Bruce Lee's beef with the Triads

Joined: July 24th, 2015, 3:19 am

January 25th, 2018, 1:20 am #71

Inquest:

Betty Ting Pei "I saw Bruce Lee last one month before July 20th" How extraordinary









Betty & Dr. Chu


Dr. Chu

Thanks Nick. Some of that newspaper article is hard to read.

Betty says the plan was to go with Bruce and Raymond to dinner where they would join Lazenby. It's possible George Lazenby was not informed of Betty joining them for dinner. So that makes sense. It does happen...a group of people meet for dinner, one of their friends tags along, and not everyone necessarily knows each other. Raymond and Bruce no doubt had previously arranged to meet George for dinner around 8:00 pm and I guess they decided to bring Betty.

According to the inquest article, Bruce and Raymond arrive up at Betty's place at 5:00 pm. They all discuss the GOD script. After a couple of hours, Bruce complains of a headache, then he goes to lie down. As 8:00 pm approaches, Raymond decides he better go meet George at the restaurant. Betty stays behind with Bruce (who apparently was dressed in nice clothes for going out to dinner).

Betty says she called Raymond around 8:30-8:40 pm to tell him Bruce was still sleeping. How does she do that? Not unless she called the restaurant and asks to speak to Raymond. Cell phones were almost nonexistent in 1973. George and Raymond are sitting in the restaurant having drinks while waiting for Bruce and Betty to show up. George says he asked Raymond if he knew where Bruce was, and if he had the phone number for where he was. Raymond says yes, and George says it was Raymond who called Betty.
Maybe they called each other? Or maybe either Betty or George have faulty memories. The part about who actually phoned who seems odd.

I notice there is one difference between the May 10th collapse and the July 20th death. No witness said anything about Bruce vomiting or having convulsions on July 20th. Betty assumed Bruce was sleeping, and Raymond Chow and Dr. Chu both talked about Bruce appearing to be 'resting peacefully'.
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Joined: October 17th, 2017, 5:36 am

January 25th, 2018, 7:30 am #72

Agreed. I did read somewhere that Bruce tried to break up with Betty at one point but she threatened to kill herself so he stuck by her. I find the fact he got his sweat glands removed to be quite odd. Apparently he got them removed in 1972. So he essentially lived with his glands for 31+ years just fine, so why get rid of them in 1972. Sweat is one of the ways the body tries to cool itself down. He didn't seem to be profusely sweating from the armpits in Big Boss, First of Fury or Way of the Dragon so maybe it was an odour thing. Or maybe he couldn't re-climatise back to the HK heat after spending 10 years in San Fran. I also think that the moment Bruce went off on his promotional tour he most likely wouldn't have come back to Concord Production with Raymond Chow. He was having issues with Raymond over Way of The Dragon accounting then why on earth would he finish Game of Death with him.
He lived years in Los Angeles, which can get hot and of course smoggy and muggy, so he would've been acclimated to Hong Kong's heat, even in the summer. Of course, you're not supposed to do strenuous exercise in hot weather, anyway.
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Joined: November 23rd, 2006, 7:41 pm

January 25th, 2018, 11:54 am #73

Inquest:

Betty Ting Pei "I saw Bruce Lee last one month before July 20th" How extraordinary









Betty & Dr. Chu


Dr. Chu

Thanks Nick, could you post the rest of the inquest transcript as well?
Dr Eugene Chu basically confirmed that Lee was already dead when he studied him at Beacon Hill Rd flat (pulses not perceptable and heart beat not audible). Question is what really happened between 5 p.m. and 10 p.m. that caused this.
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January 25th, 2018, 1:23 pm #74

Unfortunately that's all I've got on the transcripts.
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Joined: September 12th, 2011, 9:14 pm

January 25th, 2018, 2:09 pm #75

Thanks Nick, could you post the rest of the inquest transcript as well?
Dr Eugene Chu basically confirmed that Lee was already dead when he studied him at Beacon Hill Rd flat (pulses not perceptable and heart beat not audible). Question is what really happened between 5 p.m. and 10 p.m. that caused this.
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Dr Eugene Chu basically confirmed that Lee was already dead when he studied him at Beacon Hill Rd flat (pulses not perceptable and heart beat not audible). Question is what really happened between 5 p.m. and 10 p.m. that caused this."

All the more reason Chow and Betty's accounts of matters should be considered LIES. Now,some could argue you can't prove their stories aren't facts. Well, I'm of the belief you can't prove their stories ARE. There are far too many discrepancies in their recollections, and even after being coaxed by Chow Betty has wavered on her explanation of events.These two are co-conspirators.
And, I do NOT believe they were the only people in that unit, that day.
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Joined: January 10th, 2009, 6:44 pm

January 25th, 2018, 7:45 pm #76

On July 20, Bruce Lee was in Hong kong and met producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m. at home to discuss the coming film Game of Death. Then, they drove together to the home of Lee's colleague Betty Ting Pei who known as Lee's lover. Later Lee began to complain of a headache. Then Ting gave him an analgesic and help Lee lie down on her bed. When they found Lee did not show up for dinner, they felt something wrong with him. They went to Ting's bedroom but they could not wake him up anymore. At 11:30 p.m. the doctors announced Lee's death officially, it was ruled a "death by misadventure". Lee's untimely death shocked everyone who cared about him.

