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August 9th, 2018, 10:32 am #21

"  2.  Parking Row in front of Beauport  "

Fun and games with tractor trailers? This is just plain crazy.
Trucks and pedestrians would be challenged to say the least.
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August 9th, 2018, 3:54 pm #22

Damon wrote: "  2.  Parking Row in front of Beauport  "

Fun and games with tractor trailers? This is just plain crazy.
Trucks and pedestrians would be challenged to say the least.
That matters now? Why? 
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August 9th, 2018, 4:05 pm #23

Damon wrote: "  2.  Parking Row in front of Beauport  "

Fun and games with tractor trailers? This is just plain crazy.
Trucks and pedestrians would be challenged to say the least.
Commercial St. has been widened during the hotel build even with sidewalks added. With cars parked there it would bring the original pre-hotel road width. However I would suggest that stretch only used for tour bus pick up and drop off. 
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August 9th, 2018, 7:55 pm #24

Dun Fudgin wrote:
Damon wrote: "  2.  Parking Row in front of Beauport  "

Fun and games with tractor trailers? This is just plain crazy.
Trucks and pedestrians would be challenged to say the least.
Commercial St. has been widened during the hotel build even with sidewalks added. With cars parked there it would bring the original pre-hotel road width. However I would suggest that stretch only used for tour bus pick up and drop off. 
How about the city lease a portion of the IC Dirt lot since all its going to be is a empty lot, or is that against some rule.
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August 9th, 2018, 10:10 pm #25

drinkycrow wrote:
Dun Fudgin wrote:
Damon wrote: "  2.  Parking Row in front of Beauport  "

Fun and games with tractor trailers? This is just plain crazy.
Trucks and pedestrians would be challenged to say the least.
Commercial St. has been widened during the hotel build even with sidewalks added. With cars parked there it would bring the original pre-hotel road width. However I would suggest that stretch only used for tour bus pick up and drop off. 
How about the city lease a portion of the IC Dirt lot since all its going to be is a empty lot, or is that against some rule.
The hotel has all the parking figured out. It's a few who don't know the issue. The city at least is collecting parking revenue from I4-C2. I would think The Gloucester House could use it more than anyone.
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August 10th, 2018, 8:52 am #26

The hotel has all the parking figured out?  then why would there be a Ward meeting to find solutions to the parking problem?  
it is also silly to keep repeating Commercial St. has been widened.  The only section of Commercial St. which is wider is the portion right in front of the hotel. It is wider there with a ride up curbing.  It enables the extra stretch limos and party buses a place to load and off load passengers.  These vehicles simply do not fit into the hotel parking lot - the turning radius is too small.  They then must go find some where to park as they await to pick up their passengers.  
The remainder of Commercial St - at 65 Commercial St and from 33 Commercial St to Beach Court remains the original width.  The original curbing and sidewalks still remain. 
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August 10th, 2018, 9:12 pm #27

harbordog wrote: The hotel has all the parking figured out?  then why would there be a Ward meeting to find solutions to the parking problem?  
it is also silly to keep repeating Commercial St. has been widened.  The only section of Commercial St. which is wider is the portion right in front of the hotel. It is wider there with a ride up curbing.  It enables the extra stretch limos and party buses a place to load and off load passengers.  These vehicles simply do not fit into the hotel parking lot - the turning radius is too small.  They then must go find some where to park as they await to pick up their passengers.  
The remainder of Commercial St - at 65 Commercial St and from 33 Commercial St to Beach Court remains the original width.  The original curbing and sidewalks still remain. 
There's been some who have parked along Fort Square and the playground parking lot. Some are guests of the hotel and some employees which should know better. Once an employee's car has been towed they don't repeat. Yes Commercial St. is wider in front of the hotel with addition to sidewalks. This also makes it easier for trucks backing into Mortillaro's loading dock as well as a drop off location for large buses. And it's now safer for pedestrians. BTW large buses if staying overnight are directed to either Cruiseport or Americold (per agreement) for parking while the hotel shuttle provides the bus drivers transportation to and from there. I'll add last night a car was towed per order of police which was parked on Commercial St. towards the loading dock of the hotel, the owner wasn't a guest of the hotel nor a employee.
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August 11th, 2018, 11:06 am #28

methinks harbor has a dog in this fight.
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August 11th, 2018, 12:43 pm #29

battlingignorance wrote: methinks harbor has a dog in this fight.
Mehinks this is just more asshole obstructionist trying to make a mountain out of a molehill 
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August 11th, 2018, 3:53 pm #30

