Maura Healey killed the gas pipeline and now we suffer.

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December 31st, 2017, 1:21 pm #21

Leland33 wrote: At some point in my early school days I learned if you dig a hole 20-30’ deep then borrow horizontally to make a small underground room - you’ll have a forever source of free geothermal energy.  The temperature of the room will be at a natural state of 55F regardless of the outside temperature and would depend on the heat transfer capabilities of the underground walls.

I learned the 55F underground concept when my teacher (5th grade?) taught us about fall-out shelters in the late 50s.
Gee - I learned that as a kid exploring caves.😗
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December 31st, 2017, 2:27 pm #22

ONE THIRD of Texas’s energy needs are supplied by wind turbines.  ONE THIRD.

A wind turbine farm 2-3MWe each, spans about 100 miles west of Abileen TX with clusters of farms possibly with 1000 wind turbines.

Solar run parallel with peak demand - during the 9-5 workday.
The more solar is in the grid means fossil-fired plants can throttle back and burn less fuel.

The Tesla car has created a momentum in car companies to finally ween off the hybrid and begin to manufacture electric only.... opposed by “big oil.”  There is always a risk in being first - Elon Musk talks for 15 minutes about the Powerwall2 and very attractive solar roofing options.

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December 31st, 2017, 4:34 pm #23

Leland33 wrote: ONE THIRD of Texas’s energy needs are supplied by wind turbines.  ONE THIRD.

A wind turbine farm 2-3MWe each, spans about 100 miles west of Abileen TX with clusters of farms possibly with 1000 wind turbines.

Solar run parallel with peak demand - during the 9-5 workday.
The more solar is in the grid means fossil-fired plants can throttle back and burn less fuel.

The Tesla car has created a momentum in car companies to finally ween off the hybrid and begin to manufacture electric only.... opposed by “big oil.”  There is always a risk in being first - Elon Musk talks for 15 minutes about the Powerwall2 and very attractive solar roofing options.

From Wikipedia:

"Wind power in Texas consists of many wind farms with a total installed nameplate capacityof 21,450 MW[1][2] from over 40 different projects. Texas produces the most wind power of any U.S. state.[3] Wind power accounted for 12.63% of the electricity generated in Texas in the 12 months ending Oct 2016.[1]"

From Scientific American:

"Natural gas has long been coal’s most formidable competition in Texas. Last year, gas accounted for 44 percent of ERCOT’s electricity generation. Coal and wind represented 29 percent and 15 percent, respectively.

But wind is increasingly competitive. Because turbine operators have no fuel costs, their power is generally dispatched before coal and gas."

It is all on an upward curve but we have a way to go:

"In a study released today assessing the distributional impacts of federal wind subsidies, analysts from the Institute for Energy Research found that 30 states and the District of Columbia are marking up net losses to fund the wind Production Tax Credit (PTC) and pour millions of their taxpayer dollars into the pockets of wind producers… Texas is the biggest net taker of federal wind subsidies nationwide, raking in $394.5 million more in wind subsidies than its share of the federal wind subsidy-related tax burden.

In fact, federal tax subsidies for wind power are so large, that Texas wind generators have begun to pay people to take their electricity, just so they can be eligible for the subsidy. Yet while this may be a good deal for wind generators, it poses a serious long term problem for Texas’ electrical grid. The PTC is currently set to expire at the end of this year, though there is talk of extending it yet again. Texas’ heavy dependence on federal subsidies from the PTC is contrary to the state’s fierce independence and commitment to free markets.   " 
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December 31st, 2017, 8:33 pm #24

William Taylor.e wrote:
Leland33 wrote: ONE THIRD of Texas’s energy needs are supplied by wind turbines.  ONE THIRD.

A wind turbine farm 2-3MWe each, spans about 100 miles west of Abileen TX with clusters of farms possibly with 1000 wind turbines.

Solar run parallel with peak demand - during the 9-5 workday.
The more solar is in the grid means fossil-fired plants can throttle back and burn less fuel.

The Tesla car has created a momentum in car companies to finally ween off the hybrid and begin to manufacture electric only.... opposed by “big oil.”  There is always a risk in being first - Elon Musk talks for 15 minutes about the Powerwall2 and very attractive solar roofing options.

