Bruce Lee's student Pat Strong and his DVDs available

Joined: December 19th, 2017, 9:38 pm

June 7th, 2018, 3:01 pm #1

Hi,
Just wanted to let you guys know that Pat Strong's DVDs are apparently available on Amazon for a very low price. He has four of them and Amazon is selling the group for $53.00 (including shipping).

I don't know how good they are but I ordered them and i'll post a synopsis here if I can when I get them in, which should be later this week.

As you know Pat is one of the students that worked with BL in Seattle and I believe was there during the James Lee era. So he might actually be in the know on some of BL's methods that are not usually talked about.
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Joined: May 24th, 2018, 11:52 am

June 8th, 2018, 10:57 am #2

Would be interested to know some of the contents of the DVDs and his insights...thanks
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Joined: December 19th, 2017, 9:38 pm

June 8th, 2018, 1:38 pm #3

[quote="MonkeyKing"]
Would be interested to know some of the contents of the DVDs and his insights...thanks
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I have glanced through two of them but they look to be interesting. Pat Strong seems to have insights in areas that other students have not addressed. He is the only one who talks about the difference between 'Non-intention speed' and 'Non-telegraphic movement'.

One thing I found startling is this comment which I will attempt to paraphrase:

"When BL touched you, you really felt it. It was as though just by touching you he could shock you and even make you freeze..." He then went on to give a lot of examples of how a normal person with some skill could freeze a person by 'shocking them' and said it is only for a half a second, whereas BL could shock people to freeze for longer than that by basically just touching them. He used examples of doing a hard, sudden pat Sao, a double palm strike to the shoulders followed by a centerline attack with a drop step. He said that the shock and freeze was essential to allow dumping your power not there internal nervous structure. This is on the tape 'Lord of Shock'.

There are four tapes:
Lord of Speed
Lord of Shock
Lord of Power
BL: The Internal Game

These are the listed contents:
1) Master of the Inner Game

- 1 inch punch

- Fistic Law

- Sil Lum Tao form

- Unmovable Elbow Principle

- Chain punching/trapping techniques on the ground

2) Lord of Speed

- Striking using the principle of non-intention

- Chain punching/straight blast

- Forehand strike from the Bai Jong stance

- Crashing the center line

3) Lord of Power

- Falling Step Principle

- Pole Principle

- Moving bigger opponents via proper body mechanics

4) Lord of Shock

- Disrupting the nervous system

- Penetration punching

- Constant forward pressure
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June 9th, 2018, 1:24 am #4

Very interesting...the tapes sound great
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Joined: December 19th, 2017, 9:38 pm

June 9th, 2018, 2:16 pm #5

he does give away a few of BL's insider methods unlike any of the others, including Paul Vunak. But he is doing demo-level applications against a small young guy and I consider his ability to be accurate but not extreme or even close to BL-level intensity.  He was doing it in the James Lee era and Seattle era so it's not just 'external JKD' as most people show.
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June 14th, 2018, 2:49 pm #6

So I’ve looked at the Pat Strong DVDs.

I think PS has some good information about the inner workings of BL’s method at the time.

He can ‘demo’ it but I do not believe he can do it as BL did, partly because he didn’t ‘get’ the information at the time he studied with BL and James Lee in Seattle and admits he got it years later.

Having said that he presents a lot more on those DVDs than any of the other BL students and later generation students.

The closest you have are people like Paul Vunak and James Demile, but they do not cover Pat’s material. They are still presenting the ‘mechanical side’ of JKD.

The thing to remember is that through BL was close, he did not understand several aspects off modern fighting.

He did not fully understand the ‘flowing and rolling’ aspect of BJJ, still being stuck in JJJ (Japanese Jujitsu) which was a ‘collection of tricks’.

He did not understand how transitions work - the movement from closing range and grappling range, the movement from standing grappling to ground work and the movement from ground work, with a resisting opponent to submission work. He did not quite understand the need to maintain contact with the opponent once you are In range.

He did not understand ‘mobile kicking’, still stuck in doing the step-then-kick procedure. This was available from Jhoon Rhee but he apparently did not explain it to BL when they were working together in 72-73 (I’m guessing at the time frame). I know JR’s fighters had fully realized the mobile kicking that you see with fighters like Raymond Daniels.

Could BL have looked at the modern figures and analyzed the methods they are now using? I believe he could but I do not thing he would have been able to compete due to one thing primarily.

That thing was I do not think he had the durability. As Joe Lewis said he had a long thin neck and he had not had his chin ‘tested’. We do not know if he could take a head shot and I believe this is why he did not choose to complete. We know good tough fighters in the beginning ‘contact’ era were exposed (see the first fight of Monster Man Everette Eddy - he had a glass jaw).

I believe BL was worried he had a glass jaw, and in addition he had bad eyesight so was worried about being hit wearing hard contacts.

I do believe BL would have been able to transition to being a great MMA coach, and that’s where he would have gone if he could have found time between movies.
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