Although Dun Fudgin down plays the parking issues, stretch limos and event buses routinely park illegally all around the area - on public and private property.   Usually drivers stay with these vehicles so they readily move when asked. 
Tally's hookers have benefited by the routine towing of hotel visitors and employee cars illegally parked around the area.
This is deeper than just parking violations.
Last Sunday a wedding party decides to take photos on the new Mortillaro Lobster dock.  While an employee is leaving work, a bride and groom pass by him, and the no trespassing sign, out onto the dock.  Three photographers all scurrying around while bride and groom pose.  Now if someone is excited or inebriated and not paying close attention and trips off the dock into the water.....trouble.
Boaters decide they need hotel access and tie up illegally and disembark on private dockage.  
That is just this week's report.
So by land and by sea there is continued trespassing which is all brought on by the hotel.  The least the hotel can do is try to control their land guests; guests by water well, that is another issue.
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August 11th, 2018, 4:30 pm #31

harbordog wrote: Although Dun Fudgin down plays the parking issues, stretch limos and event buses routinely park illegally all around the area - on public and private property.   Usually drivers stay with these vehicles so they readily move when asked. 
Tally's hookers have benefited by the routine towing of hotel visitors and employee cars illegally parked around the area.
This is deeper than just parking violations
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Last Sunday a wedding party decides to take photos on the new Mortillaro Lobster dock.  While an employee is leaving work, a bride and groom pass by him, and the no trespassing sign, out onto the dock.  Three photographers all scurrying around while bride and groom pose.  Now if someone is excited or inebriated and not paying close attention and trips off the dock into the water.....trouble.
Boaters decide they need hotel access and tie up illegally and disembark on private dockage.  
That is just this week's report.
So by land and by sea there is continued trespassing which is all brought on by the hotel.  The least the hotel can do is try to control their land guests; guests by water well, that is another issue.
There are constant parking  and traffic violations throughout the city. Why should the hotel's business be targeted for traffic enforcement when the whole city needs traffic enforcement? 
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August 11th, 2018, 5:08 pm #32

harbordog wrote: Although Dun Fudgin down plays the parking issues, stretch limos and event buses routinely park illegally all around the area - on public and private property.   Usually drivers stay with these vehicles so they readily move when asked. 
Tally's hookers have benefited by the routine towing of hotel visitors and employee cars illegally parked around the area.
This is deeper than just parking violations.
Last Sunday a wedding party decides to take photos on the new Mortillaro Lobster dock.  While an employee is leaving work, a bride and groom pass by him, and the no trespassing sign, out onto the dock.  Three photographers all scurrying around while bride and groom pose.  Now if someone is excited or inebriated and not paying close attention and trips off the dock into the water.....trouble.
Boaters decide they need hotel access and tie up illegally and disembark on private dockage.  
That is just this week's report.
So by land and by sea there is continued trespassing which is all brought on by the hotel.  The least the hotel can do is try to control their land guests; guests by water well, that is another issue.
I've seen similar before the hotel was constructed. People not in the know think because it's Sunday or after normal business hours tend to believe businesses are closed. Last night a chartered school bus was parked in front of Mortillaro's and I found the driver and asked him to move. 
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August 11th, 2018, 9:18 pm #33

Complaints and rebuttals will be aired at a public meeting, which is always a good thing.

I haven't looked at the hotel's Special Permit but, complaints and rebuttals aside, if an off-site lot was a condition of the permit, then that non-compliance needs to addressed.
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August 11th, 2018, 9:20 pm #34

harbordog wrote: Although Dun Fudgin down plays the parking issues, stretch limos and event buses routinely park illegally all around the area - on public and private property.   Usually drivers stay with these vehicles so they readily move when asked. 
Tally's hookers have benefited by the routine towing of hotel visitors and employee cars illegally parked around the area.
This is deeper than just parking violations.
Last Sunday a wedding party decides to take photos on the new Mortillaro Lobster dock.  While an employee is leaving work, a bride and groom pass by him, and the no trespassing sign, out onto the dock.  Three photographers all scurrying around while bride and groom pose.  Now if someone is excited or inebriated and not paying close attention and trips off the dock into the water.....trouble.
Boaters decide they need hotel access and tie up illegally and disembark on private dockage.  
That is just this week's report.
So by land and by sea there is continued trespassing which is all brought on by the hotel.  The least the hotel can do is try to control their land guests; guests by water well, that is another issue.
FFS...
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August 11th, 2018, 9:24 pm #35

Harbordog, I know where you can pick up a few of these, cheap. 

Don't expect the lubberly to understand the issue with dockage trespass.

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