Trump's New Year Message

Joined: December 22nd, 2007, 10:06 pm

September 24th, 2017, 12:50 pm #2061

I'd rather put this on the Trump thread than the NFL thread ...
The BBC website was showing Trump's rant against NFL players, but they added the well-known "Warning - this program may contain language that some people may find offensive."  First time ever, for a speech by the president of the US ?  or by any world leader speaking English ?

Good job.  Any Trump speech is offensive to many people, which is why I rarely watch or listen.  I read the editorials which explain what he said.
Maybe the BBC was being tongue-in-cheek ?

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September 24th, 2017, 1:00 pm #2062

I think if they know that the  phrase "sons of bitches" is
coming up, the warning would be a normal thing to do.

Strange times....strange President. Lots of "firsts."

Get the children out of the room....the Commander-in-Chief is about to speak!
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September 24th, 2017, 1:02 pm #2063

His Alabama speech was vulgar.
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September 24th, 2017, 1:50 pm #2064

DM3194 wrote: His Alabama speech was vulgar.
THE GUARDIAN HAD THIS TO SAY;
"Donald Trump was the subject of startlingly strong abuse from major sports stars on Saturday, after he criticised NFL players protesting against racial injustice and withdrew an invitation for the NBA-champion Golden State Warriors to visit the White House, breaking a tradition dating back to the Reagan years.

Trump blasts NFL anthem protesters: 'Get that son of a bitch off the field'
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The Cleveland Cavaliers star forward LeBron James called the president a “bum” while the Buffalo Bills running back LeSEAN McCOY went further, calling Trump an “ASSHOLE”. Even NFL commissioner Roger Goodell pwas critical, saying in a statement: “Divisive comments like [Trump’s] demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL.”"
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September 26th, 2017, 8:50 am #2065

Hey Trumpistas!  I came looking for your comments about the news of Chump's staff using private email accounts to do government business!  But...nothing! Perhaps Breitbart hasn't written about it yet - so let me just share for those of you living in Dumbfuckistan that at least six of his closest advisers have used private email addresses to discuss White House business. Already.

Pretty-Boy Kushner used a private email account to send or receive about 100 work-related emails during the administration’s first seven months. Former chief White House strategist Stephen Bannon and former Chief of Staff (and obvious anagram...h/t Charles Pierce) Reince Priebus, also occasionally used private email addresses. There are others.

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September 26th, 2017, 12:09 pm #2066

Return the swamp.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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September 26th, 2017, 12:11 pm #2067

Lock'em up.
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September 27th, 2017, 8:26 am #2068

both sides do it.  some get caught and some don't.    I guess it cancels out Hilliary's use of the same thing.
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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September 27th, 2017, 8:54 am #2069

One difference is that when Hillary did it, it was legal. But since then, the Federal Records Act was amended (in 2014, AFTER Hillary had left the State Department) to require any official emails sent/received using a private account to be transferred to government servers within 20 days. 

The only thing that has not changed is that the Repiglicans are the same old sleazy hypocrites they've always been. 

Lock them up! 
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September 27th, 2017, 9:49 am #2070

FC pretty much nails the facts of it all.  GOP-sters (and the Trump family, in particular) are consistently gross hypocrites and inveterate liars - with only one thing in mind. Themselves....because it is absolutely not you nor I they want to help.
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September 27th, 2017, 6:44 pm #2071

What do you all predict for the 2018 midterms? 
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September 27th, 2017, 6:51 pm #2072

I think Trump may be impeached before then which could change the dynamics somewhat but unless something changes with the GOP I would say they are going to lose a lot of seats in 2018.  I will be living in New Hampshire for the 2020 election and am already dreaming about it.  I just hope the left can find a candidate that is truly democratic and can unite the left (and by left I mean Democrats, Green, lefty Independents like me, and others.)
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September 27th, 2017, 7:19 pm #2073

There is no way Trump is going to be impeached (let alone convicted.)  I wish people would stop talking about it as if it might happen.
A majority of the House is needed.
First, the GOP brass must be convinced that Trump is a liability. Then, they must convince enough GOP House members to impeach. The resulting fight will split the GOP House right down the middle.  The Dems will help to impeach, but they're not going to help solve what is essentially a GOP internal problem.  They're just sitting by enjoying themselves.
And even if he were impeached, every single GOP rep who voted to impeach would have a right-wing primary challenger.  The result would be a disaster,  Of course, the GOP deserves it - they are split, and they should feel the results.  But the GOP top will not allow such a fight.

