Kangaroos recognized Sept. 10 at Wilson Avenue Armoury

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Kangaroos recognized Sept. 10 at Wilson Avenue Armoury

Michael Reintjes
Michael Reintjes

September 11th, 2011, 8:47 pm #1

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Clive M. Law - Service Publications
Clive M. Law - Service Publications

September 11th, 2011, 9:49 pm #2

Well done to the organizers. Looks like a great success and the old 'Roos certainly look pleased.
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Roger Lucy
Roger Lucy

September 12th, 2011, 12:49 am #3

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I am very happy to see 1CACR so honoured, but a having real Canadian Kangaroo there would have been nicer still. According to Ram Tank. CT40872: "ca Oct 1944, shown as a Cruiser, held by 153 Field Regiment, R.A. (loan)" I doubt if it was ever returned, Canadian Kangaroos began with CT159406, so most Canadian (unlike British) Kangaroos lacked the auxiliary turret.
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Ed Storey
Ed Storey

September 12th, 2011, 9:32 am #4

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It looks like it was an exceptional event, congratuatlions!
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Bill A
Bill A

September 12th, 2011, 11:26 am #5

Mike thanks for the great pics of the ceremony.
An observation. The unit designation on the Guidon is 1 APCR, (1 Armoured Personnel Carrier Regiment) while the term commonly used (unitl now?) was 1 Canadian Armoured Carrier Regiment. If I understand the progression correctly, the unit was originally designated 1 Canadian Armoured Personnel Carrier Squadron, then 1 Canadian Armoured Personnel Carrier Regiment. Is the Guidon a reflection of the first designation?
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Joined: February 1st, 2006, 6:13 pm

September 12th, 2011, 1:11 pm #6

Hi Bill;

In the absence of Bill Miller, and on his behalf, in answer to your question Bill, the use of 1 APCR on the Guidon, is due to two factors:

1 - as pointed out by DHH, in the promulgated General Orders of 1945, which both authorized and disbanded the regiment (GO 60/45 and 321/45, respectively), the designation of the unit was 1st Armoured Personnel Carrier Regiment, hence the abbreviation of 1 APCR on the Guidon, a point DHH would not budge on.

2 - all of the markers, with the exception of one, of the regiments fallen, are marked: 1st Canadian Armoured Personnel Carrier Regiment.

DHH has no record of the designation of the unit being changed to 1st Canadian Armoured Carrier Regiment.

With the above mentioned in mind, and so that the process would not get bogged down, all parties concerned, agreed with the DHH recommended 1 APCR designation on the Guidon, so that within less than a year, a forgotten chapter in Canadian military history, was both corrected and sadly, came to a close.

Within the span of approximately eight hours, on Saturday 10 September 2011, on the lawns of the St. Thomas Armouries, home station of 31 Combat Engineer Regiment (The Elgins), the "Kangaroos" were finally presented their "Colours," after 66 years. It was both a happy and sad occasion, as their "Guidon" was officially, consecrated, presented to 1st Canadian Armoured Carrier Regiment, Trooped, and then paraded through the streets of St. Thomas, in a Freedom of the City parade, stood for a Mess Dinner, and then sadly was taken to the Officer's Mess of 31 CER, by the "Kangaroos" Orderly Officer of the day, Lieutenant Harry "Tatch" Tatchell (a young 99-year-old), where it was officially retired from service and turned over to the care and safe keeping of the Commanding Officer of 31 CER, until such time that it will be laid up, along with the former Guidon of The Elgin Regiment. Until such time, it is encased in the Officers Mess, opposite the Guidon of the Elgin Regiment.

I hope this answers your question Bill.

Cheers

Mark
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Bill A
Bill A

September 12th, 2011, 1:26 pm #7

Thanks Mark. I can certainly understand the bureaucratic evolution of the issue. To get the process completed while there are living veterans is far more important than arguing over a designation.
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Joined: February 1st, 2006, 6:13 pm

September 12th, 2011, 2:12 pm #8

This image says it all Bill, the "Kangaroos" with Lord Elgin and the Honorary Lieutenant-Colonel of the Elgins, and their Guidon. Sadly, within the coming years, as old soldiers do, theyll simply fade away, as will their Guidon, once it is laid up.

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Cheers

Mark
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Michael Reintjes
Michael Reintjes

September 12th, 2011, 4:05 pm #9

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Michael Reintjes
Michael Reintjes

September 12th, 2011, 4:27 pm #10

My favourites are the one with the Kangaroos with Lord Elgin and of course the one of Bill Miller sitting on the Carrier taking it all in which choked up a few of us indeed...
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