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August 4th, 2013, 7:00 pm #1

Gate and I were talking about her finally catching up with Justified and Game of Thrones recently... she says she's going to try to catch up on The Good Wife and Scandal soon... 'What else have I missed?' Most of my favorites have come from these three cable networks - HBO, FX, and AMC - and I've had a fascination with tracking their evolution. Even their failures are interesting. I've seen all but a season and a half of HBO's 18 drama series to date (haven't seen the second of Rome or any of The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency). I didn't like FX's Dirt and dropped it early, and I never got around to seeing all of one-and-done Over There (think I was five or six shows in when I left off...), but I've seen all of the rest of their 15 series. AMC launches their seventh drama, Low Winter Sun, next Sunday.

Showtime has favorites Shameless, Homeland, and soon-to-depart Dexter, but there were long-running shows (The L Word) I never saw any of and historical dramas The Tudors and The Borgias that I didn't watch... I don't know the whole history of Showtime's dramas, I'd have to do some more research, but it feels like they're just getting started in competing with the others (see Homeland's big three first season Emmy wins). HBO got this whole ball rolling... FX continued it, but rarely gets Emmy attention... AMC had the very good fortune of picking up as their first two shows Mad Men (which HBO passed on) and Breaking Bad (which FX passed on). And now they have ratings behemoth The Walking Dead...

Listed chronologically... bold means it's still on (but a note may indicate that we know when it's gonna end).

HBO
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Oz -- 1997-2003 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 56 episodes -- 8/8/8/8+8/8/8
The Sopranos -- 1999-2007 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 86 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/13/12+9
Six Feet Under -- 2001-2005 -- Five seasons -- 63 episodes -- 13/13/13/12/12
The Wire -- 2002-2008 -- Five seasons -- 60 episodes -- 13/12/12/13/10
Carnivale -- 2003-2005 -- Two seasons -- 24 episodes -- 12/12
Deadwood -- 2004-2006 -- Three seasons -- 36 episodes -- 12/12/12
Rome -- 2005-2007 -- Two seasons -- 22 episodes -- 12/10
Big Love -- 2006-2011 -- Five seasons -- 53 episodes -- 12/12/10/9/10
John From Cincinnati -- 2007 -- One season -- 10 episodes
Tell Me You Love Me -- 2007 -- One season -- 10 episodes
In Treatment (half-hour show) -- 2008-2010 -- Three seasons -- 106 episodes -- 43/35/28
True Blood -- 2008-2014 -- Seven seasons -- 80 episodes -- 12/12/12/12/12/10/10
The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency -- 2009 -- One season -- 7 episodes
Treme -- 2010-2013 -- Four seasons -- 36 episodes -- 10/11/10/5
Boardwalk Empire -- 2010-2014 -- Five seasons -- 56 episodes -- 12/12/12/12/8
Game of Thrones -- 2011-2018 -- Season 7 coming next summer, 8 will be the last -- 73 episodes -- 10/10/10/10/10/10/7/6
Luck -- 2012 -- One season -- 9 episodes
The Newsroom -- 2012-2014 -- Three seasons -- 25 episodes -- 10/9/6
True Detective -- 2014-2015 -- Two seasons (may return someday) -- 16 episodes -- 8/8
The Leftovers -- 2014-2017 -- Third and final season coming in April -- 28 episodes -- 10/10/8
Vinyl -- 2016 -- One season -- 10 episodes
Westworld -- 2016-on -- second season coming in 2018 -- 20 episodes -- 10/10


I haven't seen the second season of Rome.
I haven't seen The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency, which you might regard as a 'mini-series' instead of a series, but the plan HAD been for more...
I haven't seen the major mini-series From The Earth To The Moon (1998, 12 parts), Band of Brothers (2001, 10 parts), The Pacific (2010, 10 parts), or Generation Kill (2008, 7 parts), but I'll get to them...
The cancellation of Deadwood will always hurt.
The Sopranos is probably my favorite television program of all time. Others cite The Wire. I love that, too.
Upcoming show True Detective is going to uses the American Horror Story anthology model and is a series of mini-series.


