Bruce Lee & The “Choy Li Fut” Connections

Bruce Lee & The “Choy Li Fut” Connections

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August 16th, 2015, 3:32 am #1

Choy Li Fut Kung Fu
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“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." – Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).

Besides Wing Chun, Bruce Lee studied and learnt various styles of martial arts from various masters in HK, such as Taiji, Hong Gar, Preying Mantis, Kung-Li, Jeet Kune, Boxing, Choy Li Fut etc. Bruce learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan in HK and from Richard Leung (a friend as well as a Choy Li Fut Master from HK) in Seattle. Choy Li Fut was founded in 1836 by Chan Heung. It was named to honor the Buddhist monk Choy Fook who taught him Choy Gar, and Li Yau-Sa who taught him Li Gar, plus his uncle Chan Yuen-Wu, who taught him Fut Gar, and developed to honor the Buddha and the Shaolin roots of the system.

This 3-in-1 system combines the martial arts techniques from various Northern and Southern Chinese kung-fu systems; the powerful arm and hand techniques from the Shaolin animal forms from the South, combined with the extended, circular movements, twisting body, and agile footwork that characterizes Northern China's martial arts. It is considered an external style, combining soft and hard techniques, as well as incorporating a wide range of weapons as part of its curriculum. Choy Li Fut is an effective self-defense system, particularly noted for defense against multiple attackers. It contains a wide variety of techniques, including long and short range punches, kicks, sweeps and take downs, pressure point attacks, joint locks, and grappling. Although it has a only a history of 100 years, it has been widely spread to southern provinces of China, HK, Macau, Southeast Asia and the rest of the world.

Like Wing Chun and Hong Gar, Choy Li Fut is well-known for its practicality and aggressiveness in real fighting. For instance, the “Knuckle Fist” is originated from Choy Li Fut. As a quick learner, Bruce picked up the essential parts of Choy Li Fut within a short period of time. He incorporated it into his Jun Fan Kung Fu. They could be seen in the demonstrations between Bruce and Taky Kiumura in his first martial arts book, “Chinese Gung Fu – The Philosophical Art of Self-Defence” published in 1963. Also, he used the “Knuckle Fist” in many of his early Kung Fu demos. There is a photo of Bruce performing “Knuckle Fist” with Jesse Glover in the International Trade Fair in 1961.

Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak
============================
According to the Chinese “Kung Fu” magazine interview in HK, Bruce personally admitted that he learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan, who was a second-world war hero, retired and living in HK in the 1950s. One day, while visiting a friend in Wong Tai Sin, he passed by a park and saw an elderly man practicing Kung Fu with 2 young men. Bruce observed for a while and started to criticise their Kung Fu style for being too fanciful, movements being too big and were impractical in real fighting. The elderly man overheard and asked Bruce to spar with him. Bruce agreed confidently. However, he soon found the opponent was too strong for him. To Bruce's surprise he was unable to penetrate into his opponent’s defense no matter how hard he tried. His opponent looked totally composed and relaxed as the situation was in his control. Bruce was almost knocked out by the elderly man. Finally, Bruce admitted defeat and earnestly pleaded the elderly man to take him in as his student. The elderly man was Master Chan Nien-Pak who accepted Bruce as his student and taught him Choy Li Fut for about 3 years. Bruce had also sparred with the 2 young men who were Master Chan’s sons but did not gain any advantage. Bruce was then convinced that this was a practical style that he needed to study for his street fighting.

Bruce Lee & Dave Macey
====================
Master Dave Lacey is a famous Choy Li Fut Kung Fu Master who first taught Choy Li Fut Kung Fu in Perth (1966) and Melbourne (1989) and eventually relocated to California in 1995. His school was named The 'Buck Sing Gwoon.' According to Master Dacey, he was born in HK and began his martial arts training in 1958 with Bruce Lee and several other schoolmates of St. Francis Xavier's College on the rooftop of a nearby apartment block. They practiced Wing Chun. Dave first heard Bruce talked about Choy Li Fut and of a guy whom Bruce had a lot of respect for as a fighter. He was Richard Leung Yum-Gung whom Bruce had befriended. Bruce told Dave that Richard's hard forearms were so powerful that both he and his fellow Si-Hing (Senior student in Kung Fu) could not stop Richard's heavy swinging punches. It was obvious to Dave that whenever Bruce talked about Richard or Choy Li Fut, he was in awe of the style.

At the beginning of 1959, Bruce left Hong Kong for the United States but on the night before he boarded the liner for a new life in America, the 18 years old Bruce visited Dave at his home in Kimberly Rd., Kowloon, to bid farewell to his friend. Bruce talked of finding fame in America and Dave remembers clearly Bruce's words that night when he said, "When I get to America I will become famous with my Gung Fu." Although only 18, Bruce Lee was full of ambition and determination to succeed in his quest for recognition and fame in America.

Bruce Lee & Richard Leung
======================
Master Richard Leung was born in HK and he befriended with Bruce after their sparring in the 1950s. He is a third generation Buk Sing stylist, who developed his skills under the tutelage of Lai Chou. His experiences include bare-knuckle bouts and coaching in HK. By the end of 1959 Richard Leung also left Hong Kong to further his studies in America in Washington D.C. but after much persuasion from Bruce, he later moved to Seattle where the two got together to train martial arts and exchange Kung Fu knowledge. After his graduation, Master Leung stayed in U.S. and helped to pioneer the art of Kung Fu in San Francisco, in the early 1960s, and continues to be a true practitioner of the Art. He was also a friend of David Lacey. Currently, Master Leung is teaching Buk Sing Choy Li Fat in Toronto, Canada.

HK's Street Fights & Feuds
=====================
Growing up as a teenager in the 1950's in HK in an environment of antisocial tension Dave, like Bruce, found himself a favorite target for street confrontations and fights with hostile street gang members or other individuals seeking a reputation for themselves as tough guys. As he did not belong to any street gang, Dave realised that his only option was to learn the dynamic fighting art of Choy Li Fut, a style originally developed for warfare and therefore had to be both practical and effective. It was not surprising that in the early 1960's Bruce Lee had high praise of Choy Li Fut and saw it as an effective fighting system for fighting multiple attackers and was one of the most difficult styles to attack and to defend against. These and other comments Bruce made back in 1958 in HK incited Dave to learn Choy Li Fut in early 1959.

