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The best way to a 100FPS limit full auto

Si Coe
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Joined: May 6th, 2017, 6:03 pm

December 2nd, 2017, 11:38 am #1

So more and more of the 'family friendly' games are settling on a 100FPS limit and it got me thinking about the best way to get there. 
Popular wisdom for the Stryfe is that Rhino's on a 2S lipo with stock wheels and cage will hit the limit, which it might but with stock wheels and cage will I hit any targets? Will the motors cope on full auto with a Honeybadger pusher? 

Or would I be better running a 132 sized motor (I've already got Artifact and Worker motors) but dropping the voltage with an LiFe pack? 

Is there an option that would let me use say Worker wheels but not be stuck with stock motor? 

I don't have a chronograph so I can't test options myself - I just wanted peoples ideas. 
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OldNoob
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December 2nd, 2017, 11:50 am #2

Use the stock motors on a RS with a hotter pusher if you want higher ROF, I have several blasters running that at 2s, with matched stock wheels they are fine up to 100fps on 2s lipo.
132 motors will always push the torque out too far for the 100 limit and dropping the voltage just puts the rpm sub critical, making them bog like a stocker on higher ROF. If you want to get the FPS down then any of the 130's, like Rhinos or Meishel 2.0, in a stock cage at their designed voltage with Blasterparts wheels will shoot under 100. Both Meishels and Rhinos are around 110fps average, BP wheels lower crush will derp them back nicely,  you also keep a decent pusher control and ROF. Much better than dicking about with Lifepo, as you get increased precision free. In fact in a stock cage the BP wheels may totally derp 132 motors as well, I haven't tested that but initial figures on stock wheels suggest they would.
If you have an auto stryfe then I would go with the Blasterparts wheels and stock cage.
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Supercollide
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December 3rd, 2017, 8:35 pm #3

Glad you asked this as I've started toying with a 100fps limit select fire stryfe.
From an older thread when i was asking about imrs I'm gather that 2s lipo, stock cage, motors & flywheels will hit 90fps.
I've been thinking about replacing flywheels for better consistency but still need to keep under 100fps.
On that basis I'm thinking that worker wheels are too risky as it'll up the crush.
bulldogs have less crush than workers but more than stock, would they still be worth the risk or would blaster parts be more sensible?
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OldNoob
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December 3rd, 2017, 9:06 pm #4

I said Blasterparts because Workers are not as balanced and will put the blaster over 120 on any motor worth owning, Bulldogs are capable of well over 120fps on mod motors also. They don't have less crush, they have both greater surface area contact (thus better energy transfer) and more inertia due to their greater mass.
You want less crush and mass for consistent 100fps FA, this is especially important in autostyrfes where the ROF is higher.
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tbr
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January 3rd, 2018, 1:24 pm #5

I've just built a select fire stryfe (with modular cage) so I can run it at all events. I had thought that Rhino's with worker wheels in my red artifact cage running on 2s may work for around 100fps but an un-scientific test of getting shot by it last night makes it feel above that. I'm going to make a modular completely stock cage/motors/wheels to ensure it's under 100fps.
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Northwind
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Joined: December 28th, 2014, 10:44 pm

January 6th, 2018, 7:03 pm #6

tbr wrote: I've just built a select fire stryfe (with modular cage) so I can run it at all events. I had thought that Rhino's with worker wheels in my red artifact cage running on 2s may work for around 100fps but an un-scientific test of getting shot by it last night makes it feel above that.
It definitely will be- in my tests, my totally stock stryfe on 2 IMRs broke 100fps with good accufakes (and only managed 90 with a different batch/colour) As ON says if you want to do anything interesting and still be under 100fps you have to gimp it, by whatever means.
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January 6th, 2018, 11:46 pm #7

Yeap I often wondered what was the point in Blasterparts wheels when they first came out as they made performance worse if quieter. Now it all makes sense! It was to Nerf your overpowered Nerf!
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