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DM3194
Joined: 07 Feb 2008, 22:54

08 Nov 2017, 02:51 #41

Voters in Salem, Massachusetts supported their status as a "Sanctuary City."

Democrat Governors in VA and NJ.
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

08 Nov 2017, 02:56 #42

What a great night!  I am happy with the whole at-large slate and of course especially Jen Holmgren whose celebration is underway.   She is happy and grateful and so ready to be a wonderful councilor.  And good news from elections farther away.  Cheers!
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Matisse
Joined: 21 Aug 2007, 02:17

08 Nov 2017, 04:53 #43

Orlando’s sister’s antics cost him his council seat.

LeBlanc’s and Nolan’s endorsements of Orlando and Giacalone were ineffective.
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Dianne Eason
Joined: 25 Mar 2011, 14:26

08 Nov 2017, 05:12 #44

Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.

What a sad loss for Gloucester to not have him on the Council going forth.
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Leland33
Joined: 02 Apr 2011, 03:07

08 Nov 2017, 07:03 #45

There's alway 2019 for those that didn't make it.

The first movie I saw was "Singing on the Rain" in 1953 - my parents brought us when we were little kids.  I was lucky to have thoughtful parents, my dad would have been 100 this Sunday.


In the theater we were only a few rows back and the movie was yuuuuuge to me - a four year old.  The theater must have been packed.

As a family we rarely saw movies - out -,by this one was uplifting and a message even a little kid could get.
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drinkycrow
Joined: 10 May 2007, 13:48

08 Nov 2017, 07:08 #46

Dianne Eason wrote: Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.

What a sad loss for Gloucester to not have him on the Council going forth.
She was his campaign manager. Just sayin.' 
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DM3194
Joined: 07 Feb 2008, 22:54

08 Nov 2017, 09:59 #47

Everybody has a right to grieve when their favorite candidate loses, but there was nothing disgusting about the vote.
I hate it when right of the bat someone on a losing side harps on the unfairness of it all!

If a candidate didn't make the cut in the at-Large race, it's simply because of the strong field.
We had some very high energy, positive candidates... and seven people running very hard.

Cox
Lundberg
Holmgren
O'Hara

I don't recall a first-time candidate ever doing as well as Jen Holmgren. She was not many votes shy of being the top vote-getter!
And Melissa Cox tops the race in her first city-wide run! These are both historically rare things.
Two incumbents, and a former incumbent, were ousted by new blood.   This was a real changeover vote.
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A side note: Identifying with the Republican Party, or Democratic Party for that matter, when running for city office in Gloucester seems unwise.
Lining up with the big parties does nothing but conjur up dark issues that are generally not on the front burner in Gloucester. 
The literature I receive in the mail from State Republican organizations is absolutely toxic to the candidates supposedly being supported by the mailing!
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Congratulations and thanks to everyone for running!
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Dun Fudgin
Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 03:54

08 Nov 2017, 10:33 #48

Dianne Eason wrote: Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.

What a sad loss for Gloucester to not have him on the Council going forth.
Her actions( WP tombstone media blitz) certainly didn't help his campaign and that's a shame. But I firmly believe if Amanda made a sincere apology to the city maybe he would have been re-elected.
BTW I met with Jen Holmgren for the 1st time a few hour before I voted. I'm glad I did we had very similar opinions on several topics and that sealed the one councilor spot I was undecided on.
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Martin Del Vecchio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 00:25

08 Nov 2017, 12:06 #49

Dianne Eason wrote: Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.
The voters can decide however they want, Dianne.  They don't have to conform to your restrictions.
And it's telling you refer to the fact that Amanda Kesterson, the perpetrator of this nonsense, as his sister, but not as his campaign manager.  He posted on his campaign page that he stood by his sister 100%, but was silent on whether he stood by her actions.  

That makes her damaging actions 100% relevant.  The voters of Gloucester are clear on this, and you are on the wrong side of them.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

08 Nov 2017, 12:09 #50

Dun Fudgin wrote:Wynott, Ciolino and Orlando out. Looks like the WP tombstone Republican Media blitz by Orlando's campaign manager did him in.
I wonder which way the SEVENTY-NINE people she painstakingly tagged in her FB tombstone post, voted?
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

08 Nov 2017, 12:11 #51

Dianne Eason wrote:Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.

What a sad loss for Gloucester to not have him on the Council going forth.
Disgustingly sad and clueless post.
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

08 Nov 2017, 13:39 #52

DM3194 wrote: A side note: Identifying with the Republican Party, or Democratic Party for that matter, when running for city office in Gloucester seems unwise.
Lining up with the big parties does nothing but conjur up dark issues that are generally not on the front burner in Gloucester. 
I completely agree.