He learnt Choy Li Fut under two famous young masters of the Buck Sing branch of Choy Li Fut. When some of Dave's friends who were friends and fellow Wing Chun colleagues of Bruce found out that Dave was learning Choy Li Fut, they got offended and began to ridicule and taunt him. One of them was a guy by the name of Hawkins Cheung. They kept rubbishing Choy Li Fut and trying to convince him that their Wing Chun was superior etc. but Dave remained undaunted.

The fact that Dave had done a few months training in Wing Chun with them (and Bruce) they expected loyalty from him and strongly resented him learning Choy Li Fut - a style that Bruce himself had often spoken highly of and had a lot of respect for. The conflict between them escalated into a feud and eventually led to a challenge duel on the rooftop of a building in Kowloon City. Dave kept his appointment but the other party never showed up for the challenge match. News of these private or secret challenge matches traveled abroad and it was through Richard Leung that Bruce Lee in U.S. was kept informed of the current occurrences on the HK martial arts scene.

Similar to Bruce, Dave engaged in numerous HK street fights and won most of the times. In October of 1961, the controversy over the sensational 3 days newspaper coverage on a secretly held fight match between a 20 years old Choy Li Fut fighter and a 28 year old Wing Chun Master (in a car park behind the North Kowloon Supreme Court) generated great excitement in the local Chinese Martial Arts community. For the first time a non-full blood Chinese had gained recognition and respect in the HK Chinese Martial Arts circles.

In the following week, Dave's name was to appear again in the local Chinese journal and he became known as the "Black Panther" of Choy Li Fut in an article announcing a "Five vs. Five" challenge match between Choy Li Fut and it's rival school's top selected fighters. This match was to be held at a secret location in the New Territories. When rumors circulated that Choy Li Fut's rival had contacted Bruce Lee in the U.S. to try to persuade him to come back to take part in the grudge match, Dave knew from Lai Hung's remarks who would be fighting Bruce Lee if he returned. With the publicity surrounding this illegal match and the legal risks taken by those involved, the chosen referee pulled out and no one wanted to be implicated in such a sensational grudge match. Facing a dilemma, the match was postponed.

Bruce & Macey’s Reunion & Farewell
=============================
It was not till 1963, four years later that Dave and Bruce met again on the streets of HK. In those 4 years saw many new changes and challenges that shaped their lives and destiny. When both of them met again that day, it was a moment of anxiety for the two old friends but they were excited and happy to see each other again. Bruce told Dave of his life in America - his fights and encounters with other martial artists and of the recognition and respect he gained from his Kung Fu skills. He also spoke of Richard Leung who had joined him in Seattle where they got together to train in martial arts - something that Bruce had wanted to do for quite some time as he always had a strong desire to learn Choy Li Fut in-depth from Richard Leung besides from Master Chan.

Neither Dave nor Bruce realised when they parted company in 1963 that it was to be the last time they would see each other. In July of 1973, almost 10 years to that day, Dave heard of the sad news of his friend's sudden and tragic death. Bruce died in HK at the young age of 32. In life he had lived to see the pinnacle of his success and fame and saw his dreams all come true, and in death he left a name that was to be immortalised in martial arts around the world.

Though Dave never saw Bruce again, he was fortunate enough to meet two of his former students (of the 1960's era, probably Jesse Glover and James Demile) many years later at a martial arts competition in America when they came up to him and introduced themselves. They told him that they knew of him well because Bruce had on occasions mentioned his name and had spoken commendably of him to his students. Knowing Bruce had shared his sentiments about his old friend with his students left little doubt on Dave's mind that Bruce had always valued their friendship and had not forgotten him the years they lived worlds apart.

Bruce, Macey & Richard Leung photos: http://postimg.org/image/aj7yt0wyb/

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August 16th, 2015, 11:20 am #2

Thanks LJF. I always felt that there wasn't much information about Lee's real life experiences in martial arts during his early Hong Kong years. The only person I remember that enlisted Bruce's gung fu knowledge was Dan Inonsato who said in an interview for Jeet Kune Do documentary that Bruce studied wu style of tai chi, western boxing, fencing, wing chun, bok pai (or tam toi) and choy li fut. I belive Lee had also some training in preying mentis and some northern styles of gung fu.
I heard there is this book "Bruce Lee The Evolution of a Martial Artist" - is it any good regarding Bruce's technicalities in martia arts?
Tkanks again.
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August 16th, 2015, 10:12 pm #3

Choy Li Fut Kung Fu
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“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." – Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).

Besides Wing Chun, Bruce Lee studied and learnt various styles of martial arts from various masters in HK, such as Taiji, Hong Gar, Preying Mantis, Kung-Li, Jeet Kune, Boxing, Choy Li Fut etc. Bruce learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan in HK and from Richard Leung (a friend as well as a Choy Li Fut Master from HK) in Seattle. Choy Li Fut was founded in 1836 by Chan Heung. It was named to honor the Buddhist monk Choy Fook who taught him Choy Gar, and Li Yau-Sa who taught him Li Gar, plus his uncle Chan Yuen-Wu, who taught him Fut Gar, and developed to honor the Buddha and the Shaolin roots of the system.

This 3-in-1 system combines the martial arts techniques from various Northern and Southern Chinese kung-fu systems; the powerful arm and hand techniques from the Shaolin animal forms from the South, combined with the extended, circular movements, twisting body, and agile footwork that characterizes Northern China's martial arts. It is considered an external style, combining soft and hard techniques, as well as incorporating a wide range of weapons as part of its curriculum. Choy Li Fut is an effective self-defense system, particularly noted for defense against multiple attackers. It contains a wide variety of techniques, including long and short range punches, kicks, sweeps and take downs, pressure point attacks, joint locks, and grappling. Although it has a only a history of 100 years, it has been widely spread to southern provinces of China, HK, Macau, Southeast Asia and the rest of the world.

Like Wing Chun and Hong Gar, Choy Li Fut is well-known for its practicality and aggressiveness in real fighting. For instance, the “Knuckle Fist” is originated from Choy Li Fut. As a quick learner, Bruce picked up the essential parts of Choy Li Fut within a short period of time. He incorporated it into his Jun Fan Kung Fu. They could be seen in the demonstrations between Bruce and Taky Kiumura in his first martial arts book, “Chinese Gung Fu – The Philosophical Art of Self-Defence” published in 1963. Also, he used the “Knuckle Fist” in many of his early Kung Fu demos. There is a photo of Bruce performing “Knuckle Fist” with Jesse Glover in the International Trade Fair in 1961.

Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak
============================
According to the Chinese “Kung Fu” magazine interview in HK, Bruce personally admitted that he learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan, who was a second-world war hero, retired and living in HK in the 1950s. One day, while visiting a friend in Wong Tai Sin, he passed by a park and saw an elderly man practicing Kung Fu with 2 young men. Bruce observed for a while and started to criticise their Kung Fu style for being too fanciful, movements being too big and were impractical in real fighting. The elderly man overheard and asked Bruce to spar with him. Bruce agreed confidently. However, he soon found the opponent was too strong for him. To Bruce's surprise he was unable to penetrate into his opponent’s defense no matter how hard he tried. His opponent looked totally composed and relaxed as the situation was in his control. Bruce was almost knocked out by the elderly man. Finally, Bruce admitted defeat and earnestly pleaded the elderly man to take him in as his student. The elderly man was Master Chan Nien-Pak who accepted Bruce as his student and taught him Choy Li Fut for about 3 years. Bruce had also sparred with the 2 young men who were Master Chan’s sons but did not gain any advantage. Bruce was then convinced that this was a practical style that he needed to study for his street fighting.

Bruce Lee & Dave Macey
====================
Master Dave Lacey is a famous Choy Li Fut Kung Fu Master who first taught Choy Li Fut Kung Fu in Perth (1966) and Melbourne (1989) and eventually relocated to California in 1995. His school was named The 'Buck Sing Gwoon.' According to Master Dacey, he was born in HK and began his martial arts training in 1958 with Bruce Lee and several other schoolmates of St. Francis Xavier's College on the rooftop of a nearby apartment block. They practiced Wing Chun. Dave first heard Bruce talked about Choy Li Fut and of a guy whom Bruce had a lot of respect for as a fighter. He was Richard Leung Yum-Gung whom Bruce had befriended. Bruce told Dave that Richard's hard forearms were so powerful that both he and his fellow Si-Hing (Senior student in Kung Fu) could not stop Richard's heavy swinging punches. It was obvious to Dave that whenever Bruce talked about Richard or Choy Li Fut, he was in awe of the style.

At the beginning of 1959, Bruce left Hong Kong for the United States but on the night before he boarded the liner for a new life in America, the 18 years old Bruce visited Dave at his home in Kimberly Rd., Kowloon, to bid farewell to his friend. Bruce talked of finding fame in America and Dave remembers clearly Bruce's words that night when he said, "When I get to America I will become famous with my Gung Fu." Although only 18, Bruce Lee was full of ambition and determination to succeed in his quest for recognition and fame in America.

Bruce Lee & Richard Leung
======================
Master Richard Leung was born in HK and he befriended with Bruce after their sparring in the 1950s. He is a third generation Buk Sing stylist, who developed his skills under the tutelage of Lai Chou. His experiences include bare-knuckle bouts and coaching in HK. By the end of 1959 Richard Leung also left Hong Kong to further his studies in America in Washington D.C. but after much persuasion from Bruce, he later moved to Seattle where the two got together to train martial arts and exchange Kung Fu knowledge. After his graduation, Master Leung stayed in U.S. and helped to pioneer the art of Kung Fu in San Francisco, in the early 1960s, and continues to be a true practitioner of the Art. He was also a friend of David Lacey. Currently, Master Leung is teaching Buk Sing Choy Li Fat in Toronto, Canada.

HK's Street Fights & Feuds
=====================
Growing up as a teenager in the 1950's in HK in an environment of antisocial tension Dave, like Bruce, found himself a favorite target for street confrontations and fights with hostile street gang members or other individuals seeking a reputation for themselves as tough guys. As he did not belong to any street gang, Dave realised that his only option was to learn the dynamic fighting art of Choy Li Fut, a style originally developed for warfare and therefore had to be both practical and effective. It was not surprising that in the early 1960's Bruce Lee had high praise of Choy Li Fut and saw it as an effective fighting system for fighting multiple attackers and was one of the most difficult styles to attack and to defend against. These and other comments Bruce made back in 1958 in HK incited Dave to learn Choy Li Fut in early 1959.

He learnt Choy Li Fut under two famous young masters of the Buck Sing branch of Choy Li Fut. When some of Dave's friends who were friends and fellow Wing Chun colleagues of Bruce found out that Dave was learning Choy Li Fut, they got offended and began to ridicule and taunt him. One of them was a guy by the name of Hawkins Cheung. They kept rubbishing Choy Li Fut and trying to convince him that their Wing Chun was superior etc. but Dave remained undaunted.

The fact that Dave had done a few months training in Wing Chun with them (and Bruce) they expected loyalty from him and strongly resented him learning Choy Li Fut - a style that Bruce himself had often spoken highly of and had a lot of respect for. The conflict between them escalated into a feud and eventually led to a challenge duel on the rooftop of a building in Kowloon City. Dave kept his appointment but the other party never showed up for the challenge match. News of these private or secret challenge matches traveled abroad and it was through Richard Leung that Bruce Lee in U.S. was kept informed of the current occurrences on the HK martial arts scene.

Similar to Bruce, Dave engaged in numerous HK street fights and won most of the times. In October of 1961, the controversy over the sensational 3 days newspaper coverage on a secretly held fight match between a 20 years old Choy Li Fut fighter and a 28 year old Wing Chun Master (in a car park behind the North Kowloon Supreme Court) generated great excitement in the local Chinese Martial Arts community. For the first time a non-full blood Chinese had gained recognition and respect in the HK Chinese Martial Arts circles.

In the following week, Dave's name was to appear again in the local Chinese journal and he became known as the "Black Panther" of Choy Li Fut in an article announcing a "Five vs. Five" challenge match between Choy Li Fut and it's rival school's top selected fighters. This match was to be held at a secret location in the New Territories. When rumors circulated that Choy Li Fut's rival had contacted Bruce Lee in the U.S. to try to persuade him to come back to take part in the grudge match, Dave knew from Lai Hung's remarks who would be fighting Bruce Lee if he returned. With the publicity surrounding this illegal match and the legal risks taken by those involved, the chosen referee pulled out and no one wanted to be implicated in such a sensational grudge match. Facing a dilemma, the match was postponed.

Bruce & Macey’s Reunion & Farewell
=============================
It was not till 1963, four years later that Dave and Bruce met again on the streets of HK. In those 4 years saw many new changes and challenges that shaped their lives and destiny. When both of them met again that day, it was a moment of anxiety for the two old friends but they were excited and happy to see each other again. Bruce told Dave of his life in America - his fights and encounters with other martial artists and of the recognition and respect he gained from his Kung Fu skills. He also spoke of Richard Leung who had joined him in Seattle where they got together to train in martial arts - something that Bruce had wanted to do for quite some time as he always had a strong desire to learn Choy Li Fut in-depth from Richard Leung besides from Master Chan.

