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January 11th, 2018, 9:55 am #101

Damon wrote:By the way raising the value of homes in a neighborhood only benefits those who sell and leave. The ones who stay are simply entitled to pay higher real estate taxes.
This is too simplistic. If a family stays in a house for a long time - then they are far less likely to have a mortgage on it (unless they keep re-financing) - which balances out the increase in taxes - which, btw, EVERYBODY carries the burden of, as rents increase to cover the increased taxes.
Further balanced by the benefits we all get that are paid for by those increased taxes. Taxes sure aren't being raised for the benefit of anyone but all of us.
Almost everybody sells eventually - and make out like bandits living in Gloucester South/Florida!

*This is not an invitation for the usual suspects to pull out the same old anti-tax arguments Start another damn thread for that, please.
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January 11th, 2018, 9:58 am #102

Dun Fudgin wrote:
moro wrote:William where are the derelict properties exactly? Can you name one? are they occupied by non-upwardly mobile people who you think should be gotten rid of anyhow?
Maplewood School, Fuller School, Cameron's , I4-C2.....
Most houses on Maplewood have off-street parking. NEXT?
How many downtown house residents would drag their asses up to and back from a Fuller parking lot?!

Notwithstanding all that - a municipal parking garage (not just a lot) somewhere downtown, would be a boost to the city on a number of levels.

On a bigger scale, though (and this applies to all cities) subsidized better and more frequent public transportation is a must for our futures). Who owns a car in NYC?!  Portland, OR has had a lot of success with good FREE public bus and tram services.
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January 11th, 2018, 10:35 am #103

I agree with BI about public transportation. There is a tipping point where people do not need their own car any more and can rent one for their rare trips outside the reach of handy public transportation. We with our hours between buses and no Sunday or supper time service are nowhere near that point. When I lived in Delft, Netherlands I felt no need for a car except on those really nasty rainy, snowy, windy days (when I would have had to dig the car out anyway). On my street there was a tram, a railroad station, and bus service, all headed either toward Rotterdam or the Hague. There was no need for a schedule, they left every little while. Cambridge Mass was the same way, but here, no way. Those who do not use the bus here like local politicians do not even seem to understand the problem. You can only get downtown and back at carefully chosen hours. They claim to offer service up toward Blackburn medical and Market Basket, but if you have to change from Lanesville or West or East G or whatever to the local bus, it becomes an impracticality due to the hours between buses. We really need to give the matter some attention. I also wonder if it is worth the trouble of  collecting fares at all. Addressing that issue would make a huge difference in our need for parking with every apartment.
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January 11th, 2018, 1:32 pm #104

sugarmagnolia wrote: Let’s keep in mind that street parking, while not as convenient as on site, is still workable.  It is only during snow emergencies that it can get really troublesome.
YES.

I’m wondering what the option are?

I’m sure other towns/cities work snow removal such that a large number of cars are NOT moved clear across a city.
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January 11th, 2018, 11:27 pm #105

Apparently the Good Harbor Beach foot bridge is reopened.

Temp tomorrow above 50F, but good chance of rain.
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January 12th, 2018, 7:14 am #106

sugarmagnolia wrote: Let’s keep in mind that street parking, while not as convenient as on site, is still workable.  It is only during snow emergencies that it can get really troublesome.
I did a little research and below you can find snow emergencies regulations for Buffalo and Niagara

Buffalo’s population has taken a huge cut and now stands at 100,000. These cities are very knowledgeable and train how to attach snow removal.

I do think Gloucester could call the mayor’s office of say Buffalo and get advice: Amherst, Elwood and other smaller villages make up Buffalo - these have there own snow emergency rules. Which I think would apply to a Magnolia, the Fort, PR of Lanesville - having different rules as well.

Looks like the walks are getting cleared of snow as per the rules.

http://www.niagara-gazette.com/news/loc ... 4d0d3.html

In brackets is a quote from above artivle about Niagara NY snow removal.

[Beginning Dec.1, the rules for alternative overnight parking will be adjusted from 3 a.m. through 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. through 7 a.m. That means the cars must be moved to the appropriate side of the street by 11 p.m. and remain there until 7 a.m. the next day. Vehicles parked on the wrong sides of streets during the winter hours could be ticketed. In severe cases where vehicles are obstructing DPW or emergency crews, the city can also have vehicles towed. 

"Our midnight shift starts at 11 p.m.," city Public Works Director John Caso said. "So we want to get into the side streets and (the time change) gives us a three hour longer window to tackle the snow. I think it will help our snow removal. It will get us into the side streets sooner."]]

Buffalo’s Parking Regulations are based on Bus Routes and alternate side parking on certain side streets - below

https://nextdoor.com/agency-post/ny/buf ... -71083253/
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January 12th, 2018, 8:45 am #107

alternate side parking seems to be the best fit here. but it must be enforced 100%
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January 12th, 2018, 9:22 am #108

NightStalker wrote: alternate side parking seems to be the best fit here. but it must be enforced 100%
Thanks “Night” I had meant to reference your earlier post too.