FX
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The Shield -- 2002-2008 -- Seven seasons -- 88 episodes -- 13/13/15/13/11/10/13
Nip/Tuck -- 2003-2010 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 100 episodes -- 13/16/15/15/14+8/19
Rescue Me -- 2004-2011 -- Seven seasons -- 93 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/22/10/9
Over There -- 2005 -- One season -- 13 episodes
Thief -- 2006 -- One season -- 6 episodes
Dirt -- 2007-2008 -- Two seasons -- 20 episodes -- 13/7
The Riches -- 2007-2008 -- Two seasons -- 20 episodes -- 13/7
Damages -- 2007-2010 on FX -- Three seasons on FX -- 39 episodes on FX -- 13/13/13
.......... -- 2011-2012 on DirecTV -- Two seasons on DirecTV -- 20 episodes on DirecTV -- 10/10 -- 59 episodes altogether
Sons of Anarchy -- 2008-2014 -- Seven seasons -- 92 episodes -- 13/13/13/14/13/13/13
Justified -- 2010-2015 -- Six seasons -- 78 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/13/13
Terriers -- 2010 -- One season -- 13 episodes
Lights Out -- 2011 -- One season -- 13 episodes
American Horror Story -- 2011-on -- Seventh season coming, will be at least two more after that -- 73 episodes through Season 6 -- 12/13/13/13/12/10
The Americans -- 2013-2018 -- Six seasons, 5th coming -- 75 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/13/10

The Bridge -- 2013-14 -- Two seasons -- 26 episodes -- 13/13
Fargo -- 2014-on -- Third season coming in the spring -- 20 episodes so far -- 10/10
Tyrant -- 2014-2016 -- Three seasons -- 32 episodes -- 10/12/10
The Strain -- 2014-2017 -- Fourth and final season coming -- 36 episodes through 3 -- 13/13/10
The Bastard Executioner -- 2015 -- One season -- 9 episodes
American Crime Story -- 2016-on -- 2nd season is Hurricane Katrina; the third, Versace; the fourth, Monica Lewinsky -- 10/10
Taboo -- 2017-on -- renewed for a second season -- 8 episodes
Legion -- 2017-on -- renewed for a second season -- 8 episodes
Feud -- 2017-on -- first season airing now -- 8 episodes




I didn't like Dirt, and only watched the first 3 hours or so. Gate liked it, and expressed disappointment/surprise that I didn't.
FX bought Dirt OVER Breaking Bad. Oops.
Dirt and The Riches were both killed by the writers' strike.
Thief was meant to be a series, but somehow got the Emmys to consider them under 'mini-series'...
Terriers is the best show nobody saw, and a dvd release would make me happy.
I haven't watched the last two seasons of Damages yet. I have 4 & 5 on dvd waiting for me, but probably won't watch them 'til next summer 'someday'.


AMC
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Mad Men -- 2007-2015 -- Seven seasons (in eight runs) -- 90 episodes (92 counting 2-hour episodes as 2) -- 13/13/13/13/12/12/7+7
Breaking Bad -- 2008-2013 -- Five seasons (in six runs) -- 62 episodes - 7/13/13/13/8+8
Rubicon -- 2010 -- One season -- 13 episodes
The Walking Dead -- 2010-on -- Season 8 in October -- 99 episodes through 7 -- 6/13/16/16/16/16/16
The Killing -- 2011-2013 on AMC -- Three seasons on AMC -- 38 episodes on AMC -- 13/13/12
........... -- 2014 on Netflix -- One season of 6 episodes on Netflix -- 44 episodes altogether
Hell on Wheels -- 2011-2016 -- Five seasons (in six runs) -- 57 episodes -- 10/10/10/13/7+7
Low Winter Sun -- 2013 -- One season -- 10 episodes
Turn -- 2014-2017 -- Fourth and final season coming -- 40 episodes -- 10/10/10/10
Halt and Catch Fire -- 2014-2017 -- Fourth and final season coming -- 40 episodes -- 10/10/10/10
Better Call Saul -- 2015-on -- Third season airing now -- 20 episodes -- 10/10/10
Humans -- 2015-on -- Third season coming -- 16 episodes -- 8/8
Fear the Walking Dead -- 2015-on -- Third season coming -- 21 episodes -- 6/15
Into the Badlands -- 2015-on -- Second season airing now -- 16 episodes -- 6/10
Preacher -- 2016-on -- Returning for a second season in June -- 23 episodes -- 10/13

Feed the Beast -- 2016 -- One season -- 10 episodes
The Son -- 2017-on -- First season starts in April --

Additionally, IFC, WEtv, and Sundance Channel are co-branded as 'AMC Networks'.
The first scripted series that began on Sundance this year, Rectify, was developed at AMC. Six episodes so far, a second season of 13 has been ordered.
WEtv is very close to ordering to series an as-yet-untitled legal thriller from Richard LaGravenese & Tony Goldwyn that AMC shot a pilot for and didn't order to series, but passed onto its sibling channel... The Divide starts on July 16th; Season 1 is eight episodes.

