Dax
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August 17th, 2011, 5:31 am #141

>> The use of the word 'shit'.

I do love the inclusion of that word in Disney's 1960 Pollyanna...

Mom just read and really liked the book. I look forward to seeing the movie eventually...
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tgir
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August 17th, 2011, 2:19 pm #142

The use of the word 'shit' can be a deal breaker in a classroom full of 14 year olds . Depending on the parents. And principal.

I don't think if The Help as being 'must see' so much as I really wanted to see it in the theater specifically because it featured a strong cast comprised almost entirely of women, and with a large portion of the cast comprised of black women. All of the main characters are strong women, although some are stronger than others.

I also think that it is a good thing to look back at the days leading up to and including the Civil Rights movement. Too often, I think we forget what life was like then and why it had to change.

Although, for my money, the tv series "I'll Fly Away" was better and more hard hitting. This book/film were both lighter weight in tone, with some humor as a part of the story. But not every film depicting this era must be treated as An Important Piece of History And We Can Never Laugh When Thinking about Such Momentous Things.

OH: A couple of God Damns in it, too. Forgot about those.
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August 17th, 2011, 8:32 pm #143

While I have yet to read the book, I did see the movie - "The Help" this past weekend. So, definitely can't compare the two.

However, I thought the movie was well done, and the acting, especially Viola Davis and Emma Stone, was particularly good. I would certainly let a 14 year old see this film. They need to see what it was like, (and still is in some instances) for the black people and in particular women, prior to the Civil Rights Movement. I'm sure most 14 years old have heard and seen far worse than anything that was depicted in this movie.

I found "Skeeter" to be very young and naive, and even she had times when she appeared shocked at the attitudes of her family and friends towards the black servants and how much danger these women put themselves in by telling their stories.

I wouldn't call this movie a 'chick flick'. Yes, women were the major characters, with the men just supporting, but it was a serious but not heavy handed look at those times. I found the moments of humour were a relief. Definitely not in the same category as something like 'Bridesmaids' -- which was just too silly for me.
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KMInfinity
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August 17th, 2011, 8:38 pm #144

I LOVED "I'll Fly Away." I miss that.

I showed Matewan at my old school.
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Krystal
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August 18th, 2011, 12:28 am #145

Where are you KM?

A high class school in the Burgh? I have not heard of this.....
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Krystal
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August 18th, 2011, 1:03 am #146

KM, if you do not want to say, I understand.

Re the dialect thing, ITA. People in Pittsburgh use the phrase yunz for plural you. It is a class thing, so we call them the Yinzers, meaning the less educated folks who generally run around painting their faces and bodies Steeler's colors and getting undressed at games even when it is 40 below outside.
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August 18th, 2011, 2:17 am #147

lol About the Yinzers....
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August 18th, 2011, 2:18 am #148

Like the movie "The Help", "I'll Fly Away" had a GL clip in one of the episodes. :)
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tgir
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August 18th, 2011, 3:21 am #149

Yes! I forgot to mention that there was a brief GL clip in The Help.

Marg, I agree that 14 year olds could see the film and doubtless see far, far worse on a daily basis. But it is a different thing for a teacher to show a film in a classroom with 14 year olds in it. The teacher needs to be very careful to avoid having parents, PTOs or principals coming down on her.

I also don't think The Help was a chick flick, but my husband dubbed it so on the basis of the cast. So, we had a discussion about whether films with all or predominately male casts should be called dick flicks (my choice) but he said he preferred sausage fest, which I thought sounded more pornographic.

I liked the Bridesmaids very much. I thought there was more to it than just silly stuff--it really had a lot to say about how women sometimes view themselves and how little some of us think we deserve. Is it a chick flick: I think so, but at least no one dies at the end like Beaches and Steel Magnolias (both films I like, but really, can't we just do funny, with no one dying? )
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September 1st, 2011, 4:59 am #150

Rented an 08 movie called "Not Forgotten". No big names, about a kidnapping but many twists and turns and strange plot involving Mexican black arts. Actually rather suspensful, and kept me interested.
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