Interesting article about RNBR VS North Shores

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Interesting article about RNBR VS North Shores

Michael Reintjes
Michael Reintjes

September 21st, 2011, 2:57 pm #1

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Christopher Furlotte
Christopher Furlotte

September 21st, 2011, 3:47 pm #2

A most interesting read!
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September 21st, 2011, 5:14 pm #3

If 2RNBR has been in existence for 57 years, shouldn't the current name be retained over over one (NSR) that was only in existence for 32 years? The militia infantry battalion in Bathurst, NB, has been in a going concern since 1870 or 141 years. It has had six designations. The NSR was the fourth. The current one is the sixth and the only one with 'Royal' in the title.

And what of those reservists from 2RNBR who served actively in Afghanistan and elsewhere? How will the change back to a former designation twice-removed honour them?

The exact same argument can be made for the Cape Breton Highlanders. Only 34 years existence under that name versus 57 years as 2NSH.

While 2RNBR and 2NSH are each derived from one previous infantry unit, how would those who wish to use reactionary titles solve the problem presented by 1RNBR and 1NSH who were each a result of amalgamations?

Redesignation decisions are very rarely easy to make and, in my own humble and personal opinion, larger infantry regiments are better than single battalion ones. (The exception being, of course, the Calgary Highlanders!)

Cheers,
Dan.
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September 21st, 2011, 10:51 pm #4

You know where your bread is buttered. The Calgary Highlanders would be happy to aborb the KOCR as a second battalion. After all, it was The Calgary Regiment that yielded the two units to begin with - on paper, I think the original plan was to have six battalions, each to perpetuate different units of the CEF.
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September 21st, 2011, 11:17 pm #5

I kid, of course, with my last reply. I see the newspaper posted my response on their site as well.

You do raise a good point, Dan, about time and by extension "new traditions". I don't think there is any one "correct" answer; you would probably have to try and please the majority in a case like this. Had there never been a war in Afghanistan, though, I think the answer would have been simpler for many - pick the name that was in use during the greatest trial. I've never really considered "time in rank" alone as a great qualifier for much of anything. They give medals for it, but you generally look at the other "stuff" - rank, trade, unit awards, PER, UER, courses, taskings, exercises, tours, etc. - to get the true picture of what those years have added up to in terms of experience. Six years of war with 10,000 soldiers rotating through a regiment's ranks is hard to compare to a peacetime Militia unit, who might soldier for 60 years with a nominal strength of 100 troops and cycle through that same 10,000 figure in that period of time.

But one hates to try and quantify and of that to begin with. I'd leave it to the regimental associations, senates, and serving soldiers to try and sort it out as best they can. At the end of the day, it's their family.
Michael Dorosh
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