Pot Watch

Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

06 Sep 2017, 22:01 #361

In the Council Packet for the August 22 meeting, there is a 25 page report on the Recreational Marijuana Meetings - a general summary and a summary from each meeting.  Starts on page 3:

http://gloucester-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ ... /Item/7826


Moratorium until 12/31/2018???

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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

06 Sep 2017, 22:13 #362

Yeah...I don't see any undecideds in there...and there were some but I don't think they collected that data in all the meetings.  Also 95 people, some at multiple meetings?  Not representative of the voters.  The one I went to was very skewed toward those who were obviously (from their comments) strongly against the legalization in the first place and fearful of any retail.  

There is a public hearing on this subject this month.  If anyone doesn't want a moratorium,  you should go...because that is what will happen unless people object (and it will happen without a ballot question most likely.)  You can also write or call your counselors, mayor, jim destino, etc.  
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Dun Fudgin
Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 03:54

06 Sep 2017, 22:36 #363

Karly wrote: Yeah...I don't see any undecideds in there...and there were some but I don't think they collected that data in all the meetings.  Also 95 people, some at multiple meetings?  Not representative of the voters.  The one I went to was very skewed toward those who were obviously (from their comments) strongly against the legalization in the first place and fearful of any retail.  

There is a public hearing on this subject this month.  If anyone doesn't want a moratorium,  you should go...because that is what will happen unless people object (and it will happen without a ballot question most likely.)  You can also write or call your counselors, mayor, jim destino, etc.  
Technically I agree that the consensus may be skewed with the same people going to several meetings but they were all opened to the public. My bet is many feel adding pot shops in Gloucester is not a  good idea for many reasons. Perhaps in the future the question should be revisited after real data of the effects come in from around the state.
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

06 Sep 2017, 22:39 #364

I woulda gone but I was too baked to get motivated. 
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gator
Joined: 27 Apr 2011, 20:12

06 Sep 2017, 23:30 #365

Fortune Cookie wrote: I woulda gone but I was too baked to get motivated. 
Always label those jars. Hate it when I get my indicas and sativas mixed up!
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

07 Sep 2017, 03:05 #366

True, dat. 
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

07 Sep 2017, 20:08 #367

hopefully, where this IS an election year, the council will decide this before the election but it looks like they won't if it's going to a vote.   keeps their hands clean and 2 years from November no one remembers anything.
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

07 Sep 2017, 20:27 #368

I will never forget the sneaky meeting of the seven
senators over the Christmas break or our state rep's
vote undermining the vote of the people. My confidence
in them evaporated totally.
I do not care much what the city does, although I would
prefer they did it by referendum rather than assuming
we want whatever the city councilors want. If they
take action to undermine the statewide referendum vote,
which passed by a large majority of Gloucester  voters,
I will object.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

07 Sep 2017, 22:09 #369

That is my issue with it too.  That is why I attended a meeting. I haven't tried the stuff since I was a teen but I think our criminal justice system has used the War on Drugs to incarcerate young black men en masse so I was very happy to support passage of the ballot question and want to see it carried out as intended.

Regarding stores, I think a store in the industrial park would be a good thing.  If there isn't going to be one or is going to be a long moratorium (the first step) then it should be via vote, not council decision. However it was clear in the meeting I attended that if they don't hear otherwise at the public hearing this month, it will not likely go on the ballot and they will just make it a moratorium. I'm not comfortable with that.  I want it going to a vote and then whatever is decided in the vote is fine with me.  
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

08 Sep 2017, 09:55 #370

I don't really understand why a cannabis store (medical or otherwise) has to be so embarrassing that it must be hidden away up in the industrial park. I've mentioned this before, but in Brookline (HULLO?!?! BROOKLINE!) the medical cannabis store is in the old Brookline Bank building (a beauty in its own right) right in the heart of BrooklIne Village. You'd never know, unless you knew; a uniformed guard is at the door checking ID and prescription cards. Adults go in and out all the time - it is all clean, and normal. All quite proper.
Or maybe we should seek another hair salon, nail salon, bank, or shitty tourist shop to fill the vacant stores downtown. Hey - how about up at Gloucester Crossing...people keep bitching about the vacant places up there?
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

08 Sep 2017, 12:17 #371

i agree, BI. I originally pictured them located around town much like the liquor stores. The people who ran the hearings said that no one wants them in their backyard. That may well not be true but they are apparently hearing mostly from people that don't want them in the first place. If we get any at all, the first will likely be in an industrial park. When people see no problem, maybe there will be others.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

08 Sep 2017, 12:22 #372

Those meetings are essentially pre-determined circle jerks.
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

08 Sep 2017, 12:49 #373

Get Deo Braga to invest. All siting problems will vanish overnight. 
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

08 Sep 2017, 19:19 #374

what can cause more issues and a drain on city services????

a wet shelter or a pot shop?
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

08 Sep 2017, 23:07 #375

Good point NightStalker.
I would consider this whole issue just plain silly if it did not demonstrate
the tendency of our leaders to consider themselves superior to the
commoners they purportedly represent.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

09 Sep 2017, 12:28 #376

over the years I've seen some councilors think they are equal to a world leader like the Queen or a President.   All from an election where they received 3000 votes!!!
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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WickedEarlyRiser
Joined: 24 Jan 2007, 03:37

11 Sep 2017, 19:25 #377

brainfix wrote: Unbelievable. Reefer madness hysteria rears its ugly head yet again. Show me the evidence that legal weed causes crime to increase, uncontrollable addiction and rampant medical, health, financial, family, physical, mental and social ills!! After Portugal legalized all drugs, none of the above occurred.

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Legal weed doesn't cause crime to increase, but it does increase the sale of take-out pizza & Chinese food.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

11 Sep 2017, 20:15 #378

Could even (finally) be a reason for an Indian restaurant to open here!
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

12 Sep 2017, 12:34 #379

I don't think we'll see one of them until one of you people open it yourselves!!
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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NightStalker
Joined: 15 Apr 2006, 05:02

18 Sep 2017, 12:49 #380

Oped in the Herald yesterday by Jaclyn Cashman lamenting the fact that families couldn't go to the Boston Common that weekend because of the pot festival being held there.  Of course, it's Ok for protests to be held there with nitwits dressed in black witches outfits protesting the Prez'a DACA policy, for women wearing pussy hats and vagina outfits during their 'march' and for radicals from both sides acting up at a free speech rally.  somehow she sees no problems with any of those but for some people standing around smoking pot and listening to music it's not a safe and healthy environment.  This is hysteria and reefer madness in a nutshell.
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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