Maybe the GPD talking with the Buffalo PD?
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January 12th, 2018, 1:08 pm #109

Damon wrote: I agree with BI about public transportation. There is a tipping point where people do not need their own car any more and can rent one for their rare trips outside the reach of handy public transportation. We with our hours between buses and no Sunday or supper time service are nowhere near that point. When I lived in Delft, Netherlands I felt no need for a car except on those really nasty rainy, snowy, windy days (when I would have had to dig the car out anyway). On my street there was a tram, a railroad station, and bus service, all headed either toward Rotterdam or the Hague. There was no need for a schedule, they left every little while. Cambridge Mass was the same way, but here, no way. Those who do not use the bus here like local politicians do not even seem to understand the problem. You can only get downtown and back at carefully chosen hours. They claim to offer service up toward Blackburn medical and Market Basket, but if you have to change from Lanesville or West or East G or whatever to the local bus, it becomes an impracticality due to the hours between buses. We really need to give the matter some attention. I also wonder if it is worth the trouble of  collecting fares at all. Addressing that issue would make a huge difference in our need for parking with every apartment.
I agree, however CATA operates at a loss.  Increased service would cause higher taxes. Are you willing to pay?
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January 12th, 2018, 9:23 pm #110

I would be willing to pay for a real quantum jump in improvement because I would no longer need a car. When the family really needed to go someplace off the public transportation grid  we could easily rent a car for far less than owning a car costs. Loan payments and insurance and repairs and excise taxes etc add up to quite a few rental car days. By a real quantum jump I mean getting beyond just increasing the number of runs a bit. I mean Sunday and dinner time buses and enough of them so you do not have to plan your day around them and making it easy to change for places such as up around Fuller and Blackburn. We would need to get beyond that tipping point where most people would not bother with individual cars any more.
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January 13th, 2018, 12:21 am #111

The city of Beverly and the MBTA sponsor a fairly robust CATA (yes CATA) bus schedule from 6:45 to past 5PM. (It would be nice if 7PM) for 50¢ and 25¢ seniors. It goes all over BEVERLY and repeats on the hour. Perhaps Applied Materials and Gortons could kick in for a better schedule as Damon posted.

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[see 6:45 - 7:45 AM]
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY
AM PM
Bridge St. Variety Store 7 45 8 45 9 45 10 45 11 45 12 45 2 45 3 45 4 45
Federal Street 7 50 8 50 9 50 10 50 11 50 12 50 2 50 3 50 4 50
Commuter Rail Station 7 52 8 52 9 52 10 52 11 52 12 52 2 52 3 52 4 52
Rantoul & Edwards Sts. 7 54 8 54 9 54 10 54 11 54 12 54 2 54 3 54 4 54
Cabot St. & Highland Ave. 7 57 8 57 9 57 10 57 11 57 12 57 2 57 3 57 4 57
City Hall 8 00 9 00 10 00 11 00 12 00 1 00 3 00 4 00 5 00
arrive North Beverly Plaza — — — — — 1 10 — — —
depart North Beverly Plaza — — — — — 2 10 — — —
Cabot & Elliott Streets 8 02 9 02 10 02 11 02 12 02 — 3 02 4 02
Cabot & Rantoul Streets 8 04 9 04 10 04 11 04 12 04 — 3 04 4 04
Garden City Apartments 8 07 9 07 10 07 11 07 12 07 — 3 07 4 07
Cabot & Simon Streets 8 09 9 09 10 09 11 09 12 09 — 3 09 4 09
Balch Street Apartments 8 12 9 12 10 12 11 12 12 12 2 12 3 12 4 12
Beverly Hospital 8 20 9 20 10 20 11 20 12 20 2 20 3 20 4 20
Herrick St. & Brimbal Ave. 8 21 9 21 10 21 11 21 12 21 2 21 3 21 4 21
Essex St. & Kelleher Apts. 8 22 9 22 10 22 11 22 12 22 2 22 3 22 4 22
Turtle Creek Apartments 8 24 9 24 10 24 11 24 12 24 2 24 3 24 4 24
Turtle Woods Apartments. 8 25 9 25 10 25 11 25 12 25 2 25 3 25 4 25
YMCA 8 26 9 26 10 26 11 26 12 26 2 26 3 26 4 26
Cedar Street Apartments 8 30 9 30 10 30 11 30 12 30 2 30 3 30 4 30
Montserrat Commuter Rail 8 31 9 31 10 31 11 31 12 31 2 31 3 31 4 31
Council on Aging 8 34 9 34 10 34 11 34 12 34 2 34 3 34 4 34
Gloucester Crossing 8 35 9 35 10 35 11 35 12 35 2 35 3 35 4 35
Rantoul & Elliott Streets 8 37 9 37 10 37 11 37 12 37 2 37 3 37 4 37
Cummings Center 8 39 9 39 10 39 11 39 12 39 2 39 3 39 4 39
Stop & Shop Supermarkets 8 41 9 41 10 41 11 41 12 41 2 41 3 41 4 41
Elliott St. & Glodsmith Ave. 8 43 9 43 10 43 11 43 12 43 2 43 3 43 4 43
Bridge Street Variety Store 8 45 9 45 10 45 11 45 12 45 2 45 3 45 4 45
YELLOW LINE City of BEVERLY Shuttle See Fares & Holidays (see MON-FRI)
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January 13th, 2018, 12:50 am #112

I still hitch hike... but rarely. Maybe they’ll be a safe UBER type app called THUMBER?