Neither Dave nor Bruce realised when they parted company in 1963 that it was to be the last time they would see each other. In July of 1973, almost 10 years to that day, Dave heard of the sad news of his friend's sudden and tragic death. Bruce died in HK at the young age of 32. In life he had lived to see the pinnacle of his success and fame and saw his dreams all come true, and in death he left a name that was to be immortalised in martial arts around the world.

Though Dave never saw Bruce again, he was fortunate enough to meet two of his former students (of the 1960's era, probably Jesse Glover and James Demile) many years later at a martial arts competition in America when they came up to him and introduced themselves. They told him that they knew of him well because Bruce had on occasions mentioned his name and had spoken commendably of him to his students. Knowing Bruce had shared his sentiments about his old friend with his students left little doubt on Dave's mind that Bruce had always valued their friendship and had not forgotten him the years they lived worlds apart.

Bruce, Macey & Richard Leung photos: http://postimg.org/image/aj7yt0wyb/
Hi there!
Does anyone out there have a good quality
photo image of the Bruce Lee photo which
was on his grave in the 1970's.
I've looked but can't find one.
He's got the shirt & tie on.
I've got photos with different angles
but not this one.
Many thanks everyone.

Tony
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August 17th, 2015, 12:35 am #4

Choy Li Fut Kung Fu
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“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." – Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).

Besides Wing Chun, Bruce Lee studied and learnt various styles of martial arts from various masters in HK, such as Taiji, Hong Gar, Preying Mantis, Kung-Li, Jeet Kune, Boxing, Choy Li Fut etc. Bruce learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan in HK and from Richard Leung (a friend as well as a Choy Li Fut Master from HK) in Seattle. Choy Li Fut was founded in 1836 by Chan Heung. It was named to honor the Buddhist monk Choy Fook who taught him Choy Gar, and Li Yau-Sa who taught him Li Gar, plus his uncle Chan Yuen-Wu, who taught him Fut Gar, and developed to honor the Buddha and the Shaolin roots of the system.

This 3-in-1 system combines the martial arts techniques from various Northern and Southern Chinese kung-fu systems; the powerful arm and hand techniques from the Shaolin animal forms from the South, combined with the extended, circular movements, twisting body, and agile footwork that characterizes Northern China's martial arts. It is considered an external style, combining soft and hard techniques, as well as incorporating a wide range of weapons as part of its curriculum. Choy Li Fut is an effective self-defense system, particularly noted for defense against multiple attackers. It contains a wide variety of techniques, including long and short range punches, kicks, sweeps and take downs, pressure point attacks, joint locks, and grappling. Although it has a only a history of 100 years, it has been widely spread to southern provinces of China, HK, Macau, Southeast Asia and the rest of the world.

Like Wing Chun and Hong Gar, Choy Li Fut is well-known for its practicality and aggressiveness in real fighting. For instance, the “Knuckle Fist” is originated from Choy Li Fut. As a quick learner, Bruce picked up the essential parts of Choy Li Fut within a short period of time. He incorporated it into his Jun Fan Kung Fu. They could be seen in the demonstrations between Bruce and Taky Kiumura in his first martial arts book, “Chinese Gung Fu – The Philosophical Art of Self-Defence” published in 1963. Also, he used the “Knuckle Fist” in many of his early Kung Fu demos. There is a photo of Bruce performing “Knuckle Fist” with Jesse Glover in the International Trade Fair in 1961.

Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak
============================
According to the Chinese “Kung Fu” magazine interview in HK, Bruce personally admitted that he learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan, who was a second-world war hero, retired and living in HK in the 1950s. One day, while visiting a friend in Wong Tai Sin, he passed by a park and saw an elderly man practicing Kung Fu with 2 young men. Bruce observed for a while and started to criticise their Kung Fu style for being too fanciful, movements being too big and were impractical in real fighting. The elderly man overheard and asked Bruce to spar with him. Bruce agreed confidently. However, he soon found the opponent was too strong for him. To Bruce's surprise he was unable to penetrate into his opponent’s defense no matter how hard he tried. His opponent looked totally composed and relaxed as the situation was in his control. Bruce was almost knocked out by the elderly man. Finally, Bruce admitted defeat and earnestly pleaded the elderly man to take him in as his student. The elderly man was Master Chan Nien-Pak who accepted Bruce as his student and taught him Choy Li Fut for about 3 years. Bruce had also sparred with the 2 young men who were Master Chan’s sons but did not gain any advantage. Bruce was then convinced that this was a practical style that he needed to study for his street fighting.

Bruce Lee & Dave Macey
====================
Master Dave Lacey is a famous Choy Li Fut Kung Fu Master who first taught Choy Li Fut Kung Fu in Perth (1966) and Melbourne (1989) and eventually relocated to California in 1995. His school was named The 'Buck Sing Gwoon.' According to Master Dacey, he was born in HK and began his martial arts training in 1958 with Bruce Lee and several other schoolmates of St. Francis Xavier's College on the rooftop of a nearby apartment block. They practiced Wing Chun. Dave first heard Bruce talked about Choy Li Fut and of a guy whom Bruce had a lot of respect for as a fighter. He was Richard Leung Yum-Gung whom Bruce had befriended. Bruce told Dave that Richard's hard forearms were so powerful that both he and his fellow Si-Hing (Senior student in Kung Fu) could not stop Richard's heavy swinging punches. It was obvious to Dave that whenever Bruce talked about Richard or Choy Li Fut, he was in awe of the style.

At the beginning of 1959, Bruce left Hong Kong for the United States but on the night before he boarded the liner for a new life in America, the 18 years old Bruce visited Dave at his home in Kimberly Rd., Kowloon, to bid farewell to his friend. Bruce talked of finding fame in America and Dave remembers clearly Bruce's words that night when he said, "When I get to America I will become famous with my Gung Fu." Although only 18, Bruce Lee was full of ambition and determination to succeed in his quest for recognition and fame in America.

