Way of The Dragon’s Sequel – An envision into Bruce’s unmade project

Way of The Dragon’s Sequel – An envision into Bruce’s unmade project

LJF
Joined: December 6th, 2014, 3:05 am

March 9th, 2017, 11:03 am #1

Bruce told some of his co-workers like Chaplin Chang that he intended to make a sequel to WOTD and he liked Tang Lung, the main character very much. WOTD originally was made for the Asian audience. So, the sequel to WOTD would mainly for the International audience, especially the West after the success of ETD.

Remember at the ending of WOTD, Tang Lung’s uncle sent a telegram to ask Bruce to go somewhere else to help someone? This remark carries a foreshadowing of what is to follow later on in the sequel.

WOTD was initially scheduled to be shot in the U.S. and the background was the mafia gang v.s. a restaurant in Chinatown. Yet due to budget and other constraints, it was shot in Rome instead. For the sequel, it would be backed by WB with a bigger budget. Bruce should have filmed it in the U.S. since he would have moved back to his birth place after the huge success of ETD and upon completion of GAME.

Bruce penned his WOTD character’s name Tang Lung, literally means Chinese Dragon. In this sequel, he might want to introduce a new character, Tang Fu, literally means Chinese Tiger, his twin brother, which would be played by none other Bruce himself. Since nobody could match his ability. Bruce had long wanted to play 4 characters in his unmade movie, Silent Flute. So, this would sort of realized his dream despite it would be a greater challenge to him after playing cameo roles for a telephone technician, a rickshaw driver and an old newspaper vendor in FOF. Tang Hu, the younger twin brother, would have a diverse character as Tang Lung, much more sophisticated, intelligent, eloquent and well-groomed than his elder twin.

Again, this story would have similar themes to WOTD like the Mafia harassing the Chinese restaurant (maybe change to Chinese community) and Bruce was sent by his uncle to help his fellow country men overseas. Some of his good counterparts are fighters in their own rights who could play by Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Ron Van Clief.

Examples of casting candidates for consideration:

Mafia Boss: Marlon Brando or Jack Nicholson

Bad characters: Bob Baker, Bob Wall, Joe Lewis, Ed Parker, Yausaki Kurata, Jesse Glover, Howard Williams etc.

Chinese waiters/ sidekicks: Sam Hui, Peter Chin, Sammo Hung, Lee Kun, Lam Ching Ying, Yuen Wah, Bee Chan etc.

U.S. female characters: Sophia Loren or Barbara Streisand (as Mafia’s wife), Anne Winton

Chinese female characters: Angela Mao, Connie Chan Po Chu, Cheng Pei-Pei etc.

Who would you think the stars that are suitable to play the characters of the new mafia boss, his Karate fighters and the Chinese waiters as well as the beautiful female lead?
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LJF
Joined: December 6th, 2014, 3:05 am

March 9th, 2017, 11:05 am #2

By the way, just to talk a bit about the deleted scenes in WOTD.

Chuck Norris claimed that he appeared in a lot more scenes than what is shown in WOTD. One scene involved him attacking one of the waiters. This explains why Bruce (as Tang Lung) only brings Tony, Tommy and Jimmy to the Italian countryside.

There are two missing waiters – Wu Ngan and Robert Chan. If Chuck had beaten one of them, the other one could have been beaten by Bob Wall and Hwang In-Shik. This explains why these 2 have put aside their differences for the countryside ambush. This would have given the finale the sort of emotional content that Bruce harped on about in ETD.
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March 9th, 2017, 1:09 pm #3

No wonder only 3 guys showed up with Lee at the countryside.
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March 9th, 2017, 5:55 pm #4

Bruce told some of his co-workers like Chaplin Chang that he intended to make a sequel to WOTD and he liked Tang Lung, the main character very much. WOTD originally was made for the Asian audience. So, the sequel to WOTD would mainly for the International audience, especially the West after the success of ETD.

Remember at the ending of WOTD, Tang Lung’s uncle sent a telegram to ask Bruce to go somewhere else to help someone? This remark carries a foreshadowing of what is to follow later on in the sequel.

WOTD was initially scheduled to be shot in the U.S. and the background was the mafia gang v.s. a restaurant in Chinatown. Yet due to budget and other constraints, it was shot in Rome instead. For the sequel, it would be backed by WB with a bigger budget. Bruce should have filmed it in the U.S. since he would have moved back to his birth place after the huge success of ETD and upon completion of GAME.

Bruce penned his WOTD character’s name Tang Lung, literally means Chinese Dragon. In this sequel, he might want to introduce a new character, Tang Fu, literally means Chinese Tiger, his twin brother, which would be played by none other Bruce himself. Since nobody could match his ability. Bruce had long wanted to play 4 characters in his unmade movie, Silent Flute. So, this would sort of realized his dream despite it would be a greater challenge to him after playing cameo roles for a telephone technician, a rickshaw driver and an old newspaper vendor in FOF. Tang Hu, the younger twin brother, would have a diverse character as Tang Lung, much more sophisticated, intelligent, eloquent and well-groomed than his elder twin.

