BRUCE THE FINAL DAYS!!!

Joined: September 12th, 2011, 9:14 pm

January 11th, 2013, 8:00 pm #51

I don't think Lo Wei even after the knife incident. Wei is in bits in this interview and at the funeral. Saying that Jackie Chan had to run away to Canada cuz Lo Wei had a price on his head until Wang Yu stepped in.

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You must know that Mr. Lo, before becoming a director, was a matinee idol actor in his younger days?
With Bruce recently departed you actually expect him to behave otherwise? The way he was bawling and sniffling, you'd have thought his wife died.

Wei to go!
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January 11th, 2013, 8:15 pm #52

can anyone tell me happened that day? and who witnessed what???
Supposedly, Lo, his wife, a few others were in a screening room viewing one of GH's latest hacks... Lee in his
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January 11th, 2013, 8:49 pm #53

can anyone tell me happened that day? and who witnessed what???
Supposedly, Lo, his wife, a few others were in a screening room viewing one of GH's latest hacks... Lee in his offices, had given interviews when someone mentioned Lo took credit for making him a star.. Learning Lo was present, Lee decided to bound into the offices and give the director a piece of his mind.

Lo's account:

"Lee busts into screening room-"what makes you so special?! You beast in human's clothes! (In Cantonese)" Bruce stood over Wei as if ready to pounce. Lo continues: "I dare not move for he is expert.." The staff all rush in and pull Bruce out and into another room to cool off. Moments later Li LiHua Lo's wife comes in to admonish Lee's behavior stating he should have more respect and so forth...
Bruce flies into a frenzy and again approaches Lo in the darkened screening room, leans in close, and this time, pulls a knife from his belt buckle. He points it at Lo's chest... "Do you think I could kill you with one stab?" Lo recalled. "I dare not move."
The Police were called. Lee gave the knife to Linda, who removed it from sight. Lo told the cops he "feared for his safety," and "would not feel at ease" until "Lee signs a statement, declaring; I, BRUCE LEE, PROMISE TO LEAVE LO WEI ALONE." Which Bruce did under the pressure of the situation. He later regretted doing so because it incriminated him and his behavior toward the director.

Lee later that night went on EYT givingg his account in the now infamous event of shoving the host quite harshly. Ten days later Bruce was dead.
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January 12th, 2013, 3:22 am #54

What exactly did Lee say in that interview? I really can't figure how Lo and Chow would benefit from Lee's death......especially Chow....Lee was wroth more alive than dead, to Chow especially; also Lo and if the triads were involved......he would have made the Hong Kong film industry more attractive to many outsiders and insiders in Hong Kong would have benefitted, generating more revenue, Kung fu films in general would have sky rocketed around the world after ETD and put Hong Kong on the map with many film production companies wanting to film there; drugs, extortion and prostitution, which are the Triads big source of income, from what I gather, would have flourished!!....Also, I here allot of "he said", "she said" info but no concrete evidence other than the actual verdict or poisoning that makes sense.....and the biggest thing is May 10th....if that never happened Lee's death would be more of a mystery, but the fact that, that, happened makes most of the theories disappear and I am left with the original verdict or poisoning......nothing else adds up to me....but the more I think about it poisoning is less and less likely too. Just to let you know, I have read everything on Lee and seen interviews as far back as the early 70's.....I use to have a huge collection but sold it off in the early 90's......what's new about his death now I have heard before but no one ever could prove it.....and after 40's yrs now something other than the original verdict would have surfaced....especially if there was more than one person involved.

Just my opinion.

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January 12th, 2013, 4:12 am #55

Please do a little research on Triads and the HK Entertainment Industry. The term Tea Money is associated with their strong armed tactical methods with skimming profits off the income of Entertainers. These methods I define as strong armed include:

*Threatening
*Drug running
*Shutting down productions/Income opportunities
*Rape
*Ruining reputations and images
*Sending people to prison falsely
*Murder

This stuff is real, man. If you don't believe check with the careers of the following :

Jackie Chan
Chow Yun Fat
Jet Li
Jimmy Wang Yu
Chen Wo-Fu
Fu Sheng
Leslie Chueng
Linda Lin Dai
Anita Mui
Sammo Hung
Chan Wai Man
Charles Hueng
Well the top 3 are big stars and are still alive and managed to cross over to America with no problems, most of the rest accept for Hung I don't know much about...... but, it just don't add up to me.....Lee was a bigger star than all top 3 I pointed out......Triads are a street gang that are nothing like the Mafia from what I gather from what I read about them.......and the triad link with Lee has a rating of -10 on a scale of 1 to 10 possibility according to every investigation I have read since the 70's.....I am not trying to say your theories aren't interesting and am not trying to discard you, every theory needs to be looked at, but I am just saying this one has the least evidence.

Just My opinion.

Take care.
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January 12th, 2013, 12:24 pm #56

So Stephen... How about this:
On July 20th, Lee sits down to write a letter to his attorney to inform him he's done with Chow. Lee may or may not have gotten a call from Chow and or some strong armed backers.. Lee tells Linda to leave the house, and take the kids.
The strong arms arrive, they beat Lee about the head with an object that leaves no marks... He's taken to Betty's.

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Yes i believe thats a very big possibility that Lee was done with Chow and wanted to call it quits. Chow's version of events dictates that he was scheduled to meet with Bruce that evening to discuss The Game of Death. In fact Bruce was going to meet Chow to discuss his lack of profits from the hugely HK successful Way of the Dragon. Bruce should have been raking in the money from the profits, but he practically didn't have a dime. What people haven't discussed is that if Chow was scheduled to meet Bruce that evening for dinner then why the hell was Chow on the other side of Hong Kong!!!! Was he going to meet Bruce for dinner at 12am or 1am in the morning. Nonsense.

