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September 24th, 2012, 10:19 pm #61


You're just some fool who needs to get a life and a name. I don't bother with anyone who starts trouble. Unicorn Chan did say that and it's a fact. I will NOT answer anymore of your BS. Period.

Rick
I don't know who the poster is, but he has provided a rock solid piece of evidence where we have Unicorn Chan on video saying that Lee never told him he was having headaches. I mean, that's a slam dunk. Whomever posted that youtube link, could have done so with out the harsh language towards you. And no one here should ever call anyone a fool. But, what he has done, is laid down a direct statement by Unicorn Chan (on video) saying he never heard Lee complaining about headaches. The poster has invited you to bring some proof of what you say to the debate. You never do that. You post here without providing one shred of evidence that what you say is true. Time to step up.
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September 25th, 2012, 9:52 am #62


"I don't know who the poster is, but he has provided a rock solid piece of evidence where we have Unicorn Chan on video saying that Lee never told him he was having headaches."

It was me, who gave the link, I found it in youtube by accident. I was searching any info about Bruce Lee from people who really know him close. I think it should be done plenty of such interviews back those time. Bruce Lee was the biggest star and I believe his sudden death was discussed a lot. But today after 40 years pretty hard to find the interviews.
The version with hashish doesn't look relevant at least for me. Because as I understood it based only on words 2 persons, dr.Wu and dr.Langford. Langford was those who said that Bruce Lee had just 1% of bodyfat, yes? Sorry, but that is ridicules! Any doctor explain you that is impossible. Then again, when, who and how was measured Bruce % bodyfat so accurate? Nowdays you can measured it by such methods as ultrasound and infrared radiation for example...but 40 years ago? We all can see Bruce Lee body had very low percent of fat, but not 1% for sure. If you google this issue you will find out for yourself proffesional sportmen often have very low % of bodyfat, around 10%. Elite marathon runners have the lowest % bodyfat..about 3-5%. I think almost like Bruce Lee. The sportmen going die? No!
As for the drug version, today we know many celebrities use drugs, much more serious drugs than marijuana, why they aren't afraid to die one day? Because it's not so easy.
So I still think that Bruce Lee was poisoned, strangely as his sify in his film "Fist of fury".
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September 25th, 2012, 2:20 pm #63

I don't know who the poster is, but he has provided a rock solid piece of evidence where we have Unicorn Chan on video saying that Lee never told him he was having headaches. I mean, that's a slam dunk. Whomever posted that youtube link, could have done so with out the harsh language towards you. And no one here should ever call anyone a fool. But, what he has done, is laid down a direct statement by Unicorn Chan (on video) saying he never heard Lee complaining about headaches. The poster has invited you to bring some proof of what you say to the debate. You never do that. You post here without providing one shred of evidence that what you say is true. Time to step up.
I've seen that video. It seems time that really affected people's memories, for nobody mentioned Bruce's headaches back then.
I do know of a small story regarding Lee's stuntmen, in the presence of Linda, regrettably discussing his demise, only to have her retort angrily, "it doesn't matter how how he died, what difference does it make, he's gone!" .. suggesting there may be more to this situation.
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September 25th, 2012, 2:29 pm #64

"I don't know who the poster is, but he has provided a rock solid piece of evidence where we have Unicorn Chan on video saying that Lee never told him he was having headaches."

It was me, who gave the link, I found it in youtube by accident. I was searching any info about Bruce Lee from people who really know him close. I think it should be done plenty of such interviews back those time. Bruce Lee was the biggest star and I believe his sudden death was discussed a lot. But today after 40 years pretty hard to find the interviews.
The version with hashish doesn't look relevant at least for me. Because as I understood it based only on words 2 persons, dr.Wu and dr.Langford. Langford was those who said that Bruce Lee had just 1% of bodyfat, yes? Sorry, but that is ridicules! Any doctor explain you that is impossible. Then again, when, who and how was measured Bruce % bodyfat so accurate? Nowdays you can measured it by such methods as ultrasound and infrared radiation for example...but 40 years ago? We all can see Bruce Lee body had very low percent of fat, but not 1% for sure. If you google this issue you will find out for yourself proffesional sportmen often have very low % of bodyfat, around 10%. Elite marathon runners have the lowest % bodyfat..about 3-5%. I think almost like Bruce Lee. The sportmen going die? No!
As for the drug version, today we know many celebrities use drugs, much more serious drugs than marijuana, why they aren't afraid to die one day? Because it's not so easy.
So I still think that Bruce Lee was poisoned, strangely as his sify in his film "Fist of fury".
I have to say, you have made valid points, and there's really not much to trust from those people around Bruce in those days. Even his wife may or may not have had an axe to grind, given the reported philandering of Bruce, openly, and unsuspectedly.
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January 3rd, 2013, 6:08 am #65