In 1972 I visited Seattle WA for a few days to learn that hitch hiking was an encouraged form of public transportation. Can you hitch in Netherlands - Damon???

Toronto has always been a good city for walking, biking, driving and public transportation. I thoughts bicyclusts do well there but critics don’t praise much.

The zillion or so of Boston/Cambridge bikes sponsored by NB/Jim Davis seem to be working okay. The Hotel offers them to guests for mostly backshore excursions it seems. I’ve never rented anywhere.

Taxis are okay - points downtown are less that $3 for seniors - but at $25 round trip - is the same as a day rental at Enterprise!
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January 13th, 2018, 7:09 am #113

I never noticed anyone hitchhiking in the Netherlands although I suspect it happens. Biking is easy there and there are bike trails all over the place.
Yes, Beverly bus service is pretty good and it works out great if going from Lanesville to the Gloucester depot, train to Beverly, bus to the Beverly Hospital. Sometimes you even get a Gloucester driver on the Beverly bus :) The bus is fine for the downtown Beverly YMCA but not so for the Sterling Center. That may have been fixed since I see the YMCA listed on your schedule now. I assume that means the Sterling Center. The Y in Gloucester is planning a move to make our Y similarly inaccessible.
However to meet my theoretical requirements at least early evening (so you can eat supper or go to a meeting downtown) and Sunday service must be included. It has to cross the boundary into the region where owning a car is a waste of money.
Edit:
A Google search tells me that hitching is legal in the Netherlands except on major highways and is common there.
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January 13th, 2018, 8:22 am #114

Toronto is great for trains/trams/busses AND cycling. But then, the Canadians are better at many thing, aren't they?
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January 13th, 2018, 9:01 am #115

By the way, raising the value of homes in a neighborhood only benefits those who sell and leave. The ones who stay are simply entitled to pay higher real estate taxes.

you are right and it sucks haven't done any work to my house and it is older and the taxes keep going up. so we get to pay a high mortgage and higher taxes for what?
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January 13th, 2018, 9:02 am #116

gloman wrote:
Damon wrote: I agree with BI about public transportation. There is a tipping point where people do not need their own car any more and can rent one for their rare trips outside the reach of handy public transportation. We with our hours between buses and no Sunday or supper time service are nowhere near that point. When I lived in Delft, Netherlands I felt no need for a car except on those really nasty rainy, snowy, windy days (when I would have had to dig the car out anyway). On my street there was a tram, a railroad station, and bus service, all headed either toward Rotterdam or the Hague. There was no need for a schedule, they left every little while. Cambridge Mass was the same way, but here, no way. Those who do not use the bus here like local politicians do not even seem to understand the problem. You can only get downtown and back at carefully chosen hours. They claim to offer service up toward Blackburn medical and Market Basket, but if you have to change from Lanesville or West or East G or whatever to the local bus, it becomes an impracticality due to the hours between buses. We really need to give the matter some attention. I also wonder if it is worth the trouble of  collecting fares at all. Addressing that issue would make a huge difference in our need for parking with every apartment.
I agree, however CATA operates at a loss.  Increased service would cause higher taxes. Are you willing to pay?
from what I have heard it is a very very large loss.
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January 15th, 2018, 8:40 am #117

tyu12 wrote: By the way, raising the value of homes in a neighborhood only benefits those who sell and leave. The ones who stay are simply entitled to pay higher real estate taxes.

you are right and it sucks haven't done any work to my house and it is older and the taxes keep going up. so we get to pay a high mortgage and higher taxes for what?
Why do you have a "high" mortgage....how long have you been there, and how much have your taxes increased since you bought the place? What you get for it is all the services that this and any other city provides for its people; meanwhile your property has increased in value. If you never leave - well, then - you'll own it outright at some point and then be able to leave it to your kids. Sounds like a win to me.
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January 24th, 2018, 10:00 am #118

What you get for it is all the services that this and any other city provides for its people;

I don't have any children in the school system 
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January 24th, 2018, 11:15 am #119

tyu12 wrote: What you get for it is all the services that this and any other city provides for its people;

I don't have any children in the school system
And if your house has never caught fire - then you shouldn't want to pay for the FD then, either.  ('Baiter)
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January 24th, 2018, 1:29 pm #120

battlingignorance wrote:
tyu12 wrote: What you get for it is all the services that this and any other city provides for its people;

I don't have any children in the school system
And if your house has never caught fire - then you shouldn't want to pay for the FD then, either.  ('Baiter)
you are the baiter you know that the majority of money from the city side of the budget and school budget goes to the schools.
   the fire dept has been beefed up I would like to see the DPW and the police also beefed up but with all the money going to the charter school st ann's etc it will never happen.
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