Question about Jason Hart's Big Boss article

Joined: November 12th, 2015, 12:52 am

October 1st, 2017, 11:02 pm #311

Well, at least I'm not alone when it comes to Maria Yi's braids being completely unnecessary. LOL

Any other questions, mate?
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October 2nd, 2017, 9:47 am #312

Yes, why was the supposed setting of the Big Boss during the year of 1910 not emphasized more during the initial promotion of the film and over the subsequent decades that have elapsed since it was released? You almost never hear or read anything about the Big Boss being set in 1910.
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October 2nd, 2017, 10:06 am #313

I suppose Lo Wei/Golden Harvest simply saw no need on being specific in regards to the time setting of the Big Boss, considering the timelessness of the storyline it itself. The movie was a crime drama tale of Chinese diaspora struggle in Thailand. It could've taken place in 1910, '71 or even in modern times. The story would've remained mostly the same, IMO.
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October 5th, 2017, 12:26 am #314

The clothes scream early 70s.

Wasnt FoF to take place 1908 , yet baddies drive a 30s car lol , also I suspect some of the umbrellas in the intro were prolly not even invented yet (then theres the guy in 70s fashion walking by the park , hmmm)
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October 5th, 2017, 1:15 am #315

I don't really think the Big Boss was set in 1910, but perhaps it was and the limited budget and the general lack of detail hampered the ability or desire to convey the sentiment to the audience.
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October 5th, 2017, 1:35 am #316

The clothes scream early 70s.

Wasnt FoF to take place 1908 , yet baddies drive a 30s car lol , also I suspect some of the umbrellas in the intro were prolly not even invented yet (then theres the guy in 70s fashion walking by the park , hmmm)
While watching these films, the suspension of disbelief needs to be present, the sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment.
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October 5th, 2017, 2:11 am #317

Wu Chia-Hsiang intended on making a straightforward period drama when he was in control, with only very few fighting sequences interspersed here and there. Hsiu Chien (James Tien) was originally going to live instead of being killed, and the conclusion probably would've been radically different and not as breathtaking.

Suffice to say, he got sacked, and Lo Wei had a completely different vision for the project. He retained the dramatics and made them even more piercing (Cheng and Chiao Mei's spirits are torn into shreds by the end of BB), but also molded the remainder of movie into a "kung fu sex horror action" film. He ramped up the gore considerably, and included copious amounts of lurid sexual content for the sake of "fleshing" out the protagonist.

Either Lo Wei was unaware of Wu Chia's original period plan, or was forced to ditch it due to the crippling production troubles.

For all intents and purposes it is two movie projects combined into one, with Bruce Lee's oozing charisma serving as the linking chain.

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October 5th, 2017, 6:23 am #318

Can't help but think some are reading way too much into it personally.....

If you think Lo Wei (or anyone involved in the film including Bruce) really gave a sh1t about the where and why and timeframe/period of the Big Boss I think we would be mistaken.

They wanted to make a fighting film centred around revenge- end of.

Clothing, motor vehicles, morals of society, home life, all of this was just whatever they could get their hands on and whatever would fit into the storyline.

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October 5th, 2017, 6:45 am #319

I agree with this, so I am surprised to see posts about back stories, sequels, setting occurring in 1910, the history of Chinese workers in Taiwan, etc. The Big Boss's legacy is that it was Bruce Lee's first starring role. You all have to start somewhere and this was the beginning.
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October 5th, 2017, 5:23 pm #320

You don't have to think alike, and that's fine. but "reading too much into it" sounds akin to "reading way too much into Bruce Lee". It's a defeatist perspective that serves no practical purpose, not even as constructive criticism.

Without "reading too much into it", we wouldn't even know, among many other things, that Big Boss was partially based on the real life figure of Cheng Chi-Yong. We also wouldn't have the faintest clue that Ni Kuang was the one who conceived the initial drafts for Big Boss and Fist of Fury. By Kuang's own admission, much of the original FOF script was based on his own personal memories. For all we know, the same could be said for BB.

Perhaps me and others do go a bit overboard with the topic, but that's to be expected. It seems to me you're forcing yourself into a topic in which you apparently have no desire to dig any further.
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