Camp X. (STS 103) British Security Coordination.

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Camp X. (STS 103) British Security Coordination.

Chris
Chris

April 13th, 2017, 7:51 pm #1

Here's a worth while project to contribute too! Canada's secret role during the second world war. Canadian involvement with British intelligence operations in the 'America continent' can't be over stated.


https://www.gofundme.com/campx-museum-project

https://www.escapecasaloma.com/station-m/
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Dean
Dean

April 15th, 2017, 3:58 pm #2

Chris, I helped to run the true Camp X museum ( STS 103) in Whitby, not the one in Oshawa, that help many questionable "Camp X artifacts"

I know the author that is spearheading this, he does not like me as we were not part of "his" group, yes the back stabing egos still exsist, even when their is a project that many groups or people want to see happen.

This is the 3rd time this has been put forward ( That I know of)

I would be very willing to give my time and efforts to make this happen, hell I am the one that out on the displays at the original site for many years, with the support of the CAF and 2 Intel from Toronto, I still have strong ties to them as I am helping them get a display together, and as they are Military and I once was, they get anything I find for my true cost, no charge for the hundards of hours of my research ect

Perhaps if we could work together, they could have some of the Camp X relics I have found, not to mention I think I know where a small hoard may be in the area
Again If I am such a bad guy and am telling crap, why was I a Guest at Bletchely Park years ago with a private tour, and got to start the "Bombe" in front of others.

Yes this must all be saved and a Museum Must be put in place...however the ego of one man, will not allow him to ask others to help

WE Truly must get away from that. And we know it is everywhere in this and evry other hobby

JUST MT THOUGHTS

and by the way, I do have a small collection of SOE items, many came from one of those that made these items in the UK... maybe they need a better home that sitting on a dust covered shelf in my home

Dean O
Ajax Ontario
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Anonymous
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April 16th, 2017, 1:40 pm #3

Dean,
I hope that some day sooner, rather then later that a Camp X museum that specializes in our countries clandestine and intelligence gathering history is created to show the general public of our historical past and including Cold war era history as well, as Igor Gouzenko affair in 1945. He and his family were given state protection at camp X after the war. I'm sort of surprised that the 150 anniversary of Canada as a country this year that nobody has at the official level, has taken any interest of funding nor supporting at this project what so ever? The RCMP had an important role on supporting this organization during war, and not much is mentioned on their website of it's history nor any support for this project either from the RCMP association for that matter. Hmmmm..'


Several links of interest on this deeply interest topic.



http://www.casaloma.ca/specialexhibtion.html

http://www.cbc.ca/xcompany/videos/secre ... -casa-loma

http://www.metronews.ca/news/toronto/20 ... ired-.html

http://www.camp-x.com/camp-xcollection-toronto.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vtg-badge-aut ... SwanRXg-xN (Camp X souvenir..!??)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Gouzenko

http://www.glenbow.org/collections/sear ... lellan.cfm

Chris


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Chris
Chris

April 16th, 2017, 5:40 pm #4

BTW, Here are a few links on Camp X and it's vital importance in the North American continent of training US Citizens and Canadians on clandestine warfare by British instructors and specialists during the early part of the second world war in Canada. It was operational just prior to the bombing of Pearl Harbour on Dec 7th 1941. The 'British Security Coordination' was really William Stephenson's a "Canadian Private Army"(funded by himself) in Canada working on behalf of the British Intelligence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXAmaJkodeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA60QfPc6S4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrimbtdXT7o
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Jon Skagfeld
Jon Skagfeld

April 17th, 2017, 3:24 pm #5

There was a fellow named Stewart who had hundreds of "spy" items in a Nissan hut on the Oshawa airport grounds.

I wonder whatever happened to all that stuff after he died.
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Anonymous
Anonymous

April 18th, 2017, 12:38 pm #6

Stewarts colletion was auctioned off a few years back, the truth be told, many of his "spy and Camp X" items were not what he thought they were.
I was asked by A Federal Agency HQ'd in Ottawa to take a look at the list of items they wanted for their collection.
I added a couple of items and removed a couple from that list.

The best piece he had was the Female one piece SOE coveralls that were used when the agents jumped.

They bought that piece

Dean
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April 19th, 2017, 3:49 am #7

Dean,
I hope that some day sooner, rather then later that a Camp X museum that specializes in our countries clandestine and intelligence gathering history is created to show the general public of our historical past and including Cold war era history as well, as Igor Gouzenko affair in 1945. He and his family were given state protection at camp X after the war. I'm sort of surprised that the 150 anniversary of Canada as a country this year that nobody has at the official level, has taken any interest of funding nor supporting at this project what so ever? The RCMP had an important role on supporting this organization during war, and not much is mentioned on their website of it's history nor any support for this project either from the RCMP association for that matter. Hmmmm..'


