CNN Article on Matthew Polly Book

CNN Article on Matthew Polly Book

Joined: February 11th, 2005, 4:28 am

July 11th, 2018, 10:13 am #1

Dated July 7, 2018. Says Linda and Shannon didnt reply to their request for interview after book was released. Also says that Doug Palmer has a book coming out.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/07/us/bruce ... index.html
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Joined: July 24th, 2015, 3:19 am

July 11th, 2018, 4:05 pm #2

Can't wait for Doug Palmer's book.
"All type of knowledge ultimately means self-knowledge"
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JTF
Joined: June 21st, 2018, 10:03 pm

July 11th, 2018, 11:47 pm #3

"Lee didn't have many street fights as an adult..." Ah, no.

- Multiple street fights with Seattle student Skip Ellsworth in tow.

- Fight at the YMCA witnessed by Seattle students Jesse Glover and Ed Hart.

- 1963 street fight in Hong Kong witnessed by Seattle student Doug Palmer.

- Fight with Wong Jack Man.

- Road rage fight witnessed by Dan Inosanto.

- Two separate fights on the set of Enter The Dragon. One witnessed by Bob Wall and other by Chaplin Chang.

- Fight with an intruder at his home in Hong Kong. Bruce told student Herb Jackson about this incident.

Compare that to "real fighters" such as Joe Lewis, Mike Stone, and Chuck Norris. Lewis states he engaged in a grand total of two street fights in his adult life, Stone avoided getting into a street fight, and Norris' lone street fight occurred in a bar when he was in the service. The only "real fighter" from Lee's era that could boast of a similar street fighting resume would be Jim Harrison.
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Joined: January 17th, 2014, 1:19 am

July 12th, 2018, 12:45 am #4

I hope the listing all of Bruce Lee's alleged street fights isn't meant to be complimentary but rather an indictment of arrested development.
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Joined: June 21st, 2018, 10:03 pm

July 12th, 2018, 4:18 pm #5

PD: My listing is simply a rebuttal to an erroneous claim. The list also repudiates the narrative put forth by Davis Miller that Bruce magically transformed from his "King Gorilla" days in Hong Kong, to a person who generally avoided sparring and/or street fighting.  
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Joined: December 19th, 2017, 9:38 pm

July 13th, 2018, 12:04 am #6

One thing to note is that most of BL's 'other' fights were not with equal opponents, of the same weight class, nor were they necessarily to the knock-out. In many of them the opponent, unknown to them, they were very out-classed.

This is not the same as a 'fight record' between equal opponents. Is it more or less 'real'? Hard to say exactly. But the list gives credence to the notion that BL -was- a fighter and not just a movie actor.

I will point out that what we saw him do in the movie fights was completely stage fighting and did not consist of 'real fighting' methods. Like stage fighting using swords (the most common type) most real street fights are over in a few seconds.

Given that, BL's stage fighting methods were head and shoulders above the endless back and forth of the common movie fights of that era, which is why we can appreciate them.
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Joined: June 21st, 2018, 10:03 pm

July 13th, 2018, 4:49 am #7

Part of Bruce Lee's genius was his ability to weave movie fighting techniques in with his art of JKD. His fight with Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon is a treasure trove of techniques that are part of JKD. Examples include the oblique kick, hand/leg feints, lead hand strike, the asking hand, and the lead leg obstruction.   
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