Mad Men and Breaking Bad are two of my favorite shows of all-time.



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August 5th, 2013, 2:27 pm #2

Great write-up Dax.

Yeah I liked 'Dirt' a lot and was surprised you and the viewing audience didn't.

Here is what I've watched from the list over the years ....

HBO
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The Sopranos -- 1999-2007 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 86 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/13/12+9
Six Feet Under -- 2001-2005 -- Five seasons -- 63 episodes -- 13/13/13/12/12
Big Love -- 2006-2011 -- Five seasons -- 53 episodes -- 12/12/10/9/10
In Treatment (half-hour show) -- 2008-2010 --
True Blood -- 2008-on --
Boardwalk Empire -- 2010-on -- 12/12/12
Game of Thrones -- 2011-on --
Luck -- 2012 -- One season -- didn't like.
The Newsroom -- 2012-on -- Two seasons to date -- 19 episodes so far -- 10/9

I like everything HBO has in the list above except 'Luck'. I just didn't care for it.

I miss The Sopranos and Six Feet Under. Also upset there wasn't more 'In Treatment'.

Game of Thrones would be my favorite from the list.

FX
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Nip/Tuck -- 2003-2010 --
Rescue Me -- 2004-2011 --
Dirt -- 2007-2008 --
The Riches -- 2007-2008 --
Damages -- 2007-2010 on FX --
Sons of Anarchy -- 2008-on --
Justified -- 2010-on --
Terriers -- 2010 --
American Horror Story -- 2011-on --
The Americans -- 2013-on --
The Bridge -- 2013-on

I haven't seen Damages since it left FX but I want to. I forgot how much I love FX programing. Lots of good shows! Nip/Tuck is my favorite from this network with Rescue Me a very close second.


AMC
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Mad Men -- 2007-2014 --
Breaking Bad -- 2008-2013 --
The Walking Dead -- 2010-on -- Fourth season starts soon -- 35 episodes so far -- 6/13/16
The Killing -- 2011-on(?) -- Three seasons to date, awaiting renewal -- 38 episodes so far -- 13/13/12

Breaking Bad would be my favorite followed by Mad Men and The Walking Dead third. I didn't think Season 3 of The Walking Dead was that great.

SHO
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Dexter - I will miss my old friend and I'm really pissed I didn't get to see him last night!
Homeland - I liked the 1st Season a lot and the other 2 were good.

I guess I don't watch a lot of SHO series. I think it's bundled with my package and if I drop it (not getting it anyway right now because TWC sucks) I think it may only be costing me $3-5 / month. I need to check on that.
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August 5th, 2013, 3:58 pm #3

>> Homeland - I liked the 1st Season a lot and the other 2 were good.

Other ONE was good. We're only two in, now.
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August 5th, 2013, 4:39 pm #4

Dax wrote:>> Homeland - I liked the 1st Season a lot and the other 2 were good.

Other ONE was good. We're only two in, now.
Yes ... I knew that. Brain fart! ;)
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August 5th, 2013, 7:08 pm #5

Great thread. I'm OCD color coding so I can print it out for Christmas listing..lol....Color coded

What I love-purple
What I like-green
What I didn't like-red
What I hope to watch someday...-light blue
Saw a bit, not driven to watch, could end up being loved, could end up meh...-orange