Several links of interest on this deeply interest topic.



http://www.casaloma.ca/specialexhibtion.html

http://www.cbc.ca/xcompany/videos/secre ... -casa-loma

http://www.metronews.ca/news/toronto/20 ... ired-.html

http://www.camp-x.com/camp-xcollection-toronto.html

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vtg-badge-aut ... SwanRXg-xN (Camp X souvenir..!??)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Gouzenko

http://www.glenbow.org/collections/sear ... lellan.cfm

Chris

A deeply interesting website on the Camp X history and it's secret equipment use to train agents/spy's at camp X and also used during overseas missions behind Axis lines. The British Security Coordination operated in all regions of the 'America's 'ie, Canada all the way to South America, Post war photo's of the buildings, prior to it's closing(1969)and destruction in the early 1970's. Oshawa Wireless Station-Royal Canadian Corps of Signals from 1946-1969.

http://www.campx.ca/campx.html

Chris



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Ken Joyce
Ken Joyce

April 30th, 2017, 5:48 pm #8

Here's a worth while project to contribute too! Canada's secret role during the second world war. Canadian involvement with British intelligence operations in the 'America continent' can't be over stated.


https://www.gofundme.com/campx-museum-project

https://www.escapecasaloma.com/station-m/
Chris knows that I have been working on some controversial information on STS 103. To date I have gathered literally thousands of documents on the facility in coordination with a researcher in the UK to include volumes only released over the last 10 years. This includes every available record of personnel passing through the camp and the operations they were sent on.

I have sought a publisher all over the globe and no one is interested in taking on the project. I always get the same reply and if you can believe it they claim it is too narrow a subject matter.

The main reason they do not want to take it on is because the actual truth behind one of the main reasons for the camp has been deliberately hidden. In fact it is actually tied in with Gouzenko and involves top members of the Liberal Government and their dealings with the Canadian Communist Party. In fact if the entire truth was
told it could completely destroy the legitimacy of the leaders of the Liberal Party of Canada and its bureaucratic regime beginning in the 1930's.

This is not speculation or hearsay, the entire story has been locked up in the UK unbeknownst to those involved in Canada.

The transparent Trudeau government of today is not so transparent. In fact they are about as transparent as a brick wall.

I have been fighting for years now to have records of the Minister of Justice and RCMP released that directly deal with the King, Pearson and Trudeau Governments and their direct involvement with Soviet espionage in Canada. It is little understood that despite the Conservative governments of Diefenbaker and Clark, practically the entire government bureaucracy, to include Canada's intelligence service ( actually External Affairs and later Security Panel ) were entirely controlled by Liberals suspected ( and I have proven) to be closet Communists. The implications of this are colossal. From Canada's foreign policies after WW2 to projects like the Avro Arrow. The vastness of the implications are incredible and also explain why today we have a Prime Minister that stated quite clearly that he has an "admiration for the basic dictatorship of Communist China."

This attitude goes way back to before WW2 and is directly implicated in one of the original reasons for the creation of STS 103 and its original project. It was not to recruit personnel to work for the western allies. It was to covertly recruit personnel on behalf of the Soviet Union and Communist International in order for them to infiltrate Countries in Eastern Europe to link up with local Communists with with ultimate goal to assist the Soviets. The operation was coerced by members of SIS and SOE who were in essence Soviet moles. At the top were personalities like James Klugmann, Kim Philby, and a cavalcade of others working for the Soviets. Again, this is not speculation or some political bias, I have proven this by the time line of documents and recent research and releases from archives to include those in Eastern Europe and Federal Archives of Russia.

Directly implicated in Canada are top members of External Affairs and other Government offices completely controlled by the Liberal brand. Many would go on to control Canada's intelligence apparatus and two would go on to become Prime Minister of Canada.

Authors and researchers have brought aspects of this forward before. However my evidence goes back further than the so-called cold war. A war which truthfully began with the creation of the Communist International in 1919.

Gouzenko is more of a pivotal figure than most people realize. His defection took these so-called Liberals completely by surprise. However he was effectively silenced. Rather than move forward with the revelations brought forward by Gouzenko, Soviet archives reveal that Soviet espionage rapidly increased in Canada after Gouzenko defected and that Canada was effectively used as an open door to gathering intelligence on both Great Britain and the United States. To the KGB, Canada was a soft target and they were getting assistance from people close to the ruling Liberal regimes. Again the implications are tremendous. All the debate of why Canada scrapped the Avro Arrow and foreign policies from Canada's involvement in the UN, Korea and Nato to Trudeau's direct involvement in kicking Taiwan out of the UN in place of Communist China, all these things now take on a more sinister and dark patina.

