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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

05 Aug 2017, 18:23 #321

Damon wrote:
As I understand it Fortune Cookie, none of this is related to medical pot.
Medical?
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

05 Aug 2017, 18:23 #322

Well, time, number and place are questions allowed here on the local ballot by the law we passed. I will be particularly looking for attempts to over rule the law we passed.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

05 Aug 2017, 18:32 #323

And dammit...I never eat gummy bears and now I am totally in the mood for them.
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

05 Aug 2017, 19:49 #324

"How do you feel ..."

Answer 60/40 for it. Case closed.

There should be an unbiased moderator to change the apparent attempt at each of the ward meetings. I'm in the "THEM" 40 percenter about cannabis but these meeting should not be about a re-vote but validating the implementation of the law:

I think the responsibility of elected officials is to monitor the use and day to day problems that might need an official position. If it's a big problem the Mayor/GCC might need to take unpopular decision BUT ONLY AFTER IMPLEMENTATION IS UNDERWAY.

So get a unbiased moderator for each meeting.

Although I am one of "THEM 40%-er" I'm sorry to say gummy bears will probably my be off the menu. Jim and Margery talked about this on WGBH/BPR. When at a pot convention in Denvera while ago, Margery wanted a gummy bear but instead got rookie cookie. Gummy bears seem to be to close to the real thing for real small kids. Even though they could be sold in a tamper proof containers.

But after all, Margery sure liked her rookie cookie.

"THEM" won the gummy bear fight.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

05 Aug 2017, 20:31 #325

I know a number of people (all over 40, btw) who have legitimate Rx for cannabis. Three of them (all over 60!) buy from the Brookline Village Dispensary - the old Brookline Bank building (which is gorgeous, btw). The place has no exterior advertizing, and it has a uniformed attendant at the entrance checking people's ID and Rx. No junkies or weedheads hanging around outside, no crime wave has happened in Brookline, etc.. There are many options for "delivery", and those "gummy bears" are among the less popular-selling items. And they simply don't look like normal gummy bears, at all.

We cannot legislate all problems out of existence. Adults keep alcohol in their houses - and how many times has a small kid drunk 'Mommy's Juice' and been hurt? Of course, it happens. But there are no absolutes in life. You keep the garden gate shut, but you don't chain your kids to a stake in the yard. Or gaffa-tape them to the wall. (As much as you've occasionally wanted to. Yes, you have. Don't lie.) How about those absurd outlet covers that are sold to gullible new parents or grandparents for what has been billions of dollars over the years?! Please...somebody come up with real life evidence of a child sticking a fork or a finger into an outlet and killing themselves? Never happened. America - the land of "Let's never discuss sex or death with our kids - and it'll never happen".
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

08 Aug 2017, 22:29 #327

That article belonged on their editorial page.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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gator
Joined: 27 Apr 2011, 20:12

09 Aug 2017, 00:11 #328

Reads like a poorly written opinion piece full of assertions, not facts. By the way, Jeff hunt is a right wing christian conservative who thinks that weed is more harmful than alcohol. He tried and failed to shut down the annual 4/20 Rally in Denver last year.
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

09 Aug 2017, 02:27 #329

BI - plenty of gaffe tape (aka duct tape) kids to wall/ceiling videos out there. Also I was not clear that my previous post 60/40 was the approximate Mass. pot vote split
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

09 Aug 2017, 02:46 #330

I was in Colorado a few months back.

It seemed perfectly fine then. Not a whole lot different than when my brother lived there in the '80s and '90s.

I call bullshit.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

09 Aug 2017, 11:12 #331

Damon wrote:
That article belonged on their editorial page.
...as if he'd know the difference.  Dun - do a modicum of research before you post partisan, extremist bullshit (see gator's post for confirmation) like that, would you please?

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wikileaksonweed
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 16:19

09 Aug 2017, 12:02 #332

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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

09 Aug 2017, 12:44 #333

Proper use of ellipsis:

Leland ... I make no mistakes.

