Rotary Improvements?

Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

23 Nov 2017, 00:26 #21

I remember driving in Connecticut, years ago, and learning then that the rule for the roundabout/rotary/traffic circle that I was entering gave vehicles entering the rotary the right of way.  I just looked up Connecticut and found this:

"Modern roundabouts follow the "yield-at-entry" rule in which approaching vehicles must wait for a gap in the circulating flow before entering the circle. Many of the old traffic circles in the United States required circulating vehicles to grant the right of way to entering vehicles though few, if any, of these type circles exist in Connecticut. Some traffic circles may also use stop signs or signals to control vehicle entry."

http://www.ct.gov/dot/cwp/view.asp?a=4109&q=468558

From Wikipedia's page for "Traffic Circles:"

"Right-of-way: Whether entering or circling vehicles have the right of way. The New Jersey Driver's Manual recommends that, in the absence of flow control signs, traffic yields based on "historically established traffic flow patterns",[8] and there are no set rules.[9] In New England,[10] Washington, D.C. and New York State,[11] entering traffic yields, as is the norm in virtually all countries outside of the U.S."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_circle

The whole roundabout/rotary/traffic circle distinctions make my head hurt.
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

23 Nov 2017, 01:10 #22

battlingignorance wrote:
Leland33 wrote:
Thong Extractor wrote: How about no crossing there at all. Make them walk up Poplar and down Maplewood.
I also think this is the best solution.  Maplewood has new sidewalks.  I think it’s the best route to get to stores and the heart of downtown from Patriots and AGH area.

Some states you yield IF IN the rotary AND NOT entering.
Hmmm - I've drive a whole lotta miles across this country over the years, and have never seen that. Where are they?

Poland?
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

23 Nov 2017, 01:27 #23

battlingignorance wrote:
Leland33 wrote:
Thong Extractor wrote: How about no crossing there at all. Make them walk up Poplar and down Maplewood.
I also think this is the best solution.  Maplewood has new sidewalks.  I think it’s the best route to get to stores and the heart of downtown from Patriots and AGH area.

Some states you yield IF IN the rotary AND NOT entering.
Hmmm - I've drive a whole lotta miles across this country over the years, and have never seen that. Where are they?
Poland?
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

23 Nov 2017, 02:55 #24

2563 miles not a single plastic bag in a tree.

The logic is kinda dumb but follows the right away rule - if in a rotary the car on your right has right if way.

Cathy has it right different.

At dinner now at “ Paco Mom’s” hot rotary discussion. My sister remembers in Mass there was a pamphlet - decades ago - to drivers when the rules changed for rotary right of way.

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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

23 Nov 2017, 03:27 #25

battlingignorance wrote:
Leland33 wrote:
Thong Extractor wrote: How about no crossing there at all. Make them walk up Poplar and down Maplewood.
I also think this is the best solution.  Maplewood has new sidewalks.  I think it’s the best route to get to stores and the heart of downtown from Patriots and AGH area.

Some states you yield IF IN the rotary AND NOT entering.
Hmmm - I've drive a whole lotta miles across this country over the years, and have never seen that. Where are they?
There are places where that is the rule, but they're very much in the minority. 

I don't remember where, but I did encounter one and was baffled. 

It makes no sense, and the DOT should develop a nationwide standard. (Last time I looked, they had a recommendation, but there was no standard. Frankly, I think their recommendation should be revised, too, but that's a different argument.)
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Dun Fudgin
Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 03:54

23 Nov 2017, 11:14 #26

t wrote: Signage up the highway would be the number one improvement for traffic, informing people where to be 1/2 mile back
I would vote for stop signs on all the entrances, much as I enjoy the late night empty slalom it would reinforce the rotary right of way
At one point I counted 21 signs from the end of APA Bridge to the rotary itself! I would call that "sensory overload".
If I had the call I'd have just two signs....." SLOW entering rotary" and "Yield to rotary traffic".
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

23 Nov 2017, 13:19 #27

...and a large 'which lane to take' sign.
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

23 Nov 2017, 14:20 #28

Thong Extractor wrote: How about no crossing there at all. Make them walk up Poplar and down Maplewood.
and how would you "make" them walk????  a wall, a fence????      then they would just walk on the side of the roadway.
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

23 Nov 2017, 14:26 #29

when foxwoods first opened, the rotary on the way there was the opposite of what it is now.  I think connecticut changed it because all the people from mass were getting in accidents.

and all those signs before the rotary and nothing telling you what exit it is and which end of washington street is what.    one sign that tells you washington street is right when it goes both ways.  
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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