Question about Jason Hart's Big Boss article

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September 12th, 2017, 1:50 am #301

By any chance you are familiar with the background of other as-of-yet nameless actresses in BB?
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September 12th, 2017, 1:51 am #302

I have been working on a big book project in-between the BLF poster mags and scrapbooks, and this will cover the BB in detail. The book timeline is 1969 - 72

Im hoping this will be a 2018 release

SK
I'm not sure if anyone can wait that long for the project, but at this point, it's better than nothing. Would it be okay to ask for more details?
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September 13th, 2017, 5:18 pm #303

From the first Nucleus magazine (published August 1997), a still from the very beginning of the final brothel sequence, where Cheng Chao-An slows down to catch his breath, and coincidentally (or deliberately?) stops outside the whorehouse......you already know how the rest goes ;)

Quite a rare photo that hasn't really been shown anywhere else outside of Jason Hart's Missing Big Boss article. He recently uncovered it again and this time provided the source of the pic, so props for him!

http://i.imgur.com/DIWyzjf.jpg
Miss those magazines
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September 29th, 2017, 7:07 am #304

+1

same with the Maria Yi interview where she mentions the saw-scene. Great article but few sources for transcripts
What year does it take place
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September 29th, 2017, 8:26 am #305

The movie takes place roughly around the same year it was shot (1971), when Thailand was receiving yet another migration wave of Chinese workers due to the catastrophe that was the "Cultural Revolution" of the mid 60's.

However, it was suggested by other users in this forum that BB was originally supposed to take place sometime in the early 20th century, when Chinese immigration to Siam was at it's highest peak. This is supported by the overly simplistic clothing that Cheng Chao-An, his companions and the local populace of Pak Chong dresses up, along with the rather decrepit shacks and lack of proper buildings shown throughout BB.

The labor conditions are horrid if not downright nonexistent, and there are still plenty of socioethnic conflicts and animosity between the Chinese and the Thai natives, perhaps deliberately stoked by Hsiao "Big Boss" Mi. Such dynamic is interesting, considering they are all kept in abject misery as much as possible.

It's almost as if the producers wanted to give a "Wild West" vibe when they decided to have the movie set in Pak Chong, which would certainly make sense considering it's rampant lawlessness and crippling poverty.

Chiao Mei herself is somewhat of a walking anachronism, if not an outright time capsule. Besides her traditional old style hair, she willingly constrains herself to the roles of housekeeper and damsel-in-distress, despite not being engaged in any formal relationship. (cont on next post)
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September 29th, 2017, 8:42 am #306

Despite being the only female in family, Chiao Mei still single-handily cooks, washes their clothes, and does all the work around the house. She takes care of the family and looks after them. However, when Chiao Mei’s brothers go missing, she has no other choice but to rely on her newly-arrived adoptive cousin and platonic love interest, Cheng Chao-an. However, Chao Mei’s problems and concerns are the last thing on his mind when he is promoted in the factory he is working at.

It would seem that the society that Chiao Mei and others hail from emphasizes that only men have the voice of authority, needs to go out to work for money, and provide for the family and women needs to stay home. From this, Chiao Mei doesn’t have the power and experience to go out to look for her brothers herself. Also, since she always relied on her brothers to bring in the money for the household, she is lost in how to go on and live her life. This is probably why, despite catching Cheng at the brothel's entrace, she chooses to turn the other cheek and not make an issue of his infidelity and irresponsibility, if only because she already expects the worse for her family and for better or for worse Cheng is all that she has left to rely on for support and companionship.

When Chiao Mei’s remaining siblings are ultimately killed off by Hsaio Mi’s men, they decide to spare Chiao Mei’s life. This is not because they considered her life of actual value. Her life was only saved for a life of a servant, prostitute or possibly both, depending on how fast Hsiao Mi grows bored of her. It’s unfortunate that Chiao Mei has no other choice but to accept it because she has no power to fight or stand up for herself. She has to accept it as her fate, and just go with it.

Later on in the film, Chiao Mei is saved from Hsaio Mi’s house not by Cheng Chao-An, who, in another glaring display of lack of commitment towards her, takes his time to "get busy" with another prostitute at the Thai brothel, and thereby becoming a willing patron to Hsiao Mi's ring. Instead, she is freed by a disgruntled server of the Boss, showing that not all is hopeless to Chiao Mei, as she can rely on solidarity between females and that it serves as an alternative to the a traditional damsel in distress narrative. She relies on a "hero" figure to come save her from her misfortune, and the "hero" turned out to be someone completely unreliable and fraught with his own vices and inner demons.
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September 29th, 2017, 8:56 am #307

I have been working on a big book project in-between the BLF poster mags and scrapbooks, and this will cover the BB in detail. The book timeline is 1969 - 72

Im hoping this will be a 2018 release

SK
The finest wine takes its time. Looking forward and hope it'll be available in quantity
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September 30th, 2017, 9:05 am #308

The movie takes place roughly around the same year it was shot (1971), when Thailand was receiving yet another migration wave of Chinese workers due to the catastrophe that was the "Cultural Revolution" of the mid 60's.

However, it was suggested by other users in this forum that BB was originally supposed to take place sometime in the early 20th century, when Chinese immigration to Siam was at it's highest peak. This is supported by the overly simplistic clothing that Cheng Chao-An, his companions and the local populace of Pak Chong dresses up, along with the rather decrepit shacks and lack of proper buildings shown throughout BB.

The labor conditions are horrid if not downright nonexistent, and there are still plenty of socioethnic conflicts and animosity between the Chinese and the Thai natives, perhaps deliberately stoked by Hsiao "Big Boss" Mi. Such dynamic is interesting, considering they are all kept in abject misery as much as possible.

It's almost as if the producers wanted to give a "Wild West" vibe when they decided to have the movie set in Pak Chong, which would certainly make sense considering it's rampant lawlessness and crippling poverty.

Chiao Mei herself is somewhat of a walking anachronism, if not an outright time capsule. Besides her traditional old style hair, she willingly constrains herself to the roles of housekeeper and damsel-in-distress, despite not being engaged in any formal relationship. (cont on next post)
How would the sequels deal with Cheng Chao-An Thai prison predicament? Does he have a younger brother with the blueprints tattooed on his body to help escape?
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September 30th, 2017, 6:05 pm #309

I'd wager that the Prison breakout would be the first act of whichever BB sequel we would get.

Maybe have Cheng reluctantly participate in an illegal boxing tournament that goes on within the prison.

I wouldn't mind the presence of a younger brother character (Jackie Chan or Alexander Fu Sheng).
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October 1st, 2017, 10:45 pm #310

I thought you and a guy who goes by "lonesome space" at another forum were the same guy since you share the same enthusiasm about the Big Boss and even made similar comments concerning Maria Yi's hair. I stand corrected.
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