1. Mental Issues

One main reason caused Lee's death is that he seemed to have a serious mental issue. He could not control himself sometimes. About two months before Lee's death, his behavior started to be weird. Lee was a kind and patient person but he changed at that time. He become grumpy and always
got angry at small things. One famous scandal was that Lee put a knife on Wei Luo's neck and threatened he wanted to see what color his heart was. Although, Luo was not get along well with Lee, he was never threatened like that. Luo was terrified and called police immediately. Lee would never do this before. He also regretted threatening Luo like that. He did not mean doing that but he could not control his behaviors. Moreover, his wife Linda Emery also said that Lee always carried a weapon when he hung out along because he felt he would be attacked by someone. It showed that Lee had a serious dysthymia which could cause his death,

2. Overworked

Another reason of Lee's death is that he always requested himself to become better and desired to be successful. He could work desperately but he was not superman. His body could not support suck high-pressure tasks. In 1973, his condition had already been terrible. In that Summer, Lee was budding for his new film Enter the Dragon in the dubbing room. In order to avoid noise, they turned off air-conditions so that it was extremely hot in the budding room. After few minutes, Lee felt uncomfortable and left the room. However, he did not come back in a long time so his colleagues went out and found Lee lied on the ground in the bathroom. Fortunately, this time doctors save him but he refused to the brain scan because he wanted to maintain his strong image in public. If he could listen to doctors to do the brain scan, he might not die such early.

3. Using Electrical Muscle Stimulation

Lee also used electrical muscle stimulation to train his muscle which damaged his muscle at same time. This machine was brought from Japan and was banned later. It used high voltage to stimulate muscle which destroyed the balance between the nervous system and biological system. It can made Lee's muscle stronger in a short time but it did more damage inside Lee's body. Coincidentally, a actor named Yuan Jie also used this machine and also died without reasons one year after Lee's death.
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Joined: September 22nd, 2017, 10:25 pm

January 25th, 2018, 9:41 pm #77

Unfortunately that's all I've got on the transcripts.
It was really interesting to read the transcripts, thanks Nick.

Over the years I had always heard that Raymond had to call Betty ask where the two of them were (for dinner with Lazenby).

Now I read she called Raymond to say Bruce was sleeping and Raymond answers, let him sleep, twice that night.

I am sorry, again, this just does not make since or add up.

If they had a set time for dinner with Lazenby, then why would'nt Raymond press Betty to "wake" Bruce as they were waiting?

As the story goes, Bruce complained of a headache and she gave him a pain tablet and he went to lay down, sounds normal enough.

But 5 hours later, he is still sleeping, missed a important dinner with Lazenby? Anyone else would have said wake Bruce and get him headed to the restraunt.

It was also getting late into the night, what about Linda and the kids, not only did he miss dinner but now he has been asleep at Betty's place well into the night.

Nothing makes since here at all. What ever went down that night Raymond and Betty aligned their stories and have stuck with it all these many years...sad.
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Joined: October 1st, 2011, 9:12 pm

January 25th, 2018, 11:17 pm #78

All this new information leads me to thinking that EXIT THE DRAGON, ENTER THE TIGER is in fact a fly on the wall documentary and not a fictional thriller. ;-P
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Joined: September 6th, 2016, 5:26 am

January 26th, 2018, 5:51 pm #79

That was a good Brucexploitation film. Bruce Li investigated and avenged for his sifu Bruce Lee by killing off all the triads. ;-))
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Joined: January 24th, 2018, 5:04 am

February 19th, 2018, 11:08 pm #80

Bruce Lee's death was also supposedly raised many questions. Some say he had neck injuries, some say his funeral was suspicious because there was so much makeup and you couldn't see his face. Some say his corpse had no injury, and it was normal for a dead body to look swollen like that. I honestly believe there was foul play.

Brandon Lee wanted to investigate his father's death, which was massively hush-hush and covered up, or hugely suspicious, as soon as Brandon announced he was interested in opening a new investigation on his father's death, he shortly died after that. Of course, it's easy to make it look like a "freak death" as Triads are masters of faking deaths or covering up murders. Back in ancient times, many influential and kind leaders in China were killed by Triads through stuff like poisoning tea, poisoning rice, poisoning anything, or just straight up assassinated.

This raises many questions, but I'm just shedding light on it. What do you guys think?
I've always found it fascinating that Brandon didn't want to do a movie for Golden Harvest, but ended up with D&B Films for that Ronny Yu movie.

I took that as a sign that he didn't like Raymond Chow.

I wonder what detective work that Brandon did when he was in Hong Kong.

I know that he met up with Chan Wai-Man as can be read here, but there's not much to go on:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/285321/t ... +interview
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