Bruce Lee & Richard Leung
======================
Master Richard Leung was born in HK and he befriended with Bruce after their sparring in the 1950s. He is a third generation Buk Sing stylist, who developed his skills under the tutelage of Lai Chou. His experiences include bare-knuckle bouts and coaching in HK. By the end of 1959 Richard Leung also left Hong Kong to further his studies in America in Washington D.C. but after much persuasion from Bruce, he later moved to Seattle where the two got together to train martial arts and exchange Kung Fu knowledge. After his graduation, Master Leung stayed in U.S. and helped to pioneer the art of Kung Fu in San Francisco, in the early 1960s, and continues to be a true practitioner of the Art. He was also a friend of David Lacey. Currently, Master Leung is teaching Buk Sing Choy Li Fat in Toronto, Canada.

HK's Street Fights & Feuds
=====================
Growing up as a teenager in the 1950's in HK in an environment of antisocial tension Dave, like Bruce, found himself a favorite target for street confrontations and fights with hostile street gang members or other individuals seeking a reputation for themselves as tough guys. As he did not belong to any street gang, Dave realised that his only option was to learn the dynamic fighting art of Choy Li Fut, a style originally developed for warfare and therefore had to be both practical and effective. It was not surprising that in the early 1960's Bruce Lee had high praise of Choy Li Fut and saw it as an effective fighting system for fighting multiple attackers and was one of the most difficult styles to attack and to defend against. These and other comments Bruce made back in 1958 in HK incited Dave to learn Choy Li Fut in early 1959.

He learnt Choy Li Fut under two famous young masters of the Buck Sing branch of Choy Li Fut. When some of Dave's friends who were friends and fellow Wing Chun colleagues of Bruce found out that Dave was learning Choy Li Fut, they got offended and began to ridicule and taunt him. One of them was a guy by the name of Hawkins Cheung. They kept rubbishing Choy Li Fut and trying to convince him that their Wing Chun was superior etc. but Dave remained undaunted.

The fact that Dave had done a few months training in Wing Chun with them (and Bruce) they expected loyalty from him and strongly resented him learning Choy Li Fut - a style that Bruce himself had often spoken highly of and had a lot of respect for. The conflict between them escalated into a feud and eventually led to a challenge duel on the rooftop of a building in Kowloon City. Dave kept his appointment but the other party never showed up for the challenge match. News of these private or secret challenge matches traveled abroad and it was through Richard Leung that Bruce Lee in U.S. was kept informed of the current occurrences on the HK martial arts scene.

Similar to Bruce, Dave engaged in numerous HK street fights and won most of the times. In October of 1961, the controversy over the sensational 3 days newspaper coverage on a secretly held fight match between a 20 years old Choy Li Fut fighter and a 28 year old Wing Chun Master (in a car park behind the North Kowloon Supreme Court) generated great excitement in the local Chinese Martial Arts community. For the first time a non-full blood Chinese had gained recognition and respect in the HK Chinese Martial Arts circles.

In the following week, Dave's name was to appear again in the local Chinese journal and he became known as the "Black Panther" of Choy Li Fut in an article announcing a "Five vs. Five" challenge match between Choy Li Fut and it's rival school's top selected fighters. This match was to be held at a secret location in the New Territories. When rumors circulated that Choy Li Fut's rival had contacted Bruce Lee in the U.S. to try to persuade him to come back to take part in the grudge match, Dave knew from Lai Hung's remarks who would be fighting Bruce Lee if he returned. With the publicity surrounding this illegal match and the legal risks taken by those involved, the chosen referee pulled out and no one wanted to be implicated in such a sensational grudge match. Facing a dilemma, the match was postponed.

Bruce & Macey’s Reunion & Farewell
=============================
It was not till 1963, four years later that Dave and Bruce met again on the streets of HK. In those 4 years saw many new changes and challenges that shaped their lives and destiny. When both of them met again that day, it was a moment of anxiety for the two old friends but they were excited and happy to see each other again. Bruce told Dave of his life in America - his fights and encounters with other martial artists and of the recognition and respect he gained from his Kung Fu skills. He also spoke of Richard Leung who had joined him in Seattle where they got together to train in martial arts - something that Bruce had wanted to do for quite some time as he always had a strong desire to learn Choy Li Fut in-depth from Richard Leung besides from Master Chan.

Neither Dave nor Bruce realised when they parted company in 1963 that it was to be the last time they would see each other. In July of 1973, almost 10 years to that day, Dave heard of the sad news of his friend's sudden and tragic death. Bruce died in HK at the young age of 32. In life he had lived to see the pinnacle of his success and fame and saw his dreams all come true, and in death he left a name that was to be immortalised in martial arts around the world.

Though Dave never saw Bruce again, he was fortunate enough to meet two of his former students (of the 1960's era, probably Jesse Glover and James Demile) many years later at a martial arts competition in America when they came up to him and introduced themselves. They told him that they knew of him well because Bruce had on occasions mentioned his name and had spoken commendably of him to his students. Knowing Bruce had shared his sentiments about his old friend with his students left little doubt on Dave's mind that Bruce had always valued their friendship and had not forgotten him the years they lived worlds apart.

Bruce, Macey & Richard Leung photos: http://postimg.org/image/aj7yt0wyb/
LJF
Thank you for sharing your delicious BL dim sum with us … you have our gratitude.
Relatively little of Bruce’s HK history has been published or is available in written English so your recent submissions to the forum are very welcome and insightful. You skillfully bring together pieces of pertinent information from numerous sources, keeping them separate but on the same plate.
Sometimes though, especially when there are many pieces from many sources, there is a possibility that not all of the pieces fit together.

The information on the Lacey brothers ‘ (pantherfist.com) association with Bruce is corroborated by correspondence between Bruce and Hawkins Cheung.

Chapter 8 pages 66-69 of Jesse Glover’s book on BL infers that Bruce became acquainted with Richard Leung whilst in the USA (San Francisco Bay area).

HK 1950’s … There was rivalry and arranged matches between the Wing chun and Choy Li fut clans. Bruce fought a guy from the CLF clan and the WC clan would have expected loyalty, so I was intrigued to read about “Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak”
I don’t recollect the name appearing in JKD Club magazine (BL: His unknowns in martial arts learning).

Duncan Leung mentions he and Bruce being beaten by a (CLF?) master. (Chapter 18 Wing Chun Warrior: The True Tales of Wing Chun Kung Fu Master Duncan Leung, Bruce Lee's Fighting Companion)

I got the impression that Bruce would have got information about CLF from CLF student Robert Chan (Phoebe’s boyfriend).

Can LJF give us any insight into how many CLF schools there were in 1950’s Hong Kong?

Which student from which CLF school had a rooftop fight with Bruce?

