Joined: August 13th, 2005, 5:30 am

March 21st, 2018, 8:41 pm #41

From my FB ad info:

About Bottle
You have this preference because you clicked on an ad related to Bottle.

(There is no brand, company, page - just generic bottle.)

About Gloucestershire Constabulary
You have this preference because you liked a Page related to Gloucestershire Constabulary.

(Pretty sure I didn't, lol.)

The best:  I get ads about United States Congress because I clicked on an ad related to United States Congress:


congressDD.jpg


I guess the country really does run on Dunkin's ... :-)
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March 21st, 2018, 8:48 pm #42

Evil Zuck is coming up on Anderson Cooper tonight.
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 9:12 pm

March 28th, 2018, 7:25 am #43

This article from the U.K. Guardian today tells you how to protect your data and how to find out what has already been collected on you from FB and Google.  It is basic and straightforward.

I didn't realize that "personalized pricing" was a thing...using info about where you live, etc, to offer you an online price that they think you will pay.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... are_btn_fb
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Joined: August 28th, 2007, 12:19 am

March 28th, 2018, 8:02 am #44

This is an interesting look at Facebook and Google's participation in one's life. Click on "....K people are talking..." to get full thread.

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Joined: September 27th, 2005, 12:41 am

March 28th, 2018, 2:47 pm #45

Karly wrote: Something else I am doing is shutting FB off when I'm not using it rather than leaving it on "in the background".  I found that ads for items I had recently been looking at buying online started popping up in FB.
That's not going to help. FB will still be able to read those cookies. And it's not just them.
"...the problem with pounding a square peg into a round hole is not that the hammering is hard work. It's that you're destroying the peg." ."

-Paul Collins


    
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Joined: September 27th, 2005, 12:41 am

March 28th, 2018, 2:52 pm #46

I am having the hardest time figuring out if there is anything illegal going on here. We've known for years that our data was being harvested particularly by Mark "privacy is dead" Zuckerberg and all those quizzes. We've known that FB manipulates your settings while not being entirely transparent about what they've done this time.

I saw, on Twitter I think, that Cambridge Analytica also had RNC databases they were working with and that was supposed to be a big deal, but I can't figure out what part of evil and unethical is actually illegal.
"...the problem with pounding a square peg into a round hole is not that the hammering is hard work. It's that you're destroying the peg." ."

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March 28th, 2018, 2:52 pm #47

Island Annie wrote:
Karly wrote: Something else I am doing is shutting FB off when I'm not using it rather than leaving it on "in the background".  I found that ads for items I had recently been looking at buying online started popping up in FB.
That's not going to help. FB will still be able to read those cookies. And it's not just them.
Yeah...see #15 and #17 ... clearing cookies won't stop a lot of it.
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March 28th, 2018, 2:55 pm #48

Island Annie wrote: I am having the hardest time figuring out if there is anything illegal going on here. We've known for years that our data was being harvested particularly by Mark "privacy is dead" Zuckerberg and all those quizzes. We've known that FB manipulates your settings while not being entirely transparent about what they've done this time.

I saw, on Twitter I think, that Cambridge Analytica also had RNC databases they were working with and that was supposed to be a big deal, but I can't figure out what part of evil and unethical is actually illegal.
One thing I've read that really bothers me is that if you use FB on your phone it collects your texts and calling history.  No one would agree to that (or hardly anyone) so if it was somewhere in one of those long agreements that people sign and not highlighted that seems at the very least unethical.
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Joined: June 25th, 2007, 6:00 pm

March 28th, 2018, 7:28 pm #49

They are welcome to my texts and calling history. They can help arrange to get everyone to hockey games all over creation and get the grand kids to school and then they can help me go run sailboat races. Off hand I can not think of any classified data in my phoning or texting. It would bore them to tears.
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?...   ..........
 George Orwell , 1984
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March 28th, 2018, 7:32 pm #50

I was thinking how boring mine would be too, Damon. I really hate the phone and have always used it as little as possible...I am an internet person. That isn't the point, of course. The point is that FB has no reason to know who we call or text or what we say.
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March 28th, 2018, 9:13 pm #51

Though I make an exception for phonebanking!  Still do not love it tbough.
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April 10th, 2018, 6:41 pm #52

Fascinating so far...Mark Zuckerberg's testimony before Congress.  I posted about it in Trump thread but should have been here.

 I took some time off to watch this today because it could result in government regulation in the U.S. of  internet (1) ads (likely), (2) privacy (I hope) and (3) monopoly (no idea what they will do with that!)
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April 10th, 2018, 8:50 pm #53

I watched some of it, until I couldn't take Zuckerberg's "So" and "I'll have my team follow up with you" any longer, lol.

The fake news thing is an issue for me - not just that it exists, but that people (and there are many whom I love dearly) think that anything that they read online is truth.  I'm not sure that anyone can fix that.

IMO, they are certainly culpable regarding the lax oversight of third-party apps.  On the other hand, the question is often asked, "Who reads the fine print before clicking on the "I agree" and I want to scream, "YOU SHOULD!"

I was watching when he was asked about the Meuller investigation, though ...
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April 10th, 2018, 8:58 pm #54

In general...(he will be famous for that!)...the internet needs oversight beyond those making huge sums of money off it. Strange this is his first time in front of Congress.
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April 10th, 2018, 9:18 pm #55

How do you regulate such a ginormous amount of content like on FB? Diamond and Silk were deemed by Facebook to post content that is "unsafe."  Oh, boy - they are two ladies that you do not want to piss off, lol.  I don't agree with a single view that they espouse, but I think that they rock and could watch them all day long and certainly don't think that their content is unsafe.

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Joined: March 30th, 2007, 12:27 am

April 11th, 2018, 10:17 pm #56

There really is not much privacy any longer. All of those "cookies" on your computer follow your every move not just Facebook. Yup, your cellphone knows where you are and I think it knows quite a bit even when it is turned off. Most cars now have tracking devices and know where you have been and some even every stop you have made.
Retail shops and cities and towns have cameras looking at you in every nook and cranny and satellite camera resolution can spot a bottle of wine in a person's hand.
The only thing that bothers me is that when I search for something and have bought it, ads keep popping up trying to sell it to me a month afterwards...I guess soon they will know when and where I have purchased it and it will go away....now if they can accurately track those menacing asteroids and when the super volcanos are going to blow that would be desirable but til then we have to put up with it.  Facebook has helped hundreds of millions, billions actually, keep in touch with each other and with causes and subjects they are interested in. About 250,000 new people join it every day so it must be something that people will still find useful to them in life.
You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give..
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April 11th, 2018, 10:28 pm #57

Exactly, William. The only way to stop your cell phone from being tracked is to turn it off and take out the battery. Now the new phones don't even have removable batteries. Hmm, I wonder why?
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Joined: August 11th, 2007, 12:04 am

April 12th, 2018, 8:55 am #58

So I downloaded my facebook info.

Now I never use facebook, never bother to friend people, my immediate family and a few friends
My browser is set to do not track
cookies delete end of session, no third party etc
blur tracking software

If i want to contact people, I call them or email or text them

so they have..................nothing...............

bunch of IP addresses

hundred advertisers have my contact info...which is a crap email I use for crap

I actually feel better about using facebook............

I think to be better I would have started using a facebook only email address.

myfacebookemail@yahoo.com or somesuch. 

never use it for anything else.

I could set my phone to check it......
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