When the Lt. Gov. and some national committeeman are in town stumping for a council candidate, it is just not feeling like a local election.  Same thing happened in Beverly - a four-year incumbent city councilor who ran as a party's chosen one, is likely out (it was close and last I read there may be a recount for that last Council seat).

I think Orlando did a good job with the amendment to start sorting out the affordable housing stock numbers.  I did not agree with his position on the Fuller housing issue.

Cox, Holmgren and Lundberg kind of disappointed me with their responses to the pot shop issue.  O'Hara and Orlando started their response with something like "the people have spoken/voted."  While I don't know if they may have wanted to zone/regulate the retail to a point of it not being feasible, I did appreciate the attitude.

That, and and other local issues, is why I was still wavering in the voting booth and what decided my choices - nothing else.
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elliegal
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 14:22

08 Nov 2017, 13:47 #53

DM3194 wrote: Everybody has a right to grieve when their favorite candidate loses, but there was nothing disgusting about the vote.
I hate it when right of the bat someone on a losing side harps on the unfairness of it all!

If a candidate didn't make the cut in the at-Large race, it's simply because of the strong field.
We had some very high energy, positive candidates... and seven people running very hard.

Cox
Lundberg
Holmgren
O'Hara

I don't recall a first-time candidate ever doing as well as Jen Holmgren. She was not many votes shy of being the top vote-getter!
And Melissa Cox tops the race in her first city-wide run! These are both historically rare things.
Two incumbents, and a former incumbent, were ousted by new blood.   This was a real changeover vote.
.....................................................
A side note: Identifying with the Republican Party, or Democratic Party for that matter, when running for city office in Gloucester seems unwise.
Lining up with the big parties does nothing but conjur up dark issues that are generally not on the front burner in Gloucester. 
The literature I receive in the mail from State Republican organizations is absolutely toxic to the candidates supposedly being supported by the mailing!
....................................................

Congratulations and thanks to everyone for running!
Good summary - totally agree with you.
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battlingignorance
Joined: 01 Sep 2012, 12:06

08 Nov 2017, 13:50 #54

I believe Ken Hecht is going to be a positive influence on the council...he knows his stuff - and may well bring some credible push-back to the Windover/Fuller shenanigans (which he has already been doing on the committee). Hopefully he will put to rest the constant local knee-jerking about "developers" and "condos" being apocalyptic mare-riders.

Positivity and progressivism seemed to succeed almost everywhere last night, not just here.
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

08 Nov 2017, 15:45 #55

Nice work by the City's IT Department and the City Clerk's Office for putting up the public Google doc making real-time results available to the public.  It was pretty cool to be able to watch the results come in like that.
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Karly
Joined: 20 Feb 2010, 02:12

08 Nov 2017, 15:51 #56

That was very cool! 
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DM3194
Joined: 07 Feb 2008, 22:54

08 Nov 2017, 16:07 #57

But I kind of miss the olden days when Fred Kyrouz would shuffle to the microphone.
A hush would fall over the room, and everyone would strain to hear him  as he whispered 
the results from each precinct.
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Cathy (Admin)
Joined: 13 Aug 2005, 09:30

08 Nov 2017, 16:35 #58

Right? I was remembering being at a candidate's election night thing at Cameron's when runners were going to City Hall and coming back to Cameron's with results, ward by ward.  More exciting, but there is something to be said for being in your pj's with a glass of wine watching the results, lol.  Could be an age thing ...
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LenPal
Joined: 11 May 2010, 00:13

08 Nov 2017, 17:32 #59

Dianne Eason wrote: Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.

What a sad loss for Gloucester to not have him on the Council going forth.
I don't think anyone held Orlando responsible for his sister's actions. I think they held him responsible for his campaign manager's actions.

There's a difference.
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LenPal
Joined: 11 May 2010, 00:13

08 Nov 2017, 17:34 #60

Martin Del Vecchio wrote:
Dianne Eason wrote: Regardless of whether you agreed with Amanda or not, what a disgustingly sad commentary that ANYONE felt the need to hold her brother responsible for something he had nothing to do with.
The voters can decide however they want, Dianne.  They don't have to conform to your restrictions.
And it's telling you refer to the fact that Amanda Kesterson, the perpetrator of this nonsense, as his sister, but not as his campaign manager.  He posted on his campaign page that he stood by his sister 100%, but was silent on whether he stood by her actions.  

That makes her damaging actions 100% relevant.  The voters of Gloucester are clear on this, and you are on the wrong side of them.
Marty said it better than I did. So yeah, this.
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