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gator wrote:

stanb wrote: Whats next??  Legalized prostitution?  Turn Cape Anne into Amsterdam...Should be interesting to see how this un folds over next 20 years.

Where do you think would be a good place for the Red Light District in Gloucester?

Gloucester???  Hey I think this should be discussed at Rockport Town meeting.  After all you don't get booze or pot shops...you have to have something!

I am thinking Bear Skin Neck ..  

Cathy (Admin) wrote: Since you asked so nicely ... 

This is what the at-large candidates had to say about pot shops at the November 1, 2017 debate.  To be fair, it was November - well before the State completed their end of the regulation process and some may have changed their positions since then.  I'm sure we'll find out where all councilors currently stand on the issue in the near future.

The responses to the pot shop question start about 28:50:

Thank you. (You'll have to excuse my tone...I am just exasperated and angry at the old-time reactionaries who believe they know better than us mere mortals.)

And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

stanb wrote: I am thinking Bear Skin Neck ..  

I agree.There's nothing more I would like than to ruffle the feathers of my fellow Rockportians!
Seriously though, what are you so afraid of? If you've never been to a state where it is legal, the dispensaries are much more nondescript than liquor stores. We also haven't seen any of the horrible consequences that the opponents were worried about. And in an unexpected twist, states where marijuana is legal are seeing a drop in opiod overdoses/deaths.

battlingignorance wrote: And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

Rockports Police Chief claims he will need to hire 2 extra officers. I call BS.

"Among others pushing for a ballot vote and a retail sales ban was police Chief John Horvath. He said he could foresee having to hire two officers to handle pot-related issues and additional related calls for reports such as partying noise complaints and driving stops. He estimated the cost at $176,000."

gator wrote:

battlingignorance wrote: And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

Rockports Police Chief claims he will need to hire 2 extra officers. I call BS.

"Among others pushing for a ballot vote and a retail sales ban was police Chief John Horvath. He said he could foresee having to hire two officers to handle pot-related issues and additional related calls for reports such as partying noise complaints and driving stops. He estimated the cost at $176,000."

The Rockport Police Chief is simply proving how stupidly out-of-touch with the world, he is. It is one thing for him not to like it, but what he is saying/claiming is embarrassing, frankly.

stanb wrote: Whats next??  Legalized prostitution?  Turn Cape Anne into Amsterdam...Should be interesting to see how this un folds over next 20 years.

You would finally get some!

battlingignorance wrote: And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

Yeah, its just a grab into the money (pot), pun intended.

gator wrote:

battlingignorance wrote: And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

Rockports Police Chief claims he will need to hire 2 extra officers. I call BS.

LOL. They get noise complaints during the 4th of July parade.

Karly wrote: I tend to agree with the Mayor in her outline here ... have the 3 shops.  She also noted that while she doesn't personally support the issue, this mandate came from the people. 

She just cant take a solid stand on much of anything. If successful she will take the credit. But if it fails, its the "peoples" fault. Its up to her and the city to make this successful! 

Sale alert!

Sunny's is moving next to the tattoo shop, the one across the street from Sclafanis.

So which Councilor is running around providing constituents with "Only One!" ("The Russians are coming!")-type scripts for calling or writing in to City Hall with?

Bueller? Anyone?

Pathetic.

battlingignorance wrote: So which Councilor is running around providing constituents with "Only One!" ("The Russians are coming!")-type scripts for calling or writing in to City Hall with?

Bueller? Anyone?

Pathetic.

yes, who is it??

battlingignorance wrote: And the whole claim/idea that it will take $15,000 to "train" each law enforcement officer to know who is high or not, is utter crap. It's as if they have never dealt with this issue before....hilarious!

There should be an upper age limit for public officials.  Lundberg and Holmgren gave the least mealy-mouthed, rational responses. Bravo/Brava. (Whynott? - WHY???!?!?!)

To train someone to be a DRE (Drug Recognition officer) it is a very long, intensive program.  Everything has to be perfect for a case to stand up in court. I'm not talking about just a regular person having an accident being stoned, but a very bad or fatal accident where you would want to see someone found guilty.  (Think of them injuring one of your family) Bear in mind that you'd have to pay OT to anyone who is being trained and would probably need at least one on every shift and maybe a fourth to cover vacations or time off.   To win in court (as with DWI) you can't just go in and say I thought he was drunk (or high).  Defense lawyers strongly attack any and all training you may have had as well as your experience using that training just to cloud a jury's mind. The real court system isn't like the TV shows you watch and unless you've seen it or been in it first hand, you have no idea of what goes on. 

NightStalker wrote:

battlingignorance wrote: So which Councilor is running around providing constituents with "Only One!" ("The Russians are coming!")-type scripts for calling or writing in to City Hall with?

Bueller? Anyone?

Pathetic.

yes, who is it??

I'm not sure to whom you are referring, but Councilor Gilman did introduce a Councilor Order to place a question a ballot for a special election asking if the City should adopt an ordinance to limit the number of non-medical marijuana retailers to one within the City of Gloucester and she does feel quite strongly about the one retailer limit.

https://www.facebook.com/ValGilmanWard4/

The Order, I believe, will be taken up at the next O&A meeting for a recommendation to the full council.  I checked the City calendar and it looks like the next O&A is April 30.

Why give one  non-medical marijuana retailer a monopoly in the city.

I wonder how the city is going to regulate this?

Hmm...Maybe I should have put in an offer for that old claw machine when Friendly's shut down.