It is obvious that any effort by the Soviets to infiltrate western governments would target those in political movements that they could influence and control. The Canadian Communist Party was too overt and their ploys would become more obvious if they attempted to infiltrate any conservative movement. The Liberal Party of Canada becomes the obvious choice. This plot began in the 1920's and played out exactly the same way the Soviets recruited top intellectuals and their students at Cambridge and Oxford. Most of those implicated in Canada attended these schools in the 1920's and 1930's.

I can safely report that our transparent Liberal Government of today has refused access to 95% of the evidence in Canada. From records still held by the Minister
of Justice to records created by the RCMP. These records go back as far as late 1930's and include Cabinet documents, several Royal Commissions and RCMP investigations. In a seedy agreement between Joe Clark and Pierre Trudeau it was agreed that files such as the RCMP Featherbed investigation be permanently closed after Clark became PM in 1980. They were to be closed for an additional 20 years. Well that was approx 17 years ago. The bulk of the investigation remains permanently closed. No ATIP or protest has opened them.

I also just received word from the Minister of Justice that they cant answer this very important question. After reading the War Measures Act, I immediately became suspicious of the powers of the PM under such an Act. The powers of the PM are not made perfectly clear. It briefly discusses powers of censorship and other powers relating to control over various departments of the government. So, when Trudeau implemented the WMA during the FLQ crisis, did that give him sweeping powers to
purge documents relating to prior investigations and commissions ? We know for a fact that many of these records were indeed purged. I was essentially refused an answer. According to the Minister of Justice there are no documents that explain the extent of the powers of the PM during the implementation of the WMA which pertain to his control over the documentation of Government departments. I find that difficult to believe. If this is true the implications there are also worth contemplating.

So, in conclusion I hope many on this forum will ask themselves why no one in publishing or the media or even the government find this information of interest. No one has even asked to see the evidence I have. There is no doubt that members of the Liberal Government of Canada and those representing them as permanent bureaucrats are implicated in efforts by the OGPU, GRU, NKVD, KGB and the Canadian Communist Party to undermine the people of Canada, the efforts of the western allies and to set up Communist regimes in Countries like Austria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Italy, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary.


Despite the refusal by the Canadian Government to assist me in uncovering the truth, my manuscript is almost done. I dont need that information to prove what occurred during the war or even up to the election of Joe Clark. However I can help but wonder what must be in those files that the Government does not want the Canadian public to know. The excuse that the sordid sexual escapades of many government employees are the reason for the ban holds absolutely no water. It would therefore be the job of ATIP to redact that information and supply the unrelated, non-personal facts. They simply refuse to do that.

Ken Joyce



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Ken Joyce
Ken Joyce

April 30th, 2017, 6:08 pm #9

Clarification.

Clark became PM in 1979, I meant to say that the agreement to close investigative files was made before Trudeau returned as PM in 1980.

Here is an overview of the press's perspective on the matter at that time...

Montreal Gazette story dated 11 October 1979, “In a secret Order-in-Council issued in his last days as Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau ordered all the police intelligence files on him and his Cabinet colleagues be sealed for at least 20 years, the Gazette has learned. The files were part of a top secret investigation called, ‘Operation Featherbed’ that was started by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in the early 1960’s [actually 1950’s]. Prime Minister Joe Clark agreed in a letter dated June 2 that Trudeau’s final Order-in-Council would be respected, an undertaking which has angered some Conservative MP’s. Repeated efforts by Trudeau and other senior Liberals to gain access to the Featherbed files were turned down by the RCMP security branch. But senior members of the security service have told the Gazette that the file includes material on the private lives of influential Canadian figures, their past political affiliations, contacts with agents of foreign powers, private weaknesses or vices and even sexual practices. Trudeau’s decision to issue an Order-in Council sealing this Featherbed material just four days after the last federal election, but while he was still Prime Minister, also brought sharp rebukes from his former Cabinet colleagues...”

So not only does this heap a pile of additional suspicion on Trudeau but also makes one ask what the RCMP also had on the private lives of many Conservative politicians for Clark to agree to such an incriminating agreement. It is possible that not only the RCMP investigation had info on the private lives of politicians but it is also likely that the KGB held incriminating evidence. By 1979 the KGB were everywhere in Canada.

Ken

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Dean
Dean

May 1st, 2017, 6:11 pm #10

I am very happy to see that we let insane people post here, I have been involved with Camp X for many years and have had access to papers that are not common knowledge.,not by me but by others, but I have read them...this guy is just fuck&ng nuts

Nothing more to be said!!~!!~

Dean O
Canada
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