Again, this story would have similar themes to WOTD like the Mafia harassing the Chinese restaurant (maybe change to Chinese community) and Bruce was sent by his uncle to help his fellow country men overseas. Some of his good counterparts are fighters in their own rights who could play by Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Ron Van Clief.

Examples of casting candidates for consideration:

Mafia Boss: Marlon Brando or Jack Nicholson

Bad characters: Bob Baker, Bob Wall, Joe Lewis, Ed Parker, Yausaki Kurata, Jesse Glover, Howard Williams etc.

Chinese waiters/ sidekicks: Sam Hui, Peter Chin, Sammo Hung, Lee Kun, Lam Ching Ying, Yuen Wah, Bee Chan etc.

U.S. female characters: Sophia Loren or Barbara Streisand (as Mafia’s wife), Anne Winton

Chinese female characters: Angela Mao, Connie Chan Po Chu, Cheng Pei-Pei etc.

Who would you think the stars that are suitable to play the characters of the new mafia boss, his Karate fighters and the Chinese waiters as well as the beautiful female lead?
I'd like Jon Benn to cast as Mafia boss again, he may play the American cousin of the old Italian boss who was jailed.

The boss' wife could be played by the sexy Malissa Longo again but add a mistress to the film, that is Betty Ting Pei (LOL)

Tang Lung's good buddy: George Lazenby

Karate villains: Joe Lewis, Bill Wallace and Mike Stone

Female lead: Maria Yi (come on, give her a chance, not eveytime Nora Miao)

The title should be: "Dragon's showdown in California"
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March 9th, 2017, 6:41 pm #5

By the way, just to talk a bit about the deleted scenes in WOTD.

Chuck Norris claimed that he appeared in a lot more scenes than what is shown in WOTD. One scene involved him attacking one of the waiters. This explains why Bruce (as Tang Lung) only brings Tony, Tommy and Jimmy to the Italian countryside.

There are two missing waiters – Wu Ngan and Robert Chan. If Chuck had beaten one of them, the other one could have been beaten by Bob Wall and Hwang In-Shik. This explains why these 2 have put aside their differences for the countryside ambush. This would have given the finale the sort of emotional content that Bruce harped on about in ETD.
Source please? Never heard this and after 40 yrs, sounds speculative.
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March 13th, 2017, 6:06 am #6

I'd like Jon Benn to cast as Mafia boss again, he may play the American cousin of the old Italian boss who was jailed.

The boss' wife could be played by the sexy Malissa Longo again but add a mistress to the film, that is Betty Ting Pei (LOL)

Tang Lung's good buddy: George Lazenby

Karate villains: Joe Lewis, Bill Wallace and Mike Stone

Female lead: Maria Yi (come on, give her a chance, not eveytime Nora Miao)

The title should be: "Dragon's showdown in California"
of 3 bad guys in italian country side in the GMN illustrated story from 12/72......
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March 13th, 2017, 8:27 am #7

Source please? Never heard this and after 40 yrs, sounds speculative.
or perhaps they couldn't all fit in one car ..........
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LJF
Joined: December 6th, 2014, 3:05 am

March 14th, 2017, 7:26 am #8

Bruce told some of his co-workers like Chaplin Chang that he intended to make a sequel to WOTD and he liked Tang Lung, the main character very much. WOTD originally was made for the Asian audience. So, the sequel to WOTD would mainly for the International audience, especially the West after the success of ETD.

Remember at the ending of WOTD, Tang Lung’s uncle sent a telegram to ask Bruce to go somewhere else to help someone? This remark carries a foreshadowing of what is to follow later on in the sequel.

WOTD was initially scheduled to be shot in the U.S. and the background was the mafia gang v.s. a restaurant in Chinatown. Yet due to budget and other constraints, it was shot in Rome instead. For the sequel, it would be backed by WB with a bigger budget. Bruce should have filmed it in the U.S. since he would have moved back to his birth place after the huge success of ETD and upon completion of GAME.

Bruce penned his WOTD character’s name Tang Lung, literally means Chinese Dragon. In this sequel, he might want to introduce a new character, Tang Fu, literally means Chinese Tiger, his twin brother, which would be played by none other Bruce himself. Since nobody could match his ability. Bruce had long wanted to play 4 characters in his unmade movie, Silent Flute. So, this would sort of realized his dream despite it would be a greater challenge to him after playing cameo roles for a telephone technician, a rickshaw driver and an old newspaper vendor in FOF. Tang Hu, the younger twin brother, would have a diverse character as Tang Lung, much more sophisticated, intelligent, eloquent and well-groomed than his elder twin.

Again, this story would have similar themes to WOTD like the Mafia harassing the Chinese restaurant (maybe change to Chinese community) and Bruce was sent by his uncle to help his fellow country men overseas. Some of his good counterparts are fighters in their own rights who could play by Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Ron Van Clief.

Examples of casting candidates for consideration:

Mafia Boss: Marlon Brando or Jack Nicholson

Bad characters: Bob Baker, Bob Wall, Joe Lewis, Ed Parker, Yausaki Kurata, Jesse Glover, Howard Williams etc.