From Wikipedia:

"Wind power in Texas consists of many wind farms with a total installed nameplate capacityof 21,450 MW[1][2] from over 40 different projects. Texas produces the most wind power of any U.S. state.[3] Wind power accounted for 12.63% of the electricity generated in Texas in the 12 months ending Oct 2016.[1]"

From Scientific American:

"Natural gas has long been coal’s most formidable competition in Texas. Last year, gas accounted for 44 percent of ERCOT’s electricity generation. Coal and wind represented 29 percent and 15 percent, respectively.

But wind is increasingly competitive. Because turbine operators have no fuel costs, their power is generally dispatched before coal and gas."

It is all on an upward curve but we have a way to go:

"In a study released today assessing the distributional impacts of federal wind subsidies, analysts from the Institute for Energy Research found that 30 states and the District of Columbia are marking up net losses to fund the wind Production Tax Curedit (PTC) and pour millions of their taxpayer dollars into the pockets of wind producers… Texas is the biggest net taker of federal wind subsidies nationwide, raking in $394.5 million more in wind subsidies than its share of the federal wind subsidy-related tax burden.

In fact, federal tax subsidies for wind power are so large, that Texas wind generators have begun to pay people to take their electricity, just so they can be eligible for the subsidy. Yet while this may be a good deal for wind generators, it poses a serious long term problem for Texas’ electrical grid. The PTC is currently set to expire at the end of this year, though there is talk of extending it yet again. Texas’ heavy dependence on federal subsidies from the PTC is contrary to the state’s fierce independence and commitment to free markets.   " 
Yes, we commonly see solar subsidies but yeah, wind too. A 1999 Tx goal of 10,000MWe of sustainable energy by 2025 was ACHIEVED 9 YEARS AGO - 16 years ahead of schedule.  Talk about sueweepigpigpig!  I think subsididies are good with the hope of accelerating the future of sustainable energy.

Anyway,

My source for “A THIRD” (nominally for 29.3) was this FOX BUSINSS REPORT - from the United States Energy Information Administration.




I looked for the data to support 29.3% and found everything else.

https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=TX

On night two of two across country was in Abilene TX - now just a month ago.  In the push of limiting stops and fill-ups there was one brief time to take in a remarkable site outside of the hotel.  That was at sunrise - about to start the last leg - were a zillion wind turbines in the distance in the pre-sunrise lighting the sky.

TAKING 2017 out on this note ...

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January 1st, 2018, 10:09 am #25

Your all-or-nothing stance will not be part of the future of energy production and storage, William...any more than simply finding sources to support your biases. (That Forbes opinion piece was written in 2015 by an oil-groupie, btw.)

And your subsidies meme is really quite irrelevant - unless you also acknowledge the long term, incredibly large government subsidies that have been around for decades for coal and gasoline, alone...direct and indirect.
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January 2nd, 2018, 10:35 am #26

battlingignorance wrote: Your all-or-nothing stance will not be part of the future of energy production and storage, William...any more than simply finding sources to support your biases. (That Forbes opinion piece was written in 2015 by an oil-groupie, btw.)

And your subsidies meme is really quite irrelevant - unless you also acknowledge the long term, incredibly large government subsidies that have been around for decades for coal and gasoline, alone...direct and indirect.
Subsidies, no matter for what business, are an inefficient way to conduct business and usually the result of political pressure. They are great to help the underprivileged get underway in life or business but otherwise government and taxpayers end up supporting businesses that cannot support themselves and once the subsidy is given it is difficult to take away....like the ethanol fiasco.

Hey, anyway, BI,I did not see you at the Polar Plunge yesterday ...what's the matter, you wimp out? 
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January 2nd, 2018, 2:59 pm #27

Hey, a LIKE button! Goes to show you how FB has spoiled things such that I kept looking for one.

ANYWAY...

Someone over in Rockport was trying to argue that we should have the ability to have LNG piped to our homes. Yeah, most of us live on ledge. Can you imagine the cost to make that happen? Also: 💥

Imagine a world with no subsidies for oil and gas; if the price weren't kept artificially low.
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January 2nd, 2018, 3:52 pm #28

IA - couldn’t find the IGA thread but a pop up ad for “Uncle Gieseppe’s” appeared here on CAO.  I responded to them suggesting the IGA site - despite problems.

