 2017, 00:34 #2162

Trump probably not too happy tonight.  Is he tweeting or is someone sitting on his hands...I'm not big on Twitter.
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

31 Oct 2017, 00:43 #2163

"I told you so" doesn't quite cover for the utter absurdity, outlandish weirdness and outright disgust of this presidency. The worst ever is too good for Trump.
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

31 Oct 2017, 00:50 #2164

He already knew Manafort was going to be indicted and I suspect he already had tweets in mind for his indictment. I suspect he also knew the Gates indictment was likely. 

The one I bet he's worried about is the relatively unknown Papadopoulos. He quietly pled guilty weeks ago and has been cooperating ever since. Probably avoiding more serious charges. 

I expect several days of irrational and childish tweets from the Offal Office. 

Drain the swamp, indeed. He filled it instead and then converted it to a cesspool. 
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

31 Oct 2017, 01:09 #2165

Some of our right-wing friends here may harbor some fear and loathing of the man Trump sells himself to be at this point. They can't yet admit their duplicity, unfortunately. Remember how they railed against Obama, who was a deeply flawed, yet far superior president?
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

31 Oct 2017, 01:10 #2166

I do, indeed. 
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

31 Oct 2017, 03:49 #2167

The single, best word for Trump?

Mercurial
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

31 Oct 2017, 03:54 #2168

I prefer "sleazy" or maybe just "treasonous". 
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

31 Oct 2017, 04:01 #2169

Mercury rules Gemini, that's why I said that. JFK was a Gemini, too. But he had that archetypal mojo that Trump will never possess.
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

31 Oct 2017, 15:39 #2170

Hey, John Kelly, you ignorant enabling asshole! We thought for a moment you might rise above the WH swamp. But, nooooo.  If you don't know that the Civil War was fought over slavery, read the actual Declarations of secession.
They made it clear. The jury's not out on this.

Just ask 1860 Mississippi!:
"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

Any thoughts from the winning CAO Trumpistas on this?
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

31 Oct 2017, 15:53 #2171

The Southern states and the racist community have been attempting to rewrite history ever since reconstruction. 

Unfortunately for them, they left a written record of their real reasons for secession. 

Have you ever read the rationale provided by SC when it seceded? Much the same as that of Mississippi. 
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

31 Oct 2017, 16:10 #2172

No doubt we'll be hearing soon from Sarah Huckster-Sanders that World War II was caused by a lack of compromise between Adolf Hitler and European Jews.
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

31 Oct 2017, 16:44 #2173

These paragraphs are interesting, from the SC declaration of secession:

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection. 

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States. 
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William Taylor.e
Joined: 30 Mar 2007, 04:27

31 Oct 2017, 17:29 #2174

brainfix wrote: Some of our right-wing friends here may harbor some fear and loathing of the man Trump sells himself to be at this point. They can't yet admit their duplicity, unfortunately. Remember how they railed against Obama, who was a deeply flawed, yet far superior president?
I just can't say Obama was deeply flawed. I think history will remember him as pretty damn good.
You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give..
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brainfix
Joined: 04 Jun 2006, 00:10

01 Nov 2017, 01:24 #2175

William Taylor.e wrote:
brainfix wrote: Some of our right-wing friends here may harbor some fear and loathing of the man Trump sells himself to be at this point. They can't yet admit their duplicity, unfortunately. Remember how they railed against Obama, who was a deeply flawed, yet far superior president?
I just can't say Obama was deeply flawed. I think history will remember him as pretty damn good.
Who wins the Nobel Peace Prize then proceeds to annihilate countless civilians in drone raids? No, collateral damage doesn't apply...

Not to mention many opportunities he had to heal deep divisions in our society, which were obviously not healed.
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." - Christopher Hitchens
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

01 Nov 2017, 03:02 #2176

The number of civilians killed by drone attacks stands at 117.

I wonder if Joint STARS helped or DID help directing drone strikes.  JS is an airborne radar that transmits images to ground stations - I presume to drone pilots stationed on the ground.

The JS system could show enemy movement and in a different mode it could be programmed to detect shape/size example: a school bus from a tank painted like a school bus. The reach of a JS plane was hundreds of miles from its subject in ANY direction.

The current airframe is a 707 cargo aircraft but plans are for a smaller corporate/cargo jet.

Things have changed - when I was on the JS Program the 1990 computer technology was based on the alpha chip by DIGITAL Corp.  even then, the resolution of the under fuselage 23 foot long radar was the driver

The 117 lives lost were those "confirmed

At least Obama didn't kill Joint STARS - a 30 year program.

http://www.newsweek.com/strikes-during- ... ans-545080
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

01 Nov 2017, 03:22 #2177

Update -

This is the first I saw this - just posted last month. Promo for E-11 Joint STARS (old program designation was E-8C)

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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

01 Nov 2017, 13:22 #2178

brainfix wrote: Who wins the Nobel Peace Prize then proceeds to annihilate countless civilians in drone raids? No, collateral damage doesn't apply...

Not to mention many opportunities he had to heal deep divisions in our society, which were obviously not healed.
I don't think anyone can put blame on him for the Nobel Prize - I think even his strongest supporters thought it a poorly-thought out move - especially so early in his term.  It is de rigeur amongst the "left" to make drones the monster under the bed of modern warfare...but the alternative always seemed to cause far more extensive damage to warriors and civilians alike...let alone the greater exposure to risk of US personnel. Do you disagree?

As for your second thought - care to expand?
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

01 Nov 2017, 14:04 #2179

Chump's latest tweet: "I have just asked Homeland Security to step up our already extreme vetting program. Being politically correct is fine, but not for this!"

So - a white man shoots 500 people? Nothing.

139 people die every day all across the US of an overdose? Zero money toward combating it - but hey, if everyone would just say NO...

Nazis march with long guns in the streets during daylight, chanting "Blood and soil", and run over an innocent woman? Chump says some of them are "fine people".

At least 911 (dark-skinned) Americans have died in Puerto Rico from his government's neglect, while one of his close cabinet members tries to get his buddy's 2-person company in via a no-bid arrangement to "fix" the power system. Nice.

But now?! Now we're going to activate the 'double secret squirrel super duper extreme vetting machine'?!?!
(And you know that's just some made-up shit a General told him, just to shut him the fuck up.)
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

01 Nov 2017, 18:28 #2180

File under - 'Draining the Swamp....IN to the Administration':
The new rules for the EPA implemented by Scott Pruitt would effectively shut out many academic scientists who rely on federal funding, replacing them with researchers from industry.

Oh, joy!  More winning!

And over to the defense......? Anything?
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