Which (CLF?) instructor/school did Bruce and Duncan Leung visit?

Which (CLF) school did Robert Chan attend?

Which HK (CLF) school did Richard Leung attend?


Which HK (CLF) schools did the Lacey twins attend?

Where was Master Chan Nien-Pak’s HK CLF school, and when did Bruce attend?
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August 17th, 2015, 3:35 am #5

Thanks LJF. I always felt that there wasn't much information about Lee's real life experiences in martial arts during his early Hong Kong years. The only person I remember that enlisted Bruce's gung fu knowledge was Dan Inonsato who said in an interview for Jeet Kune Do documentary that Bruce studied wu style of tai chi, western boxing, fencing, wing chun, bok pai (or tam toi) and choy li fut. I belive Lee had also some training in preying mentis and some northern styles of gung fu.
I heard there is this book "Bruce Lee The Evolution of a Martial Artist" - is it any good regarding Bruce's technicalities in martia arts?
Tkanks again.
Thanks Milosz.

According to Dan Inosanto, Bruce had learnt 26 styles of martial arts and incorporated the essential techniques into his own art. But based on some research, Bruce had studied more than that(From HK to U.S. and self-learning). His library also contained a wide variety of martial arts books of different styles from all over the world.

"The Evolution of a Martial Artist" was written by Tommy Gong, a student of Ted Wong. It was published last year. Having learnt martial arts for 30 years, Tommy did put in alot of effort in compiling and writing this book.

It highlighted the techniques and training methods Bruce had learnt, discarded, incorporated, developed along the way. It also tells which of the main techniques developed during which period and how they were differed from previous versions(There's a chapter on "Comparison of Core Techniques"). Overall, it gives an overview of the development and history of JKD.

As to whether the book is good or not really depends on individual (i.e. what the individual reader expects). But, this book does fills a void which previous JKD books had not done so.
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August 17th, 2015, 3:27 pm #6

Choy Li Fut Kung Fu
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“Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. It is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style of Kung Fu that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." – Bruce Lee ("BRUCE LEE" published in 1976 by Jesse Glover).

Besides Wing Chun, Bruce Lee studied and learnt various styles of martial arts from various masters in HK, such as Taiji, Hong Gar, Preying Mantis, Kung-Li, Jeet Kune, Boxing, Choy Li Fut etc. Bruce learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan in HK and from Richard Leung (a friend as well as a Choy Li Fut Master from HK) in Seattle. Choy Li Fut was founded in 1836 by Chan Heung. It was named to honor the Buddhist monk Choy Fook who taught him Choy Gar, and Li Yau-Sa who taught him Li Gar, plus his uncle Chan Yuen-Wu, who taught him Fut Gar, and developed to honor the Buddha and the Shaolin roots of the system.

This 3-in-1 system combines the martial arts techniques from various Northern and Southern Chinese kung-fu systems; the powerful arm and hand techniques from the Shaolin animal forms from the South, combined with the extended, circular movements, twisting body, and agile footwork that characterizes Northern China's martial arts. It is considered an external style, combining soft and hard techniques, as well as incorporating a wide range of weapons as part of its curriculum. Choy Li Fut is an effective self-defense system, particularly noted for defense against multiple attackers. It contains a wide variety of techniques, including long and short range punches, kicks, sweeps and take downs, pressure point attacks, joint locks, and grappling. Although it has a only a history of 100 years, it has been widely spread to southern provinces of China, HK, Macau, Southeast Asia and the rest of the world.

Like Wing Chun and Hong Gar, Choy Li Fut is well-known for its practicality and aggressiveness in real fighting. For instance, the “Knuckle Fist” is originated from Choy Li Fut. As a quick learner, Bruce picked up the essential parts of Choy Li Fut within a short period of time. He incorporated it into his Jun Fan Kung Fu. They could be seen in the demonstrations between Bruce and Taky Kiumura in his first martial arts book, “Chinese Gung Fu – The Philosophical Art of Self-Defence” published in 1963. Also, he used the “Knuckle Fist” in many of his early Kung Fu demos. There is a photo of Bruce performing “Knuckle Fist” with Jesse Glover in the International Trade Fair in 1961.

Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak
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According to the Chinese “Kung Fu” magazine interview in HK, Bruce personally admitted that he learnt Choy Li Fut from Master Chan, who was a second-world war hero, retired and living in HK in the 1950s. One day, while visiting a friend in Wong Tai Sin, he passed by a park and saw an elderly man practicing Kung Fu with 2 young men. Bruce observed for a while and started to criticise their Kung Fu style for being too fanciful, movements being too big and were impractical in real fighting. The elderly man overheard and asked Bruce to spar with him. Bruce agreed confidently. However, he soon found the opponent was too strong for him. To Bruce's surprise he was unable to penetrate into his opponent’s defense no matter how hard he tried. His opponent looked totally composed and relaxed as the situation was in his control. Bruce was almost knocked out by the elderly man. Finally, Bruce admitted defeat and earnestly pleaded the elderly man to take him in as his student. The elderly man was Master Chan Nien-Pak who accepted Bruce as his student and taught him Choy Li Fut for about 3 years. Bruce had also sparred with the 2 young men who were Master Chan’s sons but did not gain any advantage. Bruce was then convinced that this was a practical style that he needed to study for his street fighting.

Bruce Lee & Dave Macey
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Master Dave Lacey is a famous Choy Li Fut Kung Fu Master who first taught Choy Li Fut Kung Fu in Perth (1966) and Melbourne (1989) and eventually relocated to California in 1995. His school was named The 'Buck Sing Gwoon.' According to Master Dacey, he was born in HK and began his martial arts training in 1958 with Bruce Lee and several other schoolmates of St. Francis Xavier's College on the rooftop of a nearby apartment block. They practiced Wing Chun. Dave first heard Bruce talked about Choy Li Fut and of a guy whom Bruce had a lot of respect for as a fighter. He was Richard Leung Yum-Gung whom Bruce had befriended. Bruce told Dave that Richard's hard forearms were so powerful that both he and his fellow Si-Hing (Senior student in Kung Fu) could not stop Richard's heavy swinging punches. It was obvious to Dave that whenever Bruce talked about Richard or Choy Li Fut, he was in awe of the style.

At the beginning of 1959, Bruce left Hong Kong for the United States but on the night before he boarded the liner for a new life in America, the 18 years old Bruce visited Dave at his home in Kimberly Rd., Kowloon, to bid farewell to his friend. Bruce talked of finding fame in America and Dave remembers clearly Bruce's words that night when he said, "When I get to America I will become famous with my Gung Fu." Although only 18, Bruce Lee was full of ambition and determination to succeed in his quest for recognition and fame in America.

