Net Neutrality

Net Neutrality

wikileaksonweed
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 16:19

21 Nov 2017, 19:12 #1

Can somebody explain to us how the FCC's plan to get rid of Net Neutrality is in any way good? This just seems 100% corporatist and like something that all sides can agree is trash. Hit us up!
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

21 Nov 2017, 19:18 #2

There is nothing good about it for anyone except telecom giants who will have more control over what we see and what we pay to see it.
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wikileaksonweed
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 16:19

21 Nov 2017, 22:14 #3

Thats what we thought!
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

21 Nov 2017, 22:43 #4

This battle has been going on for over a decade and flares up every few years.

freepress.net explains it well here:  https://www.savetheinternet.com/net-neutrality and the organization is once again in full fight mode.  Scroll down and find a couple of good blog posts explaining the current situation in more detail.

"On Jan. 14, 2014, a federal court of appeals struck down the Federal Communications Commission’s Open Internet Order, which was designed to prevent internet service providers from blocking or slowing users’ connections to online content. The court didn’t comment on the validity of these rules but simply said that the FCC had used the wrong legal foundation to justify them.

In response, on May 15 FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler released flawed internet rules that would have let ISPs charge content companies for priority treatment — relegating all other content to a slower tier of service.

Wheeler’s plan would have allowed telecom giants like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon to pick winners and losers online and discriminate against online content and applications. And it would have destroyed the open internet.

Without Net Neutrality, ISPs would be able to devise new schemes to charge users more for access and services, making it harder for us to communicate online — and easier for companies to censor our speech. The internet could come to resemble cable TV, where gatekeepers exert control over where you go and what you see.

Without Net Neutrality, ISPs would be able to block content and speech they don’t like, reject apps that compete with their own offerings, and prioritize Web traffic (reserving the fastest loading speeds for the highest bidders and sticking everyone else with the slowest).

Free Press mobilized the public and political leaders to protest Wheeler’s proposal and urge the FCC to reclassify broadband access services under Title II of the Communications Act — which is the only way to protect real Net Neutrality.

Four million people — a record-breaking figure — submitted comments on the FCC’s plan, and more than 60 members of Congress spoke out. In November 2014, President Obama joined the call and urged Wheeler to reclassify under Title II.

On Feb. 4, 2015, Wheeler confirmed that he would use Title II to give internet users the strongest protections possible. The full Commission approved his proposal on Feb. 26 — marking the biggest victory for the public interest in the FCC's history.

There have since been attempts in Congress and the courts to overturn these protections, and on May 13, 2015, Free Press filed a motion to intervene in the industry-backed court case challenging the rules. On June 14, 2016, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled in favor of the FCC’s Open Internet Order, marking a significant victory in the fight for everyone's rights to connect and communicate.

Now, under President Trump, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is doing everything he can to dismantle Net Neutrality. Speak out now to reject any attacks on the open internet."
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

21 Nov 2017, 23:57 #5

How in god's green universe can they get away with insulting us again and again and again?
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

22 Nov 2017, 02:10 #6

Right?  In 2008 (!) there was mention here on the board about freepress' successful efforts to stop Congress from abolishing Net Neutrality.

Another group that is on it - and has been every. time. - is the Electronic Frontier Foundation.  https://www.eff.org/

I've let my EFF membership lapse, but I still got the hat:

effhat.jpg



https://supporters.eff.org/shop/eff-fbi-hat
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

22 Nov 2017, 13:46 #7

Wait -- is this another part of the "winning" that dianne, masky, stan, et al were crowing about?
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stanb
Joined: 02 Jul 2008, 13:31

22 Nov 2017, 21:53 #8

Comcast said no matter what the FCC decided it would “not block, throttle, or discriminate against lawful content.”

Phew   .. I feel a lot better now
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

22 Nov 2017, 22:25 #9

lol ...
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

22 Nov 2017, 23:34 #10

Nice one, stan!  (Did they promise to sell you a bridge, too?!)
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wikileaksonweed
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 16:19

27 Nov 2017, 22:22 #11

We had to do it, folks! We did an ep on NN

https://m.soundcloud.com/wikileaksonwee ... -manifesto
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

12 Dec 2017, 10:33 #12

Internet Pioneers and Leaders Tell the FCC: You Don’t Understand How the Internet Works

Internet creators and leading figures ask the FCC to cancel its vote repealing Net Neutrality protections

https://pioneersfornetneutrality.tumblr.com/
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

12 Dec 2017, 21:36 #13

It is going to be very difficult to recover from making America great again.
This net neutrality move, like dismantling national monuments and installing
Confederate judges, will not be easy to repair.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

14 Dec 2017, 19:18 #14

3-2 vote for repeal:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... -providers

What internet service packages look like in Portugal without net neutrality - internet service providers offer bundles much like cable service does now: 

http://www.businessinsider.com/net-neut ... cc-2017-11
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

14 Dec 2017, 22:45 #15

LOL - I can not read that Business Insider article CAO because of my ad blocker.
I get the picture though.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

14 Dec 2017, 23:45 #16

Actually, they included a picture, lol.

portugal_net.jpg

"The country's wireless carrier Meo offers a package where users pay for traditional "data" for their smartphones — and on top of that, they can pay for additional packages based on the kind of data and apps they want to use, "zero-rating" those services.

Really into messaging? Then pay €4.99 ($5.86 or £4.43) a month and get more data for apps like WhatsApp, Skype, and FaceTime. Prefer social networks like Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Messenger, and so on? That'll be another €4.99 a month.

Zero-rating for video apps like Netflix and YouTube are available as another add-on, while music (Spotify, SoundCloud, Google Play Music, etc.) is another, as is email and cloud (Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, etc.)."
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

14 Dec 2017, 23:49 #17

A Public Service Announcement from the Chairman of the FCC.  For real.

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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

15 Dec 2017, 00:03 #18

Except that it will be slower and cost much more. That man is probably the second biggest as*hole in this country.
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Damon
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 22:00

15 Dec 2017, 00:08 #19

I did not believe either that video or he was real despite your
assurance until after  some searches (while still allowed
to do so).
The government has gone stark raving mad.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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Fortune Cookie
Joined: 13 Nov 2010, 17:37

15 Dec 2017, 00:25 #20

Damon wrote: I did not believe either that video or he was real despite your
assurance until after  some searches (while still allowed
to do so).
The government has gone stark raving mad.
Yup.

Along with a third or so of the populace. 
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Fortune Cookie

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