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January 12th, 2013, 3:41 pm #57

True. And, why do they need to meet for dinner that evening, if they were going to "hear Chow out" earlier, that afternoon?
It appears to me, Chow kept the 'dinner with Lazenby' engagement to distance himself from the events that led to Lee not being present. He could always say, "I've been here with George, alll this time.' And, how did Betty know where Chow would be unless she was told previously? Chow was probably one of the last people Bruce wanted to dine with at the time.
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January 12th, 2013, 7:42 pm #58

Exactly. Your 100% right about Betty, How would she know where and when to get in contact with Chow. Also there weren't mobile phone in the 70s. :-)

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January 12th, 2013, 8:43 pm #59

First of all, it was stated back in '73 by none other than James Coburn,(attempting to lure Lee back to The Silent Flute project by FOX), Lee said to him when he visited HK: " If Paramount can give Brando a million dollars, The Shaws can do the same here, for me." It was a plan of Lee's and a ploy to make a real quality MA film with the biggest studio in Southeast Asia, The Shaw Bros., on his terms. Shaw had already sent a correspondance asking Lee to "name his price." Various writers had begun preparing scripts, and director's names began to get tossed about. Chor Yuan was believed to have an inside track because of his "friendship" with Lee. Run Run also had people at every level inside the production of ETD who reported all information on the project, actually believing it may not finish due to the difficulties between the HK and US crews. Raymond Chow was aware of Shaws tampering with Lee, and really didn't set well with the idea.
Game of Death was being filmed and passed off as an idea Lee had "floating" around. According to Tom Bleecker, Linda Lee's 2nd hubby, Lee was not under contract with a studio, and had only formed Concord partnering with Chow, and the Triads were hot on Bruce's ass for co-operation, Tea Money.
Therefore, GOD was shot in GH Studios, with their equipment, but without contracted production people. It was similar to the production of WOTD, but even moreso this time around. That's why Lee did so much himself, even set design and Cinematography. You honestly think there were no competent people to assist with this production? Remember the stories about Lee being upset at Raymond about finances regarding WOTD? They were told, do not work on this production; another reason Bruce looked toward his comrades in the US to act is, he couldn't use Triad employed actors. James Tien and Chieh Yuen were not contracted by the studio at the time. It's another reason Lee went to the New Territories to shoot, and rehearse. GOD was also going to be made in Korea, outside HK, where certain non contracted actors could work freely. Sammo, who was originally cast by Bruce to play Chieh Yuen's role, bailed on Lee, pretending he didn't know the production had started. He was GH's in-house choreographer. It was his job to know about productions. Strange eh? Lee insisted he be there for ETD so he wouldn't lose face and Sammo relented.
No my friends it wasn't a rumour, Lee intended to make a Shaw film, if for no other reason than to "thumb his nose" at Chow, and Shaw could have protected Lee... who also referred to Run Run as "Uncle". When Jimmy Wang Yu wanted his independance from Shaws, a deal was made, however, he could never film a movie in HK again... and that was '70-'71!!! before Lee's career took off! What would be Lee's (who became way bigger that Jimmy Wang Yu overnight), severence pay for leaving Chow, the man who gave him his "chance" for his most hated rival?....
Great read, thanks. Very true about the triads in the HK film industry. Raymond Chow and Low Wei did believe that Bruce owed them for his success. They thought they were the ones who made Bruce but it was the other way around. Golden Harvest was a hack company before Bruce showed up. Lo Wei even called himself Hong Kong's first millionaire director. He even suggested that he had to help Bruce with the fight choreography. W.T.F! Saying that while Bruce was a good street fighter, he found it necessary to teach bruce how to fight on screen. Nonsense. If Run Run Shaw wasn't stubborn & have accepted Bruce's first offer to make one film in 1970, then maybe the world would still have Bruce Lee. Instead Shaw offered Bruce their standard junior actors contract so Bruce declined. After Bruce's previous successes and the upcoming success of Enter the Dragon, Bruce didn't need or want Chow anymore. And your right, Bruce could literally name his price. Warner Bros were already pushing projects Bruce's way. Shaw Brother's were sending blank cheques. Bruce even asked for around HK$3million to do a film for shaw. Bruce was about to become the biggest star in the world. His future was secured. But Chow could not let that happen. The HK film industry has a hierarchal structure that had to be abided by. Bruce was changing this. He wouldn't work for peanuts, he would make sure stuntmen and staff were taken care off. This must have been unthinkable to the big cheeses running the show at the top. They couldn't let this happen and they couldn't let other actors follow Bruce & demanding more for their skills and talent. Only the big cheeses made money. Not actors. It even continued right up until the 1980s with Jackie Chan, with Lo Wei threatening Jackie with his triad friends to force him to continue to make films for him. Jimmy Wang Yu was able to help Jackie with his own triad connections. Rumour has it that Jimmy had someone killed to get Jackie off Lo Wei's radar. In return Jackie had to star in a couple of Wang Yu's films. Bruce should have got the hell out of there. Bruce was opening too many doors and had to be taken care off as an example to others. Enter Betty Ting Pei & Raymond Chow with the perfect plan.

Bruce was too American for the Hong Kong triads, he would never bend over or accept their ways. Its a shame poor Bruce never got to experience the acceptance he would've got after Enter the Dragon form the west.

Cheers

Stephen
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January 12th, 2013, 11:31 pm #60

Bruce should have left HK after FOF. Instead he moved the family there. Chow saw Lee's potential surprisingly before anyone else. However, he never had Lee's best interest-only his own. Too bad Run Run was too stubborn to make an exception for Lee since he did have Hollywood success from a Chinese point of view.
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