Yes, he looks strikingly different here than he does in The Big Boss/Fists of Fury. It would be interesting to know what diet and methods he was using to get down to such a low weight.
During those final months he was really into his Marcy Circuit Trainer, from what i've learned. So that and with his regular cardio and sparring he would do, its reasonable to say that's how he got down to such a low weight.
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January 3rd, 2013, 10:36 pm #66

So no way for that bullshit from R. Chow that Bruce was ill at his last days. R.Chow poisoned Bruce because he created his own company was going to make films by his own (and was gonna get money for that films of course). Chow and mafia thought that after murdered Bruce they put any guy in his yellow tracksuite and continue making money...but it wasn't the case...Bruce Lee is just one and no one could be as good as he. Period.
I agree. In his last pic he just looks slightly thinner then the Sammo Hung fight. And also only slightly thinner then how he looks in the Game of Death pics that are on this page. Just look how slim he is in the Innosanto outside photo. Because of Bruce's low body fat, any loss of muscle would be drastically noticeable. After Way of the Dragon he was probably concentrating more on cardio than weight lifting. And he probably wasn't lifting much weights during the final months of his life. Bruce was really focused on speed and was worried that he might become slower with really big muscles. Which is why his forearms massive compared to his biceps. Big biceps can make people slower.


Even in 1969 in this clip he isn't overly massive.

And in Longstreet he just has a bit more body fat mass.


I agree that something more happened, and kept happening on the months leading up to Bruce's death. Chow must have been shitting himself that he was about to loose his biggest asset. After the Enter the Dragon premier he would've been on the first flight to America with the biggest smile and chow would be back to square one. Desperate people do desperate things, and Raymond Chow must have been very desperate approaching July 20th 1973.

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January 4th, 2013, 6:29 pm #67

I think there are a error not 1969 but 1970 certainly.
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January 5th, 2013, 3:10 pm #68

I think your right. its 1970.

I just found this clip on youtube. Ive never seen it before, its absolutely fantastic. Makes me think that the atmosphere on Enter The Dragon wasn't as bad as people make out. It also makes me think that Bruce was in great mental health and really happy at the time. Is this part of Anna Capri's footage that she shot. Anybody know if there is more.

Great clip





Cheers



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January 6th, 2013, 2:41 am #69


"Lazenby said in an interview that he talked to Bruce on the phone early in the afternoon of July 20th and Bruce complained of having a bad headache. Lazenby told Bruce that we could cancel dinner that nite if he was feeling unwell. Bruce said, No, I said I'll be there and I will."

Yes, Lazenby said it. But he didn't say that Bruce complained about headache before. Then again does it mean he already got anything caused of the headache before he came to the place he got dead? Or headache didn't connect with his death at all...it can be a headache of many reason...well, eveybody could have headache sometimes. If he really had so mad headache as Lazenby told, why he just didn't call the doctor as he knew once he was about to die because of brain edema?
As for 10th of May did Bruce really use drugs that day? Was it his first time when he used it? And if yes, don't you just think it looks strange he continued use it after it? I heard Bruce was really scared of what happened with him at 10.05.1973. Maybe in the drug was some poison? Too many questions and still no answers.
This is very interesting talk by Chuck Norris at the San Diago Comic Con in 1975. If true it would mean that he died either by Betty Ting Pei & Raymond Chow's stupidity for not calling an ambulance sooner. Or Chow just saw an opportunity to get rid of Bruce & live of his legacy.


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Joined: February 11th, 2005, 4:28 am

January 6th, 2013, 3:12 pm #70

I think your right. its 1970.

I just found this clip on youtube. Ive never seen it before, its absolutely fantastic. Makes me think that the atmosphere on Enter The Dragon wasn't as bad as people make out. It also makes me think that Bruce was in great mental health and really happy at the time. Is this part of Anna Capri's footage that she shot. Anybody know if there is more.

Great clip





Cheers



Stephen
That is part of her footage. It was posted here a year or so ago, but I think it was removed. I watched it a couple of times. Seems like there was about 12 minutes of film?
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