Grant for Harbormasters office/visitor center

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September 27th, 2017, 4:18 pm #41

This is not the study - this is the Plan of Services contract that the City entered into with Harriman Consulting to perform the study.

I'm able to upload a pdf to our tapatalk site, but haven't figured out if or how I can embed it in a post - I'm thinking no.

Anyhow, clicking the link will download it to you computer:

Harriman feasibility study (1).pdf (258.83 KiB)
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September 27th, 2017, 7:22 pm #42

I am not aware of any plan to include any facilities for youth sailing programs.
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September 27th, 2017, 8:02 pm #43

we will have to wait for the presentation by the consultant to see.
are there drafted plans available?
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September 27th, 2017, 11:37 pm #44

Damon wrote: I am not aware of any plan to include any facilities for youth sailing programs.
In the drawings I saw there would be space for the 13' Whaler and some outside lockers.
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September 28th, 2017, 1:53 am #45

Dun Fudgin wrote:
Damon wrote: I am not aware of any plan to include any facilities for youth sailing programs.
In the drawings I saw there would be space for the 13' Whaler and some outside lockers.
That is interesting. The Y program that used the former Solomon Jacobs facility no longer operates and suggestions that provisions be made for local youth programs have not been met with enthusiasm.
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September 28th, 2017, 8:46 am #46

Where are these plans held or how would one get access to them?  Who would be willing to share them?
It would be good to get a look before the public meeting.
outside lockers?  that sounds useful.  maybe a good start.
traditionally there were 2 slips available at the Harbormaster's dock for community access launches.  Before the clean up project dismantled the floats system, the YMCA and SailGHS each had a launch tie up there.
When SailGHS relocated their access to Maritime Gloucester (which as suppose to be temporary until access to Solomon Jacobs park was reestablished) the YMCA had 2 whalers there.
once the new float system is complete it will have much more dockage available than the previous configuration.
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September 28th, 2017, 4:44 pm #47

harbordog wrote: Where are these plans held or how would one get access to them?  Who would be willing to share them?
It would be good to get a look before the public meeting.
outside lockers?  that sounds useful.  maybe a good start.
traditionally there were 2 slips available at the Harbormaster's dock for community access launches.  Before the clean up project dismantled the floats system, the YMCA and SailGHS each had a launch tie up there.
When SailGHS relocated their access to Maritime Gloucester (which as suppose to be temporary until access to Solomon Jacobs park was reestablished) the YMCA had 2 whalers there.
once the new float system is complete it will have much more dockage available than the previous configuration.
I was a member of "Friends of the Harbor" a group which researched and discussed better ways to expand uses of the harbor. Increased moorings to increase revenue and lower waiting list times, Transient boater center and more community access/facilities.
I did have a copy of the plans for the harbormaster facility in my e-mail files on my old computer and so far unable to retrieve them on this computer.
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October 16th, 2017, 4:21 pm #48

The feasibility study is online:

http://gloucester-ma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/4590
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November 29th, 2017, 10:43 am #49

City Council, October 28,2017 (draft minutes in 11/14/17 CC packet):

http://www.gloucester-ma.gov/ArchiveCen ... /Item/8123

Individual Councilor’s Discussion including Reports by Appointed Councilors to Committees: Update on the Waterways Board by City Council Representative. Councilor Steven LeBlanc highlighted the following Waterways Board matters as follows:

 · The Harbormaster’s facility is still a work in progress and should be ready for the next boating season with the docks fully installed; 

· There was an on-line survey from transient mooring users – there were about 20 responses that were universally positive reviews on the services offered to them through the Harbormaster’s Office. He briefly read several excerpts of some of the positive statements by recreational boaters about this past summer’s experience both with obtaining transient moorings, the responsiveness of the Harbormaster and his team, and the service offered through the Gloucester Launch. 

· There was a Feasibility Study for the location of the Harbormaster’s facility public hearing held recently. The study looked at several locations in the area of Gloucester Harbor: Pier 7, Cape Pond Ice, I4-C2, a marina in East Gloucester. Where the office is currently sited on Harbor Loop at Solomon Jacob’s Pier was determined to be the best location. Through this study the city will be able to request funding from the Seaport Economic Council to update the Harbormaster’s Office facilities to better serve the city’s recreational and commercial boaters. 

· Transient dockage is limited and the Board is looking to increase the city’s. Councilor Gilman expressed her agreement that the Waterways Board was doing a “tremendous” job. She said she’s talked to people who have told her how pleased they are with the new transient mooring reservation system, mooring management and the responsiveness of the Harbormaster’s office. She asked that information be conveyed to the Board through Councilor LeBlanc. She noted she sent a letter to the Board on her thoughts about the Harbormaster’s office. She noted that in her letter she said she would like to see considered a spot by the entrance of Ipswich Bay near the Annisquam Yacht Club for a boat to be stationed so that when there is an emergency at that end of the river or out on Ipswich Bay there would be a more immediate on-the-water response. She acknowledged there would likely be a cost associated with such an initiative. She suggested that the Annisquam Yacht Club could be approached and may be amenable to offering a slip for the sake of the safety of all city boaters. Councilor LeBlanc said he would be pleased to bring that idea to the Board.

Council President Ciolino noted there used to be a small boat stationed in the river on weekends for rapid response in emergency situations. He asked that when considering the location of the Harbormaster’s Office that the Board considers community boating. He noted there are many people who don’t have access to the water and should have an opportunity to do so. 
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June 29th, 2018, 9:46 am #50

On the agenda for Budget & Finance on Thursday, July 5:

Community Development and CFO will apply for a Seaport Economic Council grant for $1m for Harbormaster Facilities Improvement and Visiting Boating Center.  In the meantime, they are requesting a loan order for the estimated gross amount of the project of $1.6m.

Memos from both Community Development and CFO are included in the packet:

http://gloucester-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ ... /Item/9129
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June 29th, 2018, 9:58 am #51

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July 2nd, 2018, 10:00 am #52

You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give..
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July 3rd, 2018, 1:50 am #53

This is in a good location for a information center for visitors via land AND sea ... and RESTROOMS for them.

Is $1.6 million for JUST BOATERS a good payback?

Shared with SAILGHS? Good!


But why the kitchen? The marine traffic is suppose to be spending money at restaurants like a killer bowl of red spicey fish-chowder at Halibut Point VERSES HEATING UP A 75¢ CAN OF BAKED BEANS AT THE WELCOMING CENTER.

IN SHORT:
- info center for all.
- Accommodate land people (rest rooms only), marine people (restrooms and showers)and GHS Youth (shared? restroom, shower add locked stowage for gear and street clothes.

No kitchen..
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July 3rd, 2018, 8:32 am #54

yes, too bad someone couldn't come up with a more broad based use - like something for residents to support their boating needs.  maybe a public discussion about what amenities the community would like to see before spending our money.  how about a rowing center?  someplace to store oars and gear and get a launch out to rowboats in the harbor?  
a $1.6 million dollar yacht club for transient yachters will be underutilized except for possibly the height of the season.
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