Now, if the Democrats win the House in 2018, they might well start  an impeachment process.   Not sure it would be a good idea.
 
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September 27th, 2017, 7:26 pm #2074

It is funny.  I used to have great discussions with an old-fashioned conservative for whom I had great respect.  We actually influenced each other's opinions...he eventually changed parties from GOP to Unenrolled and he made me think harder about the appropriate role of government and free speech. Needless to say, we very often disagreed.  

I usually started my responses with  "In my opinion."  He told me that was unnecessary because it was implied.  However I told him I did it to show some humility.

Don't know what made me just remember that ;-)
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September 27th, 2017, 7:50 pm #2075

Gee, Karly, that's about the nicest way I can think of saying that you disagree with me.  Thank you.
But I agree with your friend that the IMHO is often implied in a forum as CAO.  And I should point out that many CAOers use much stronger language to state what is after all just their opinion.  Some even find it necessary to SAY SO OUT LOUD. You'll never see me shout.
On the issue of impeachment, I stand by MNSHO.

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September 27th, 2017, 7:54 pm #2076

peregrine...perfect! :-)
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September 27th, 2017, 10:37 pm #2077

peregrine wrote: Gee, Karly, that's about the nicest way I can think of saying that you disagree with me.  Thank you.
But I agree with your friend that the IMHO is often implied in a forum as CAO.  And I should point out that many CAOers use much stronger language to state what is after all just their opinion.  Some even find it necessary to SAY SO OUT LOUD. You'll never see me shout.
On the issue of impeachment, I stand by MNSHO.

-- peregrine
C'est MOI?????? OMD!

IMVSHO 11/12/17

NO PARDON!!!!!!!
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September 27th, 2017, 10:48 pm #2078

peregrine wrote: There is no way Trump is going to be impeached (let alone convicted.)  I wish people would stop talking about it as if it might happen.
A majority of the House is needed.
First, the GOP brass must be convinced that Trump is a liability. Then, they must convince enough GOP House members to impeach. The resulting fight will split the GOP House right down the middle.  The Dems will help to impeach, but they're not going to help solve what is essentially a GOP internal problem.  They're just sitting by enjoying themselves.
And even if he were impeached, every single GOP rep who voted to impeach would have a right-wing primary challenger.  The result would be a disaster,  Of course, the GOP deserves it - they are split, and they should feel the results.  But the GOP top will not allow such a fight.

Now, if the Democrats win the House in 2018, they might well start  an impeachment process.   Not sure it would be a good idea.
 
peregrine
It sounds like you're opining that Republicans of today, unlike those of the past, always put party before country. 

I have no disagreement with that. 

They have not been patriotic Americans since about 1980. 
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September 28th, 2017, 8:26 am #2079

peregrine wrote: There is no way Trump is going to be impeached (let alone convicted.)  I wish people would stop talking about it as if it might happen.
A majority of the House is needed.
First, the GOP brass must be convinced that Trump is a liability. Then, they must convince enough GOP House members to impeach. The resulting fight will split the GOP House right down the middle.  The Dems will help to impeach, but they're not going to help solve what is essentially a GOP internal problem.  They're just sitting by enjoying themselves.
And even if he were impeached, every single GOP rep who voted to impeach would have a right-wing primary challenger.  The result would be a disaster,  Of course, the GOP deserves it - they are split, and they should feel the results.  But the GOP top will not allow such a fight.

Now, if the Democrats win the House in 2018, they might well start  an impeachment process.   Not sure it would be a good idea.
 
peregrine
I can find nothing to disagree with, here.
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September 28th, 2017, 8:33 am #2080

Trump backed candidate in Alabama (?) did not win.  
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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