Bruce Lee, A Life by Mathew Polly

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June 6th, 2018, 7:39 am #91

Many thanks JKD for your info.
Best Wishes!
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June 6th, 2018, 1:12 pm #92

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Actually having your sweat glands removed was all the rage in the 1970s. It was usually done for women. Remember, it was Betty who suggested it to Bruce. My mother had her sweat glands removed. She never liked the heat, and thought it would help her. It didn't. After she had her sweat glands removed, she had even less tolerance for heat.
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Really? Wow, I had no idea this was "a thing", in the 70's. Seems like if you didn't need them, our bodies wouldn't have them... Like wings.

I don't know what to make of Lee's situation surrounding his demise. Just weird.
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June 6th, 2018, 4:59 pm #93

I'm not sure where I had heard about the use of Spanish Fly, but is can be a dangerous substance and people have died from the use of it.

It's entirely plausible as a proximal cause of death.

From WIki:
"Cantharidin is dangerously toxic, inhibiting the enzyme phosphatase 2A. It causes irritation, blistering, bleeding and discomfort. These effects can escalate to erosion and bleeding of mucosa in each system, sometimes followed by severe gastro-intestinal bleeding and acute tubular necrosis and glomerular destruction, resulting in gastro-intestinal and renal dysfunction, by organ failure, and death."
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June 6th, 2018, 5:00 pm #94

^oops I mean to say I'm not sure where I first heard of the use of it with regards to BL, but yes, I had heard of it and had forgotten. Sorry, there's no place to edit a message on the site in my browser.
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June 6th, 2018, 7:30 pm #95

At the end of the day, THAT could've been what got him. All the other stuff simply to sell papers and create sensationalism. 
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June 6th, 2018, 7:41 pm #96

For what it's worth, Lee was definitely ferocious in filmaking and fighting, and sure was the same in the bedroom with other women. While the book doesn't delve too much into his love life as the Daily Mail would led us to believe (I was a tiny bit disappointed that Polly only mentioned the Dominican Rep. visit in passing), I still believe the stuff with Betty Ting was only the tip of the iceberg.
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June 6th, 2018, 8:48 pm #97

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I'm not sure where I first heard of the use of it with regards to BL, but yes, I had heard of it and had forgotten.
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Maybe it was Fighting Spirit by Bruce Thomas.
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June 6th, 2018, 9:24 pm #98

Any discussion on Lee's cortisone use and why he was losing weight?
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June 7th, 2018, 8:01 am #99

No. Only that Lee took cortisone for his back injury. Polly endorses the weight training story of how Bruce injured his back.

Even though Polly cites and quotes from Tom Bleecker's book, he doesn't seem to have a high opinion of some of Bleecker's claims.

Examples:
In his harsh biography, Unsettled Matters, Tom Bleecker claimed that Bruce Lee abused steroids for years (pp. 85–87). Since his book contains no footnotes or endnotes, I asked him during our interview if he would provide me with evidence for his assertion. He refused. Bleecker’s book fanned long-held suspicions of steroid abuse. During my research for this book, I made a point of asking almost everyone who knew Bruce about it. About half strenuously denied it (Linda said, “Oh God, no. Never.”), and about half started to whisper or asked me to turn off my tape recorder. The latter didn’t have any evidence, but they still believed it and didn’t want to be on the record tarnishing his image.

Polly, Matthew. Bruce Lee: A Life (p. 547). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.

59. In Bleecker’s scathing biography, he draws broad, unsubstantiated conclusions from Lee’s cryptorchidism—claiming that one undescended testicle caused Bruce to frequently suffer from impotence, an inability to develop a mature musculature without the aid of anabolic steroids, and “psychosocial immaturity” (pp. 19–20, 38). These claims are absurd. The only two physical risks associated with cryptorchidism are infertility and testicular cancer. It does not cause impotence or stunt muscular development, and there are no proven psychological side effects. Lee fathered two children, had an active sex life, and had the same wiry musculature in his teenage years as his two brothers.

Polly, Matthew. Bruce Lee: A Life (p. 524). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
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June 7th, 2018, 12:06 pm #100

Regardless of what it was caused by, psychosocial immaturity is still an apt description given what Weintraub said in his memoir...

"I had to face challenges that were not only daunting, but sometimes dangerous, absurd, even surreal (like having the star of the picture greet me each morning by tossing a live cobra in my face)."
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