As small as Uncle G’s are in number and footprint (mostly on LI NY) they’d be perfect for IGA. Fresh and cheap.

If the town could give a ten year TIF to offset the rent, etc. it would be worth it to buy veges, soup, bread, whatever.

And in ten years I might afford to be driving a 2017 Tesla despite how big oil is going after Tesla - at least the old ones will still be around.

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January 3rd, 2018, 12:17 pm #29

Leland33 wrote: IA - couldn’t find the IGA thread but a pop up ad for “Uncle Gieseppe’s” appeared here on CAO.  I responded to them suggesting the IGA site - despite problems.
This was a very confusing response. 🤔
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January 3rd, 2018, 4:34 pm #30

Island Annie wrote:
Leland33 wrote: IA - couldn’t find the IGA thread but a pop up ad for “Uncle Gieseppe’s” appeared here on CAO.  I responded to them suggesting the IGA site - despite problems.
This was a very confusing
response. 🤔

... to think I posted that at 3:52PM and not 3:52AM - my usual post hour...

Explanation:
There was a discussion about IGA being vacant for years and high rents requested by the current IGA site owner.  I could not find the thread.

A pop up ad on this very CAO tapatalk showed Uncle Giuseppe’s markets.  Wow I thought my late mother shopped there - low, low cost, very very high quality, she was a regular.  I love Gloucester/Terasini’s red sauce and my Mom’s is darn close.

Mostly on LI NY - Uncle G’s is expanding and in that same CAO ad it was soliciting ideas of where to locate future stores.  I emailed a thumbnail response but haven’t heard back yet from a Uncle G.

BUT COINCIDENTALLY now on Uncle G’s website there is a restaurant called Giuseppe’s IN GLOUCESTER but it’s permanently closed.

Oh, Giuseppe’s at Blackburn.

I share a birthday with San Giuseppe.  Sometimes I would get two birthday cards from my mother - one for me and for Saint Joseph. My mother took pride in my choice of living in Gloucester - especially after witnessing the procession for San Pedro.

I will try again - mostly too correct the error now on Uncle G’s website and to mention how devoted Gloucester is to San Giuseppe.

Sorry for the confusion but I hope you NOW see what I meant.
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January 3rd, 2018, 5:09 pm #31

William Taylor.e wrote:
battlingignorance wrote: Your all-or-nothing stance will not be part of the future of energy production and storage, William...any more than simply finding sources to support your biases. (That Forbes opinion piece was written in 2015 by an oil-groupie, btw.)

And your subsidies meme is really quite irrelevant - unless you also acknowledge the long term, incredibly large government subsidies that have been around for decades for coal and gasoline, alone...direct and indirect.
Subsidies, no matter for what business, are an inefficient way to conduct business and usually the result of political pressure. They are great to help the underprivileged get underway in life or business but otherwise government and taxpayers end up supporting businesses that cannot support themselves and once the subsidy is given it is difficult to take away....like the ethanol fiasco.

Hey, anyway, BI,I did not see you at the Polar Plunge yesterday ...what's the matter, you wimp out?
Then you are blind, Sir!  I was there....as an observer only, of course. I went to cheer some young friends...and George, of course - the last man out of the water. Balls of steel - just not terribly big by end of play. ;-)
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January 3rd, 2018, 8:49 pm #32

AG Healy is regularly on BPR WGBH which I listen to frequently.  The thing that gets me about HER is how she tends to talk like a second grade teacher.  BUT on the flip side she communicates at my level.

Say, William here’s my last shot at the numbers - WIND U.S. wind 12.5% - TEXAS 25% - both percentages for just October 2017.and not the yesr:  EARLIER I quoted 29.3% THATS for September 2015 displayed on the silly Fox News report.

FINAL ANSWER.

I looked at the U.S. Energy Information Admisstration charts I believe these numbers are good - and only two things matter William,  WIND, dominating as ANY sustainable source -,went from zero to whatever ... in only fifteen years. (Nukes have been at it for 60 years commercially, Oil, Gas and Coal —— a zillion years or more.)

The only other thing that matters are the posts you made about YOUR attempts at recording Bob Dylan in southern Connecticut on Long Island Sound.  Maaaan...

I kinda feel bad goin’ against discussions and not being LIKED, like a complete unknown; LIKE a rolling stone.

[time to get out the blues harp]
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