Chinese waiters/ sidekicks: Sam Hui, Peter Chin, Sammo Hung, Lee Kun, Lam Ching Ying, Yuen Wah, Bee Chan etc.

U.S. female characters: Sophia Loren or Barbara Streisand (as Mafia’s wife), Anne Winton

Chinese female characters: Angela Mao, Connie Chan Po Chu, Cheng Pei-Pei etc.

Who would you think the stars that are suitable to play the characters of the new mafia boss, his Karate fighters and the Chinese waiters as well as the beautiful female lead?
Unlike TBB and FOF which were completed within 1.5 months, WOTD was out of schedule and completed nearly 3 months (from early May ’72 to mid July ’72). More footage was definitely shot. According to WOTD’s assistant cameraman Leung Hey-Ming, WOTD was Bruce’s debut directorial work, thus, he had more reasons to shoot more to get the perfect takes for his final selection. As for Chuck Norris, he had stayed in HK for more than 3 weeks from 18th May till 13th Jun. and Wall until 15th Jun. According to Norris, it took him 3 days to complete the indoor Coliseum’s fight scene which started in early June. And about a day for him to shoot the Mafia Boss office scene with Hwang and Wall. So way before 10th Jun, Norris actually had completed his 2 important scenes and was staying behind to see the rest filming.

Leung remembers some rehearsals of Bruce, Norris, Wall, Hwang with some of the waiters and thugs were being shot but it was never intended for the actual film. This might be the reason why Norris had thought he filmed more than 2 scenes in HK. There were photos of waiter, Thomas Chan practicing with Wall and Norris outside GH studio and Unicorn kicking with Hwang at the New Territory. Wu Ngan who were missing from the countryside scene actually was present behind the scene as seen in the outdoor location photos in NT (refer to photos below this post).

Where were the 2 missing waiters – Wu Ngan and Robert Chan?
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Why Robert Chan and Wu Ngan were absent from the end Rome’s countryside scene? They were likely protecting Nora Miao and Gam Dai at the restaurant. Yet why the old Chef, Wong Chun Shun were accompanied by Tony Liu, Thomas Chan, Unicorn Chan and Bruce to meet the Mafia Boss? He was likely representing Nora Miao to head for the negotiation. Moreover, Wu Ngan and Robert Chan still didn’t appear when Gam Dai and Nora reached the countryside with the Police. Ok, say they were still at the restaurant but what for? It’s not operating as the Chef (Wong Chung Shun) was absent and both Gam Dai and Nora were out there with the police chasing the mafia boss until the countryside. These 2 martial arts practitioners should had more reasons to keep company with Gam and Nora.

Rome’s Cemetery scene
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The most mysterious part was only Gam Dai and Nora were at the Rome cemetery. Shouldn’t both Wu Ngan and Robert Chan be present to see their “restaurant brothers'” burials? In actual fact, Gam Dai didn’t fly to film the Rome’s cemetery scene and Bruce got Chaplin Chang to stand in for him (source: SK’s “Legends of The Dragon”). There’s a photo of Gam Dai and Nora being shot at the New Territory and a young onlooker was standing nearby. The scene where Bruce was waving to Gam actually was his stand-in, Chaplin Chang. It makes sense that both Wu Ngan and Robert Chan should be present at the funeral burial. If so, Bruce could get Ricky Chik and Leung Hey-Ming (both at Rome location shooting) to stand-in for Wu Ngan and Robert Chan respectively just like Chaplin Chang stand-in for Gam Dai. Bruce, being a meticulous guy and perfectionist wouldn’t miss this important details. So, what’s happening?

Death of the waiters
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Robert Chan told a Shanghainese fan, Lei in 2012 that he and Wu were “killed” when asked why both were missing at the ending scene. But how and by whom? He never elaborated. If look further in, it may happen that while Bruce and his team were at the countryside, the Mafia boss and his thugs went to look for Nora in the restaurant. Nora called the police. They had a fight and both Wu Ngan and Robert Chan were killed. The police arrived at the restaurant and arrested the injured thugs. The mafia boss escaped. The police together with Nora and Gam Dai gave chase. This explains why immediately after the boss arrived at the countryside and shot Paul Wei and Wong Chung Shun, the police followed behind and arrested him. Leung agreed that Bruce might have omitted these scenes as this would take up too much time and tightening the film was crucial. To call them delete scenes may not be appropriate since they have not been shot but omitted scenes would justify the above scenarios.

Photos of Norris and WOTD’s ending scene at NT: https://s24.postimg.org/4n4tfdktx/WOTDmissing.jpg


Photos of the WOTD’s cemetary scene and missing waiters: https://s23.postimg.org/z8v457yi3/WOTDcemetary.jpg


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March 15th, 2017, 12:43 am #9

Great research and insight.

Learn something...quite educational too.

THANKS LJF!
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Joined: December 5th, 2007, 1:05 am

March 15th, 2017, 2:02 am #10

Tang Lung at cemetary : "Ah Chuan has a car"

Wouldn't Wu Ngans character be alive if he were to drive the car ?
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