"Mistake" version:
Leland....I make no mistakes.

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It is proper to use the ellipsis and the period so then if "Leland" is a stand-alone sentence it would be:

"Leland ...."space space"I make no mistakes" NOT "Leland....I make no
mistakes"

Where "..." represents words excluded like "that is brilliant"

And "space space" two spaces between sentences - that is if you intended "Leland ... I make no mistakes." to be two sentences. Then two space separate the sentences: "Leland .... I make no mistakes."



I concede - it is gaffa tape.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

09 Aug 2017, 14:45 #334

I type in English, not American, oh pun-challenged one.
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Da Man
Joined: 10 Aug 2008, 22:42

09 Aug 2017, 14:52 #335

battlingignorance wrote:
I type in English, not American, oh pun-challenged one.
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gator
Joined: 27 Apr 2011, 20:12

09 Aug 2017, 15:14 #336

9 Fun Facts About the Man Who Says "Marijuana Devastated Colorado"






USA Today published an editorial this morning by Jeff Hunt, VP of Public Policy at Colorado Christian University (CCU), that claimed legal cannabis destroyed Colorado and will ravage America if legalization takes hold nationwide. The argument is too weak and biased to take seriously, especially when it's more fun to consider the man himself. For example, after getting his heart broke at a 4/20 rally this year, the Trump-loving Christian led a signature drive to ask the city to punish the people who organized the event. Here are some other fun facts about the Centennial State narc that USA Today somehow gave an editorial platform. 

1. Hunt called for a boycott of Beauty and the Beast

"What was frustrating about this film was we clearly saw there was an attempt to drive an agenda, and an agenda that was offensive to people who embrace and support traditional family values," Hunt told Colorado Politics. Though he didn't actually watch the movie, Hunt says it "hurt" him with an "exclusively gay moment" directed by a gay man who takes a "hostile approach to the Bible." This so-called war on Christian values involved a two-second scene in which two men danced together ever so briefly. Ironically, the scene that helped Satan declare victory might have slipped right past the extremist if the Oscar-winning director didn't mention the gay moment to Attitude magazine. 

2. He condemned the musical even though he appears in this gem

Just watch

3. His recent Facebook share might make Justin Timberlake cry a river

Again, just watch

4. Hunt likes it frothy

Speaking of rainbow haters, Hunt worked with former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum when he ran for president. Santorum, of course, is the man who said gay sex is a gateway to canine sex, which has led to such articles as Mother Jones' "Rick Santorum’s Anal Sex Problem." For what it's worth, a blog claims the founder of CCU—called the Denver Bible Institute at the time—used to have sex with the male students, though this might be heresy since the founder apparently did not progress to man-on-dog sex. 

5. Hunt runs the far-right Centennial Institute

The Centennial Institute provides Republican outreach to Christians as a faith-based think tank. So what does CI think? Well, there's a picture of Trump on its homepage, and the pussy grabber spoke at its Western Conservative Summit in 2016. The most recent summit included such Jesus doppelgangers as Ryan Zinke, John Bolton and Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow, while Dick Cheney spoke at CCU a few years ago and played all the greatest hits, WMDs included. Click here to see the CI's tragic video on the evils of cannabis. 

6. CCU fired a staffer for being a ho

CCU, which won a federal lawsuit to block the Affordable Care Act (ACA) mandate on female contraceptives, reportedly fired a student services advisor because she lived with her boyfriend, i.e., living in sin. Likewise, as if inspired by Mike Pence's stance on eating with women without "mother" present, the school supposedly criticized her for having coffee and donuts with a married man in his car. The fired employee reportedly sued the college "for privacy invasion, unlawful prohibition of legal activities and Family Medical Leave Act violations."