HBO
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Oz -- 1997-2003 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 56 episodes -- 8/8/8/8+8/8/8It'll be tough for me, but there are so many actors I like.
The Sopranos -- 1999-2007 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 86 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/13/12+9
Six Feet Under -- 2001-2005 -- Five seasons -- 63 episodes -- 13/13/13/12/12
Saw a few of each. Everyone I know says I'll love them. I may, if I get past the critical first season mark. SFU is a very good friend's fave of all time. We may trade if she agrees to watch Buffy while I watch SFU.
The Wire -- 2002-2008 -- Five seasons -- 60 episodes -- 13/12/12/13/10
Carnivale -- 2003-2005 -- Two seasons -- 24 episodes -- 12/12
Deadwood -- 2004-2006 -- Three seasons -- 36 episodes -- 12/12/12-Still need to see S3 but love it. Mark's fault we are in limbo. If I weren't married and making at least a semblance of trying to 'share' I would have watched this long ago. DAMN THOSE PIRATES FOR BEING THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL THIS YEAR.
Rome -- 2005-2007 -- Two seasons -- 22 episodes -- 12/10
Big Love -- 2006-2011 -- Five seasons -- 53 episodes -- 12/12/10/9/10
John From Cincinnati -- 2007 -- One season -- 10 episodes
Tell Me You Love Me -- 2007 -- One season -- 10 episodes
In Treatment (half-hour show) -- 2008-2010 -- Three seasons -- 106 episodes -- 43/35/28
True Blood -- 2008-on -- Six seasons to date, seventh ordered -- 70 episodes so far -- 12/12/12/12/12/10-There should be a special color for 'guilty pleasure I mock but watch.' lol
The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency -- 2009 -- One season -- 7 episodes
Treme -- 2010-2013 -- Four seasons -- 36 episodes -- 10/11/10/5-Love this so much I will probably buy a 'series' release when it/if happens.
Boardwalk Empire -- 2010-on -- Three seasons to date, fourth starts soon -- 36 episodes so far -- 12/12/12
Game of Thrones -- 2011-on -- Three seasons to date, fourth filming now -- 30 episodes so far -- 10/10/10
Luck -- 2012 -- One season -- 9 episodes
The Newsroom -- 2012-on -- Two seasons to date -- 19 episodes so far -- 10/9-Put this in the True Blood special category. I mock this a lot while watching it.
Band of Brothers (2001, 10 parts), The Pacific (2010, 10 parts)Especially loved BoB.


FX
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The Shield -- 2002-2008 -- Seven seasons -- 88 episodes -- 13/13/15/13/11/10/13
Nip/Tuck -- 2003-2010 -- Six seasons (in seven runs) -- 100 episodes -- 13/16/15/15/14+8/19
Rescue Me -- 2004-2011 -- Seven seasons -- 93 episodes -- 13/13/13/13/22/10/9
-Amazed I've never watched any of these-I wonder if my cable package in the old house didn't have FX...I saw a couple Nip/Tucks and realized it's soapy and needs to begin at the beginning...I adore Julian McMahan.
Over There -- 2005 -- One season -- 13 episodes
Thief -- 2006 -- One season -- 6 episodes
Dirt -- 2007-2008 -- Two seasons -- 20 episodes -- 13/7
The Riches -- 2007-2008 -- Two seasons -- 20 episodes -- 13/7
Damages -- 2007-2010 on FX -- Three seasons on FX -- 39 episodes on FX -- 13/13/13
.......... -- 2011-2012 on DirecTV -- Two seasons on DirecTV -- 20 episodes on DirecTV -- 10/10 -- 59 episodes altogether
Sons of Anarchy -- 2008-on -- Sixth season about to start, seventh will be the last -- 66 episodes so far -- 13/13/13/14/13
Justified -- 2010-on -- Fifth season coming next spring -- 52 episodes so far -- 13/13/13/13

Terriers -- 2010 -- One season -- 13 episodes-I see this has still not been released on DVD yet. Soon? Any chance FX will repeat it?
Lights Out -- 2011 -- One season -- 13 episodes
American Horror Story -- 2011-on -- Third season about to start -- 25 episodes so far -- 12/13
The Americans -- 2013-on -- Second season coming next spring -- 13 episodes so far
The Bridge -- 2013-on -- Second season will likely be ordered soon -- 13 episodes running now


AMC
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Mad Men -- 2007-2014 -- Seventh and final season coming next spring -- 76 episodes so far -- 13/13/13/13/12/12
Breaking Bad -- 2008-2013 -- Five seasons (in six runs) -- 62 episodes - 7/13/13/13/8+8-This falls into the Soprano category. A lot will depend on how much I get swept into the early episodes. I am trying hard to avoid kneejerk dislike of the premise.
Rubicon -- 2010 -- One season -- 13 episodes
The Walking Dead -- 2010-on -- Fourth season starts soon -- 35 episodes so far -- 6/13/16
The Killing -- 2011-on(?) -- Three seasons to date, awaiting renewal -- 38 episodes so far -- 13/13/12
Hell on Wheels -- 2011-on(?) -- Third season starts Saturday -- 30 episodes so far -- 10/10/10
Low Winter Sun -- 2013-on(?) -- Starts Sunday -- 10 episodes coming
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August 5th, 2013, 8:34 pm #6

I like lists. I'd thought of doing this for awhile... it's existed on paper for a few years...

Your color-coding is fun.