Bruce Lee & Richard Leung
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Master Richard Leung was born in HK and he befriended with Bruce after their sparring in the 1950s. He is a third generation Buk Sing stylist, who developed his skills under the tutelage of Lai Chou. His experiences include bare-knuckle bouts and coaching in HK. By the end of 1959 Richard Leung also left Hong Kong to further his studies in America in Washington D.C. but after much persuasion from Bruce, he later moved to Seattle where the two got together to train martial arts and exchange Kung Fu knowledge. After his graduation, Master Leung stayed in U.S. and helped to pioneer the art of Kung Fu in San Francisco, in the early 1960s, and continues to be a true practitioner of the Art. He was also a friend of David Lacey. Currently, Master Leung is teaching Buk Sing Choy Li Fat in Toronto, Canada.

HK's Street Fights & Feuds
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Growing up as a teenager in the 1950's in HK in an environment of antisocial tension Dave, like Bruce, found himself a favorite target for street confrontations and fights with hostile street gang members or other individuals seeking a reputation for themselves as tough guys. As he did not belong to any street gang, Dave realised that his only option was to learn the dynamic fighting art of Choy Li Fut, a style originally developed for warfare and therefore had to be both practical and effective. It was not surprising that in the early 1960's Bruce Lee had high praise of Choy Li Fut and saw it as an effective fighting system for fighting multiple attackers and was one of the most difficult styles to attack and to defend against. These and other comments Bruce made back in 1958 in HK incited Dave to learn Choy Li Fut in early 1959.

He learnt Choy Li Fut under two famous young masters of the Buck Sing branch of Choy Li Fut. When some of Dave's friends who were friends and fellow Wing Chun colleagues of Bruce found out that Dave was learning Choy Li Fut, they got offended and began to ridicule and taunt him. One of them was a guy by the name of Hawkins Cheung. They kept rubbishing Choy Li Fut and trying to convince him that their Wing Chun was superior etc. but Dave remained undaunted.

The fact that Dave had done a few months training in Wing Chun with them (and Bruce) they expected loyalty from him and strongly resented him learning Choy Li Fut - a style that Bruce himself had often spoken highly of and had a lot of respect for. The conflict between them escalated into a feud and eventually led to a challenge duel on the rooftop of a building in Kowloon City. Dave kept his appointment but the other party never showed up for the challenge match. News of these private or secret challenge matches traveled abroad and it was through Richard Leung that Bruce Lee in U.S. was kept informed of the current occurrences on the HK martial arts scene.

Similar to Bruce, Dave engaged in numerous HK street fights and won most of the times. In October of 1961, the controversy over the sensational 3 days newspaper coverage on a secretly held fight match between a 20 years old Choy Li Fut fighter and a 28 year old Wing Chun Master (in a car park behind the North Kowloon Supreme Court) generated great excitement in the local Chinese Martial Arts community. For the first time a non-full blood Chinese had gained recognition and respect in the HK Chinese Martial Arts circles.

In the following week, Dave's name was to appear again in the local Chinese journal and he became known as the "Black Panther" of Choy Li Fut in an article announcing a "Five vs. Five" challenge match between Choy Li Fut and it's rival school's top selected fighters. This match was to be held at a secret location in the New Territories. When rumors circulated that Choy Li Fut's rival had contacted Bruce Lee in the U.S. to try to persuade him to come back to take part in the grudge match, Dave knew from Lai Hung's remarks who would be fighting Bruce Lee if he returned. With the publicity surrounding this illegal match and the legal risks taken by those involved, the chosen referee pulled out and no one wanted to be implicated in such a sensational grudge match. Facing a dilemma, the match was postponed.

Bruce & Macey’s Reunion & Farewell
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It was not till 1963, four years later that Dave and Bruce met again on the streets of HK. In those 4 years saw many new changes and challenges that shaped their lives and destiny. When both of them met again that day, it was a moment of anxiety for the two old friends but they were excited and happy to see each other again. Bruce told Dave of his life in America - his fights and encounters with other martial artists and of the recognition and respect he gained from his Kung Fu skills. He also spoke of Richard Leung who had joined him in Seattle where they got together to train in martial arts - something that Bruce had wanted to do for quite some time as he always had a strong desire to learn Choy Li Fut in-depth from Richard Leung besides from Master Chan.

Neither Dave nor Bruce realised when they parted company in 1963 that it was to be the last time they would see each other. In July of 1973, almost 10 years to that day, Dave heard of the sad news of his friend's sudden and tragic death. Bruce died in HK at the young age of 32. In life he had lived to see the pinnacle of his success and fame and saw his dreams all come true, and in death he left a name that was to be immortalised in martial arts around the world.

Though Dave never saw Bruce again, he was fortunate enough to meet two of his former students (of the 1960's era, probably Jesse Glover and James Demile) many years later at a martial arts competition in America when they came up to him and introduced themselves. They told him that they knew of him well because Bruce had on occasions mentioned his name and had spoken commendably of him to his students. Knowing Bruce had shared his sentiments about his old friend with his students left little doubt on Dave's mind that Bruce had always valued their friendship and had not forgotten him the years they lived worlds apart.

Bruce, Macey & Richard Leung photos: http://postimg.org/image/aj7yt0wyb/
Thank you LJF for continued interesting informations.

I know Richard Leung from reading Jesse Glover´s remarkable book. I didn´t know that he is still alive and teaching in Canada.
I have never found an interview with him regarding his connection with Bruce Lee. Wouldn´t that be a great opportunity to ask him directly and publish it here?

Best wishes
Panttelis
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August 18th, 2015, 3:55 am #7

LJF
Thank you for sharing your delicious BL dim sum with us … you have our gratitude.
Relatively little of Bruce’s HK history has been published or is available in written English so your recent submissions to the forum are very welcome and insightful. You skillfully bring together pieces of pertinent information from numerous sources, keeping them separate but on the same plate.
Sometimes though, especially when there are many pieces from many sources, there is a possibility that not all of the pieces fit together.

The information on the Lacey brothers ‘ (pantherfist.com) association with Bruce is corroborated by correspondence between Bruce and Hawkins Cheung.

Chapter 8 pages 66-69 of Jesse Glover’s book on BL infers that Bruce became acquainted with Richard Leung whilst in the USA (San Francisco Bay area).