7. Hunt says Jesus loves free markets

In an interview with Colorado Politics, Hunt described his role at the Centennial Institute as representing "the Christian voice in the public square," which includes pushing "free markets" and "natural law." Assuming free markets is not a biblical reference to early church socialism (Acts 2:44-45: "All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need") or free labor (Colossians 3:22: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything"), it is difficult to find many free market references in the good book. 

8. And apparently Jesus loves capitalism, too

In 2006, assistant professor Andrew Paquin earned the Faculty Member of the Year award, and then the school let him go. The global studies professor "knew that not being sufficiently guided by Christ wasn't the problem. But it might have been that he wasn't sufficiently capitalist." Per a blog entry after being let go, Paquin said capitalism is the most efficient and pragmatic economic system, but he said it can also be exploitative and greedy leaving vast populations in need. "Adam Smith writes that the common good is served by the individual pursuit of self-interest. Excuse me if I believe that the pursuit of my own self-interest might be in contrast to the life of Christ that exemplifies the pursuit of the interest of others." 

9. Hunt worries fake news filters will censor Christian thought

In speaking with the Christian Post, Hunt expressed concern that Google and Facebook's crackdown on fake news will lead to Christian censorship. (Way too many ironies here to enumerate, so we'll limit it to see fun fact #1 above.) He said, "We believe things about the Bible, about the flood, about Noah, about the End Times and all that stuff. Somebody who is not a believer in that would deem that fake news or fake information." One would assume he's concerned about sharing the gospel unhindered, but then Hunt makes a weird pivot, stating, "They are going to have to have somebody that understands that just because you don't agree with someone's religious position, it doesn't make it OK to deem their website fake news and therefore, shut down ad revenue." 

Makes sense, or at least it does if you think Jesus loves capitalism and free markets as much as he hates the devil's lettuce!


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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

09 Aug 2017, 17:59 #337

gator wrote:
9 Fun Facts About the Man Who Says "Marijuana Devastated Colorado"

USA Today published an editorial this morning by Jeff Hunt, VP of Public Policy at Colorado Christian University (CCU), that claimed legal cannabis destroyed Colorado and will ravage America if legalization takes hold nationwide. The argument is too weak and biased to take seriously, especially when it's more fun to consider the man himself. For example, after getting his heart broke at a 4/20 rally this year, the Trump-loving Christian led a signature drive to ask the city to punish the people who organized the event. Here are some other fun facts about the Centennial State narc that USA Today somehow gave an editorial platform. 

....................https://prohbtd.com/9-fun-facts-about-t ... d-colorado

Isn't he drinking buddies with Chump's favourite pastor, who said that God put Trump in office to destroy North Korea?
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gator
Joined: 27 Apr 2011, 20:12

14 Aug 2017, 15:10 #338

Karly wrote:
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Anyone go last night?
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Trevor Slattery
Joined: 07 May 2015, 16:18

14 Aug 2017, 20:59 #339

by gator 
08/14/17 11:10 AM  
Karly wrote:Image 
Anyone go last night?


Wondering too.    I believe there were supposed to be informational packets handed out. Curious about the content. 
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

15 Aug 2017, 01:15 #340

I'm not sure if this is what was handed out at the meeting, but included in the Council packet for the July 25 Council meeting is a draft of the presentation to be given.


The Packet is here:  http://gloucester-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ ... /Item/7690


It's Enclosure 5, about a third of the way down - Page 35 in my browser.  (A while back I discovered that when I open a Council packet in Chrome, top right is a bookmark icon.  Clicking on that brings up a clickable index of attachments in the packet - saves sooo much scrolling.)


So.  The presentation is titled, "Implications of Recreational Marijuana."  That's a 'there you go.'


There's a concern that other North Shore communities will ban pot shops leaving Gloucester as the lone provider in a wide area.  I just had a lol moment thinking about traffic implications and potential "Visit Gloucester" tag lines and logos.


According to the timeline provided, October  3 is the final date to submit a referendum question to the City Clerk.


And then, " November 7, 2017 Voters to weigh in."  There you go ....
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