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April 4th, 2018, 8:38 pm #941

Karly wrote: I was happy to see the P & D subcommittee move the Fuller development P & S revision forward to the full City Council.  They also are recommending that the council not only approve of the City's letter of pledged support for the Middle Street project but that as a council they endorse it to show their support.  The hardship application will likely be withdrawn by the developer at the full council meeting since it will no longer be applicable.   Everyone wants to get this done now.  Very happy meeting.  Even got to see our fearless CAO leader :-)
Heh.  I truly admire your energy and enthusiasm and kind of rue the fact that I've been doing this too long and know too many backstories to be doing a booyah, lol.  Love the Y, think it's a great location for them, have no love lost for Park, can't understand Dolben's resistance to complying with the ordinance.  I think that I think too much ...
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April 4th, 2018, 8:50 pm #942

Cathy (Admin) wrote:
Karly wrote: I was happy to see the P & D subcommittee move the Fuller development P & S revision forward to the full City Council.  They also are recommending that the council not only approve of the City's letter of pledged support for the Middle Street project but that as a council they endorse it to show their support.  The hardship application will likely be withdrawn by the developer at the full council meeting since it will no longer be applicable.   Everyone wants to get this done now.  Very happy meeting.  Even got to see our fearless CAO leader :-)
Heh.  I truly admire your energy and enthusiasm and kind of rue the fact that I've been doing this too long and know too many backstories to be doing a booyah, lol.  Love the Y, think it's a great location for them, have no love lost for Park, can't understand Dolben's resistance to complying with the ordinance.  I think that I think too much ...
No you don't think too much.  Keep doing it your way!  We all learn from your research and questions.
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April 4th, 2018, 9:26 pm #943

Oh...you got a huge compliment tonight Cathy but I probably should send it via PM.  People appreciate your research!
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April 4th, 2018, 9:41 pm #944

Sorry Cathy...I tried to do PM...first time I've tried on TapaTalk and I don't think it worked. Anyway...people appreciate you!
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April 5th, 2018, 7:10 am #945

Karly wrote: Sorry Cathy...I tried to do PM...first time I've tried on TapaTalk and I don't think it worked. Anyway...people appreciate you!
It worked - thanks!  (Messages don't show as "sent" until the recipient opens it - it shows as a message in your "outbox" until then.)
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April 10th, 2018, 8:54 pm #946

I couldn't get to the Council meeting tonight for the vote on accepting the amended P&S from FMUV.  I expect that it passed but will be interested in any discussion about it.
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April 10th, 2018, 9:17 pm #947

Me too...I felt like crap today so didn't go but I'm asking about the AH and pot shop discussions if any.
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April 18th, 2018, 10:50 pm #948

jasongrow wrote:
tyu12 wrote:
Karly wrote: Well sit down and pour yourself a cup of coffee, tyu!  It is very interesting and packed with information about demographic trends, available land, our projected future housing needs and much more.  If you read it you will see that we need a lot more housing (both affordable and market rate) even as our population declines due to the aging of our households...fewer people per unit. 

http://www.gloucester-ma.gov/documentcenter/view/4238
I will give it a look over but just remember that they could not get rid of the units over at lepages and have many out of town people living over there. 
Anyone living in Gloucester is by definition a Gloucester resident, so, no, there aren't any "out of town people" living at Le Pages. 
true but Why do you want to bring in more people into the city? Is it just a ploy to get more money for the schools
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April 19th, 2018, 10:01 am #949

tyu12 wrote:
jasongrow wrote:
tyu12 wrote:
Karly wrote: Well sit down and pour yourself a cup of coffee, tyu!  It is very interesting and packed with information about demographic trends, available land, our projected future housing needs and much more.  If you read it you will see that we need a lot more housing (both affordable and market rate) even as our population declines due to the aging of our households...fewer people per unit. 

http://www.gloucester-ma.gov/documentcenter/view/4238
I will give it a look over but just remember that they could not get rid of the units over at lepages and have many out of town people living over there.
Anyone living in Gloucester is by definition a Gloucester resident, so, no, there aren't any "out of town people" living at Le Pages.
true but Why do you want to bring in more people into the city? Is it just a ploy to get more money for the schools
Actually, most people are hoping to squeeze you out, tyu....
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April 19th, 2018, 11:55 am #950

I don't doubt that. But why else would you want more people into the city other than getting money for your schools?
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April 19th, 2018, 4:12 pm #951

tyu12 wrote: I don't doubt that. But why else would you want more people into the city other than getting money for your schools?
What is wrong with more money for our schools and our children.
The better the schools, the more educated population we have, therefore the less people like you!
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April 20th, 2018, 12:23 am #952

Engaging Tyu is a pointless exercise. Every village has its idiot and Tyu is tenaciously clinging to the crown.
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April 20th, 2018, 7:13 am #953

gloman wrote:
tyu12 wrote: I don't doubt that. But why else would you want more people into the city other than getting money for your schools?
What is wrong with more money for our schools and our children.
The better the schools, the more educated population we have, therefore the less people like you!
Or, as the truly "more educated population" would say, - the fewer people like <tyu>. 😉
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April 20th, 2018, 10:46 am #954

battlingignorance wrote:
gloman wrote:
tyu12 wrote: I don't doubt that. But why else would you want more people into the city other than getting money for your schools?
What is wrong with more money for our schools and our children.
The better the schools, the more educated population we have, therefore the less people like you!
Or, as the truly "more educated population" would say, - the fewer people like <tyu>. 😉
Not to drag this out but a more educated population tends to vote Democratic Issues like education, social programs, healthcare for all, voting rights, clean enviorment, etc.
Who wants that! .
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May 20th, 2018, 7:19 pm #955

This is still being worked out on issues unrelated to affordable housing.

Per Councilor Val Gilman on FB...."Attended planning board meeting on 5/17, last Thursday, to hear the update. FMUV is continuing to the June 7th Planning Board Meeting. In the meantime they are meeting with the peer reviewer and the CDM to keep pushing forward. 

Hope it gets to P and D shortly."

And... "Here is a slide from the FMUV LLC applicant update last Thursday to Planning Board regarding enhancements due to feedback."  

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May 20th, 2018, 7:32 pm #956

Karly have you been our driving lately the traffic is getting ridiculous are you sure you want to add 250+ housing units in the city in such a small area?
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May 20th, 2018, 7:35 pm #957

200 units.  I am not crazy about the number but if we are building 200 of them I sure as hell want to be sure 15% are affordable.  That part is done and it will be good to have a new YMCA there also.  

 We do need over 600 units in the next ten years (again...you need to read the housing production plan to understand how our declining but aging population creates this need) and this will be a good start.
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May 21st, 2018, 7:50 am #958

tyu12 wrote: Karly have you been our driving lately the traffic is getting ridiculous are you sure you want to add 250+ housing units in the city in such a small area?
The traffic is only "ridiculous" by comparison with what it was like 15+ years ago. Sort of like everywhere else with a population of more than 1,000 people.
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May 21st, 2018, 7:54 am #959

tyu12 wrote: Karly have you been our driving lately the traffic is getting ridiculous are you sure you want to add 250+ housing units in the city in such a small area?
You might be forgetting that our population has actually declined by several thousand. 
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May 21st, 2018, 8:32 am #960

A long time ago it was one family, one car.    now everyone in the family has one.  I have a neighbor who lives in a duplex and they have 9 cars total.    it's simple to figure out.  
You think you know it, but you haven't got a clue!!
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