In the future, I'll update the top post AND use the thread for development news for HBO/FX/AMC (and their siblings, and probably Showtime, too...), dramas and comedies, both; premiere/finale date stuff, too. I'd made your old 'American Gods' thread (Neil kinda expressed that HBO had passed, think it's dead) into an HBO development thread, but this is better, since I'm as obsessive about AMC and FX goings-on, too...

I do hope you'll return to Sopranos someday.

I think you'd love Six Feet Under. There's nothing 'wrong' with the first season, but I did like it better as it went along, and you got to know everybody better...

Deadwood. Sigh. My mother-in-law borrowed my DVDs and thoroughly enjoyed them, but Crystal never got to it... she'd done dvd marathons of Weeds, Six Feet Under, and Rescue Me, and was start-and-stop going through The Shield... Deadwood was supposed to be next.

I'll definitely buy a Complete Series blu-ray of Treme. (There are some available-to-them extras - fuller music performances, mostly - that I know didn't get onto the first couple individual season releases, so I didn't get them, and am hoping the all-in-one will have more...)

Ha. The only HBO drama DVDs I DON'T own are Carnivale (and I'd probably get them for $15-20 'someday'...), Big Love (it would be a long time before I need to revisit it, I think, as much as I liked it at the time), In Treatment 3, True Blood 5, Luck, and Newsroom (and I will get them eventually...). Doubles of Sopranos (full series box). Will probably double on The Wire eventually, get the full series box (has a few new extras). Getting GoT and Boardwalk Empire on blu-ray (sorta have a second set of GoT - dvd of 1, blu of 2 - have been buying for Mom... usually we share everything anyway, but I got extras of each of those for the store exclusives...).

Nip/Tuck is wonderfully fun, sick and twisted soap. Gate loves it enthusiastically... it's one that I'd get very excited for a new season to start, but had to acknowledge that it wasn't ALWAYS good... it would shift up and down in quality quite a bit... there are some terrible stretches... but yeah, if you love Julian McMahon, you really HAVE to see it... 100 episodes, and he's naked in rather a lot of them...

The Shield is my favorite of the FX shows.

Terriers - unlikely to repeat, but I suppose it's possible, especially with FX spinning itself into two more channels (FXX - concentrating on comedies- and FXM - concentrating on movies)... dvd not imminent, but I shall not give up hope that there will eventually be one... it is available for streaming on Netflix and Amazon.

I think you'd love Breaking Bad. Okay, I know how you feel about characters you can root for, and the general sliminess of organized crime giving you a hard time with Sopranos... here, there ARE sympathetic characters present. Rich characters. Gorgeous cinematography. Tons of twists. Expert performances by all. It's a masterpiece.
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August 6th, 2013, 12:02 am #7

Dax wrote:Nip/Tuck is wonderfully fun, sick and twisted soap. Gate loves it enthusiastically... it's one that I'd get very excited for a new season to start, but had to acknowledge that it wasn't ALWAYS good... it would shift up and down in quality quite a bit... there are some terrible stretches... but yeah, if you love Julian McMahon, you really HAVE to see it... 100 episodes, and he's naked in rather a lot of them...
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I think you'd love Breaking Bad. Okay, I know how you feel about characters you can root for, and the general sliminess of organized crime giving you a hard time with Sopranos... here, there ARE sympathetic characters present. Rich characters. Gorgeous cinematography. Tons of twists. Expert performances by all. It's a masterpiece.
Love the COLOR KMI!

Dax, YES YES & YES for Nip/Tuck. Every time I think of Nip/Tuck I think of Cheryl and our ongoing battle of Christian. :wub: It is definitely fun, sick & twisted in a really good soapy way. I'm ignoring the part where you said it wasn't always good. As long as Christian was around and for Chris it was Kimber life was good.

KMI, you will love Breaking Bad.

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August 6th, 2013, 12:14 am #8

Mmmm... Kimber...

>> I'm ignoring the part where you said it wasn't always good.

I really hated the arc where Sean was in love with Anne Heche...

I'd love to know more about some of the off-screen tension between the cast and Ryan Murphy... it was not a happy set in the last few years...
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August 6th, 2013, 1:32 am #9

wrote:The Shield is my favorite of the FX shows.
Mine too, but Justified is a close second!!
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August 6th, 2013, 1:58 am #10

I agree with that... it's definitely my favorite still-going show...

Kinda have to wait 'til it's over to compare them side-by-side, because (though I pretty much trust they won't) it's POSSIBLE Justified could have a bad season, or end poorly...

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