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09 Jan 2018, 02:59 #81

SEE POST #83 (below)
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Joined: 27 Apr 2011, 20:12

09 Jan 2018, 03:41 #82

I noticed there's a gofundme page and it's not really gaining any steam. I don't think the city or school is responsible so hopefully friends, family, acquaintances and citizens with pull together to help somehow.
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09 Jan 2018, 03:49 #83

sugarmagnolia wrote:
Leland33 wrote: Maybe a voluntary “work-off” at say $20/hour to pay back all or some of any $$$ settlement.
Shoveling out elderly?
Yes.  Really good one!

I can’t take credit for the idea, though.  

I DO admit it that i JUST heard a story on the radio.  A ten year old boy had racked up $28 in overdue fines at a local library,  

When he was interviewed he was seated in the library reading ... at $5 at hour.  He admitted he loved to read but could stop with books being overdue.

His mother mentioned the “work-back” helped with the family’s tight budget.

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Shoveling out the elderly is a great idea and maybe stopping in and saying hello and listen to a story or two by elders of  Gloucester.
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Joined: 30 Mar 2007, 04:27

09 Jan 2018, 15:50 #84

I wonder  what the percentage of houses in Gloucester is that do not have on site parking?
Not having it decreases the selling price and I would think in this day and age when a lot of families commute to work and have two cars or kids that this would eliminate upwardly mobile families from moving here.
I know I would not buy a house with no parking.
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09 Jan 2018, 15:56 #85

Maybe I've missed it, but don't recall hearing of if the flood gate that connects the canal to a small saltwater wetland (which is located next to the lower parking lot) was shut ........ and if so when?
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09 Jan 2018, 17:02 #86

William Taylor.e wrote: I wonder  what the percentage of houses in Gloucester is that do not have on site parking?
Not having it decreases the selling price and I would think in this day and age when a lot of families commute to work and have two cars or kids that this would eliminate upwardly mobile families from moving here.
I know I would not buy a house with no parking.
William...a lot of downtown is rental units.  If landlords don't live there they don't have to worry about parking. And as we know, rents are very high on Cape Ann. Many are on very small lots with no chance to add parking.
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09 Jan 2018, 22:25 #87

Ever walked along Centennial Avenue, William?!
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09 Jan 2018, 22:39 #88

"I know I would not buy a house with no parking..." 

Egads... Impressive standards!

But if you were not a person of means, you might have to rent a place with no parking !!!  Can you imagine how icky that would be, WIlliam?
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10 Jan 2018, 00:47 #89

DM3194 wrote: "I know I would not buy a house with no parking..." 

Egads... Impressive standards!

But if you were not a person of means, you might have to rent a place with no parking !!!  Can you imagine how icky that would be, WIlliam?
I did for many years when I lived in Cambridge. It was much easier in the past as back then most people had one car, As a person of means do you have parking DM? If you are elderly or carrying groceries for a family, parking is important. Surely you understand that in this day and age parking is highly desirable and many people would not buy a house that did not have it. I take it you hesitate to support upward mobility? 
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10 Jan 2018, 01:53 #90

There are two go fund me sites, one is over half the way there (for an individual) and the other just starting (for a group of recipients)

Both are “trending”

https://www.gofundme.com/car-totaled-in-ghs-parking-lot


https://www.gofundme.com/cars-at-gloucester-high-school

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As “Night” posted maybe alternate side for back street might work.

In Buffalo just main roads did not allow parking during a snow emergency. Very wide bladed city plows made and least one pass on back streets so you could dig out.

They kept the main streets very passable for emergency vehicles. Since Buffalo’s snow season started early (15 November) they trained other cities in the northeast.
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10 Jan 2018, 02:35 #91

Parking bans and what to do with cars is not a problem that is unique to Gloucester by any means.  Boston makes the local news channels regularly with parking ban stories.  Check the web sites and local news outlets for the cities of Beverly and Salem.  It is life in New England (and I'm sure elsewhere).

Storm forecasts frequently include coastal flood warnings.  I think that sometimes we become numb to the warnings because they often do not materialize to the extent forecasted (forecasters seemed to love the "king tide" thing - for a news cycle or two).  Every couple of decades or so, we get surprised.  Folks in the high school area have parked their cars there for years without a problem - now they know and unfortunately learned the hard way.  I can't say that if I lived in the area and parking my car in that lot was a routine thing for me during a ban that I would not have parked my car there last week.

@Dun Fudgin made a great point about the stadium being raised about 3' during the rebuild, forcing water to pond in the parking lot.  Who knew?  

I agree with William - life is different than it was when many houses were built.  More cars, more dependence on cars.  Lordy, I remember the days when I lived in a Boston neighborhood - you left your car on the street, it got plowed in (sometimes to the roof) and you spent a good part of the next day shoveling out your car.

California burned and now people are dying because of raging rain causing massive mudflows created by the aftermath of the fires.  Perspective.
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10 Jan 2018, 13:43 #92

Real estate tip of the week: BUy houses with lots of parking!

William I don't get what you are saying about the elderly and groceries and all that.  We have a very old, congested and tightly built downtown with lots of ancient houses with more and more apartments...and more and more cars. The parking problem is just like so many other north shore cities. And there is no room for new houses, and not a lot of houses suddenly for sale with big parking lots.

And your solution  is, let's everybody buy houses with lots of parking from now on? No comprendo.
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11 Jan 2018, 00:00 #93

moro wrote: Real estate tip of the week: BUy houses with lots of parking!

William I don't get what you are saying about the elderly and groceries and all that.  We have a very old, congested and tightly built downtown with lots of ancient houses with more and more apartments...and more and more cars. The parking problem is just like so many other north shore cities. And there is no room for new houses, and not a lot of houses suddenly for sale with big parking lots.

And your solution  is, let's everybody buy houses with lots of parking from now on? No comprendo.
My solution is for cities to buy or take over derelict or other properties in congested neighborhood and create lots for parking. Not expensive relative to what we spend on the municipal efforts, schools, pensions, public works, etc., and the city could even charge a modest affordable fee. You make parking lots in different neighborhoods, line them with a few trees and flower beds and you have a neighborhood asset that could help everyone and pay for any maintenance with the fees. It would raise the value of the neighborhood homes enriching the city slightly and enable young families that need two cars to be able to live downtown in those neighborhoods.
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11 Jan 2018, 00:25 #94

Derelict properties in Gloucester? This is not Detroit. Real estate here is increasingly expensive and a run down property is likely to be snapped up for condos or a mcmansion. By the way raising the value of homes in a neighborhood only benefits those who sell and leave. The ones who stay are simply entitled to pay higher real estate taxes.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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11 Jan 2018, 01:06 #95

Let’s keep in mind that street parking, while not as convenient as on site, is still workable. It is only during snow emergencies that it can get really troublesome.
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11 Jan 2018, 06:03 #96

William where are the derelict properties exactly? Can you name one? are they occupied by non-upwardly mobile people who you think should be gotten rid of anyhow?
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11 Jan 2018, 08:15 #97

moro wrote: William where are the derelict properties exactly? Can you name one? are they occupied by non-upwardly mobile people who you think should be gotten rid of anyhow?
Maplewood School, Fuller School, Cameron's , I4-C2.....
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11 Jan 2018, 11:39 #98

Now you're talkin!  I thought William was talking about unsightly residences where non-upwardly mobile people lurk around.
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11 Jan 2018, 13:40 #99

I think that is exactly what he was talking about.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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11 Jan 2018, 14:05 #100

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?  
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