Halt and Catch Fire

Krystal
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June 22nd, 2014, 6:46 pm #1

Well, I am in for sure. I really like it. The lead guy is heart stoppingly gorgeous, even though he's playing a total asshole. The whole cast is interesting, and the plot (in my opinion) as well. The character is as of last week's shocking epi, bisexual. When one thinks of the time frame, this is pretty scary as that is when AIDS was spreading like wildfire and the treatments were almost non-existent. We'll be sampling a few more summer shows, but this one is on the don't miss list.
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bilki
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June 23rd, 2014, 1:13 am #2

I tried to watch EP 3 twice but lost interest both times. The guy at AV Club gave it a bad review, so I felt like I didn't miss anything. I'll try to watch another episode but have a feeling I'll drop this one.

I was amused by the commenters at AV Club asking for someone new to review the show, as it's pretty clear the guy doing it now doesn't like it.
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Dax
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June 23rd, 2014, 1:23 am #3

I think I like it less than Krystal but more than the AV Club reviewer (and more than you).

It'll hold my interest for ten episodes. It's probably too soon too tell what I'll think after 10, since I've already been kinda up and down on it - 1, 'okay', 2, 'better, I think I like it', 3, 'got a little bored, but I AM curious about what comes next'...

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Lee Pace -- Joe Macmillan
Scoot McNairy -- Gordon Clark
Mackenzie Davis -- Cameron Howe
Kerry Bishe -- Donna Clark
Toby Huss -- John Bosworth
David Wilson Barnes -- Dale Butler (not around long..)
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KMInfinity
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June 23rd, 2014, 2:16 am #4

I watched the first two, and wasn't bored but wasn't drawn in either. The characters interest me but the story just isn't told very well. Either they need to get down and dirty and make the computer stuff clear, or sideline that shit and make it more strongly about the characters. For example, I'm likely to keep watching just because I really like the subtlety of the story they're telling about Gordon and Donna's marriage, and Donna's story. It (depressingly) looks a lot like Peggy Olson's 20 years later.
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Krystal
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June 23rd, 2014, 4:13 am #5

KM try number 3. It really heats up. If you are not sold then it really is not for you.
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KMInfinity
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June 23rd, 2014, 4:15 pm #6

Caught up with #3 and #4 last night. I will watch the full season, but I needed a 'background' so I found this:

http://mashable.com/2014/05/29/halt-and ... mc-compaq/

I think one reason I'll be watching is to critique the handling of the female characters. In some ways it's 'empowering' to have Cameron and Donna so integral to the science, especially how Donna comes in and saves the day rescuing the BIOS. But in other ways their characters are chock full of bad cliche crap and poor development in the service of 'dramatic storytelling.' Cameron especially is just a little too 'special snowflake' and the sex plot with her and Joe is too much too soon too unnecessary.
wrote:The character is as of last week's shocking epi, bisexual.
I'm not sure he's bi. The intent was more to show how ruthless he is and how he will do A-N-Y-thing to push his agenda. And the whole BIOS crash in #4 supports this.

I read a geek review somewhere that panned the show pretty harshly and I agreed with a lot of it. I'll find it again and share.
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Dax
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June 24th, 2014, 8:14 pm #7

#4 - I like that Donna was both the one to save the day and discover Joe's deceit.

Joe's beating - ouch.

Fun suspense with Cameron stalking around the Clark house with a can of spray paint, but I was confused for a minute when the Fired, Bitter Neighbor guy came in with a gun... I wasn't so sure he was checking out that there was an intruder or whether or not HE was a threat against Gordon and his family...
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Krystal
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June 25th, 2014, 4:44 am #8

KM, I think the female characters are very well written and accurate. Donna, smarter than the guys, in a man's field. Would have to work 2x as hard to get any credit, with the kids, she gets no help. She does it all. Very much the times. If you worked and had kids, you got no help unless you could hire it..She is a woman breaking barriers, resented I am sure because she is smarter and they know it. Been there done that.

Cameron, brilliant but flaky. That happens with creatives regardless of if they are male or female. Speaking of sex, everyone was having it at the time. Joe has not forced himslef on her, she does not have the job because of it. They are 2 horny people. (Looking like he does, I would have had sex with him too).
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KMInfinity
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June 26th, 2014, 3:48 am #9

Oh I love Donna. I really loved the speech she gave Gordon, about how HE can only succeed because of HER. (I need to look up the exact words... My friends and I joke that we'd be awesome and rule the world if we had wives.) I think some of it is very accurate and very insightful but some of it is cliche. They have the opportunity to be nuanced and sophisticated but I don't think they are always taking the 'high road' in their storytelling.
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Krystal
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June 27th, 2014, 1:55 am #10

Yes, I loved it as well. And I agree, a wife would be great! When you look at men who have big careers they almost always have a non working wife who does and arranges everything for them. And a secretary or "executive assistant" at work as well. Most career women do it with little or no help from their spouses (if they even have one), and the antagonism of the male counterparts.

When I walk into a depo, I am extremely well prepared and usually take out the opposing council's questions without breaking a sweat. But if I see a 50+ year old woman across the table I know I am in for a battle, because like me they had to claw their way up. I eat the young ones for lunch regardless of their sex :)
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