Scum of the Earth

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Scum of the Earth

Ed Storey
Ed Storey

November 24th, 2007, 9:30 pm #1

Okay all you collector scum, the misguided medals for sale issue rears its ugly head one more time. I scanned this from the 24 November edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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November 25th, 2007, 2:16 pm #2

Ed, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will be writing Mr. Stoffer a letter.

I deleted a response to your post. I don't wish for my forum to be a place where personal insults are tolerated, even with regards to someone as misguided as Mr. Stoffer. I trust all will understand. I encourage discussion of this issue, but simple name-calling will not achieve anything, and at worst, simply reflects poorly on the collectors community. I would advise anyone wishing to write Mr. Stoffer to stick to the facts and avoid angry outbursts that will only serve to derail meaningful conversation.

I strongly suggest that others write to Mr. Stoffer as well, in addition to the Citizen.
Michael Dorosh
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November 25th, 2007, 2:28 pm #3

Mr. Stoffer;

I noted with dismay your comments in the November 24 issue of the Ottawa Citizen. I am aghast that you would refer to medal collectors as "scum of the earth." Particularly since you are so personally misguided, even if well-intentioned.

The fact remains that medals and insignia are not public property. I had thought the men that fought against Facism, Nazism, Communism and other unsavoury modes of government did so in order to preserve for us a unique way of life founded in democracy, capitalism, and freedom. Not only do you apparently disagree, but you insult people who cherish such ideals with language better suited for the gutter.

I have served honourably in the Canadian Forces for 20 years and have been decorated three times. My medals are precious to me, but when I pass on, I hope that they will be retained by someone to whom they have meaning. I have no children, no heirs to pass them on to. I could donate them to the regimental museum, who will already have a drawerful of the common awards I currently possess. The odds of them ever going on public display in such a circumstance are nil. They would simply sit in storage in perpetuity.

If some collector out there found value in them, I can think of nothing better than for him to be able to obtain my medals. If he was willing to pay for them, I think that would only speak to his willingness to care for and preserve them, as they would have been invested with a monetary value set by his willingness to pay. He would be able to display them for others, and a part of me would live on in respect and dignity.

The alternative you propose is to make the sale of medals illegal, which would mean that when thousands of men and women like me pass on, there will be no means of preservation for the medals. They will simply be thrown into the garbage as valueless, or go into storage at a local museum, never to be seen again. There would be no other option.

Please stop your immature and distracting crusade. As a published author who has written extensively on the subject of the Canadian Army, I find your behaviour offensive and an insult to all those, like me, who have ever proudly worn this nation's uniform and been presented with visible proof of appreciation of that service in the form of medals, decorations and insignia of orders.

Michael Dorosh
Calgary, Alberta
www.canadiansoldiers.com
Michael Dorosh
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November 25th, 2007, 9:45 pm #4

The only thing I might add to a letter is that it has been my experience that the vast majority of the people I know and deal with are either currently serving or Veterans of the Armed Forces. In some cases they are the children of service members or are young people interested in serving in the Armed Forces when they are older. "Professional types" looking to make excess profits are few and far between in my experience.
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Ed Storey
Ed Storey

November 26th, 2007, 3:24 pm #5

Okay all you collector scum, the misguided medals for sale issue rears its ugly head one more time. I scanned this from the 24 November edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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From the 26 November edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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Bill A
Bill A

November 26th, 2007, 5:02 pm #6

Okay, lets pursue this to its logical conclusion.
There is no point in awarding medals, either for service or gallantry, because at some point the individual who was recognized will not own them. Instead, lets simply tell the service man or women that they got the awards, and then simply forward all the medals to the War Museum. That should resolve the issue.
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Michael
Michael

November 26th, 2007, 5:36 pm #7

..could easily educate the good NDP member on the value that collectors have in the preservation of these artifacts...Afterall,The Prime Minister's father, Joe was one of the best known military collectors in the country.
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Jaime Cline
Jaime Cline

November 26th, 2007, 7:03 pm #8

And not to mention that Mr. Harper's brother is also a collector.....

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Ed Storey
Ed Storey

November 28th, 2007, 2:16 pm #9

Okay all you collector scum, the misguided medals for sale issue rears its ugly head one more time. I scanned this from the 24 November edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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This was published yesterday in the 27 November edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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Bill
Bill

November 28th, 2007, 8:03 pm #10

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