HK 1950’s … There was rivalry and arranged matches between the Wing chun and Choy Li fut clans. Bruce fought a guy from the CLF clan and the WC clan would have expected loyalty, so I was intrigued to read about “Bruce Lee & Master Chan Nien-Pak”
I don’t recollect the name appearing in JKD Club magazine (BL: His unknowns in martial arts learning).

Duncan Leung mentions he and Bruce being beaten by a (CLF?) master. (Chapter 18 Wing Chun Warrior: The True Tales of Wing Chun Kung Fu Master Duncan Leung, Bruce Lee's Fighting Companion)

I got the impression that Bruce would have got information about CLF from CLF student Robert Chan (Phoebe’s boyfriend).

Can LJF give us any insight into how many CLF schools there were in 1950’s Hong Kong?

Which student from which CLF school had a rooftop fight with Bruce?

Which (CLF?) instructor/school did Bruce and Duncan Leung visit?

Which (CLF) school did Robert Chan attend?

Which HK (CLF) school did Richard Leung attend?


Which HK (CLF) schools did the Lacey twins attend?

Where was Master Chan Nien-Pak’s HK CLF school, and when did Bruce attend?
Hi Chuan, thanks for your interest in this topic. I’m no expert in this field and could only provide you with what I know. So, pardon me for not being able to give you all the exact answers you wanted.

Q1. How many CLF schools there were in 1950’s Hong Kong?
Ans: Sorry, have no available figures of the 50s HK CLF schools.
There are 4 Main branches of CLF, namely 1) King Mui CLF (in Guangzhou), 2) Jiangmen or Kong Chow Hung Sing CLF (in Kong Chow City now called Jiangmen), 3) Fut San Hung Sing CLF (in Fut San city) and 4) Buk Sing Choy Li Fut (HK). Tam Sam was the original founder of HK Buck Sing CLF. His students included Tam Fei Pang (his son), Lun Ji, Chan Nien-Pak, Kong On, Kong Heng, Lai Chow, Mah Yan, Lau Kuru Tong, Lung Tse Cheung, Chang Choy and Nip Chi Fei. Buck Sing CLF schools mainly operated in Kowloon in the early days. In 1950s. It was one of the popular martial arts in HK besides Hung Gar, Dragon Style and White Crane etc.

Q2. Which student from which CLF school had a rooftop fight with Bruce?
Ans: In 1958, Bruce Lee fight Pu Chung from Buck Sing CLF school, in a HK rooftop. The fight was refereed by Wong Sheung Leung and Bruce K.O. Chung in the 2nd round which lasted about a couple of minutes.

Q3. Which (CLF?) instructor/school did Bruce and Duncan Leung visit?
Ans: According to Lacey, Bruce told him it was Richard Leung that gave Bruce and Duncan Leung, these 2 young Wing Chun guys a hard lesson. Richard Leung later became good friend of Bruce and taught him CLF when he went over to U.S. in 1959, the same year as Bruce.

Q4. Which (CLF) school did Robert Chan attend?
Ans: Sorry, no info on this part.

Q5. Which HK (CLF) school did Richard Leung attend?
Ans: Richard Leung attended and learnt his skills from HK CLF master, Lai Chou who was the Sifu of Lai Hung. Lai Chou himself, was the disciple of Grandmaster Tam Sam, founder of HK Buck Sing CLF.

Q6. Which HK (CLF) schools did the Lacey twins attend?
Ans: The Lacey brothers’ Sifu were Kong Heng and Lai Hung who were from the Buck Sing CLF school in HK. (Note: On 22 November 1957, Lai Hung represented HK Buk Sing CLF in the “Taiwan-HK-Macau Open Chinese Kung Fu Competition,” and won first place in his division. On the other hand, Wong Shun Leung, the King of Gung Sao, who represented HK Wing Chun school was KO in his first fight by a Taiwanese opponent. On 12 Feb 1958, the documentary film on this competition was played in a HK cinema. Unicorn Chan said Bruce Lee watched it seven times within four days. Bruce not only studied and analysed the causes for Wing Chun’s lost but also the reasons for CLF’s victory. He really took CLF even seriously after that.)

Q7. Where was Master Chan Nien-Pak’s HK CLF school, and when did Bruce attend?
Ans: Based on the info on HK Buck Sing CLF Association, there is a “Chan Nien-Pak Kung Fu Alumni Association” listed in its site. HK Buck Sing CLF Association’s address is at Yau Ma Tei, Nathan Road, No. 383-389 Peng Onn Building, Room 3/F 7.
Master Chan info was very limited. HK JKD club magazine in the 70s only stated his surname. It was HK BL fans and researchers that found his full name in recent years. This also matched the name of one of Tam Sam’s students. As Bruce was an official student of Wing Chun, thus, he could only learnt CLF from Master Chan privately. There was no exact date of Bruce CLF’s training, we could only estimate based on the existing info provided. Bruce learnt Wing Chun first around late 1954 and then Hung Gar (circa 1955-56). He left HK in Apr 1959. Since he said he learnt CLF about 3 years, so, based on these estimations, his training with Master Chan might be around 1956-1959.

For further clarifications, you may try contacting HK Buck Sing CLF Association. It should have a better knowledge in regards to HK CLF.
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August 18th, 2015, 9:06 am #8

Thank you LJF for continued interesting informations.

I know Richard Leung from reading Jesse Glover´s remarkable book. I didn´t know that he is still alive and teaching in Canada.
I have never found an interview with him regarding his connection with Bruce Lee. Wouldn´t that be a great opportunity to ask him directly and publish it here?

Best wishes
Panttelis
Thanks Panttelis. It's quite a good idea. But you need to check with the forum owner, Nick, to see whether your request could be arranged. Of course, must also get Master Leung's consent. His website is as follow:

http://choylayfutbuksing.com/
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August 18th, 2015, 6:11 pm #9

Excellent interview suggestions - anything you would like to arrange is fine with me. Thank you for asking but we are all fans here and your contributions improve the forum and are most welcome
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August 18th, 2015, 8:53 pm #10

Thanks Nick and LJF,

I would like to ask him two or three questions. Maybe it would be a good idea to collect questions from others, too and then trying to decide which one to ask, if not all.
But first, someone should try to find out if Mr. Leung is interested.

BTW, I would also like to hear Mr. Hayward Nishioka answering our questions.

We are in the very lucky position to come in contact with first hand witnesses who are still alive. In a few years, information will only come from third hand.
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