Stampings On The End Of The Butt

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Stampings On The End Of The Butt

Bookie
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Bookie
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Joined: February 23rd, 2015, 8:19 pm

June 13th, 2018, 1:31 am #1

My little LSA Mk II Martini received a Mk IV butt stock in 1894 when the rifle was down graded to a Class II arm for the Nepali government.  In the end grain of the butt, there are various Enfield stampings which I suspect are some kind of viewers marks.  There are also a few hand made marks which were probably placed there by some unit Armourer Seargeant.  Not knowing exactly what these indicate for the most part, are there any books, articles, or treatises that cover these markings?  I do have a few of Skennerton's books, but what I have do not contain many  diagrams/descriptions.
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CQMS
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Joined: September 9th, 2017, 8:49 pm

June 13th, 2018, 1:37 am #2

A picture here might help. Quite a few people with exceptional knowledge of markings and stampings.

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Adrian
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Joined: March 26th, 2003, 11:12 am

June 13th, 2018, 8:36 am #3

Do you have Skennerton's "Broad Arrow" book? That is about the main one focused on markings & their meanings.
Great for SMLE onwards & pretty good for earlier small arms, reflecting where fewer records survive.
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Bookie
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June 13th, 2018, 5:07 pm #4

CQMS--I can attempt to stretch my photography skill, and probably to the breaking point, this afternoon.
Adrian--No, I don't have that one and honestly have never heard of it.  Will get on the internet this afternoon.
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PommyB
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June 13th, 2018, 8:09 pm #5

Typically you will find inspector's stamps on the wood under the buttplate.
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Bookie
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June 13th, 2018, 9:58 pm #6

Gentlemen,  
Here are two photos for your perusal.  The details are much easier to read in the photographs than just looking at the rifle.  Obtaining relevant books concerning the marks is my main goal.  Thanks for your assistance.
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CQMS
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June 14th, 2018, 2:10 am #7

The marks IV III+ are the armourer's assembly marks. As the parts were brought together, they were marked as such to keep them as a set. You might find the similar marks under the barrel of your rifle. Marks like that were often found on flintlocks as well. I have a flintlock that has ... on the major parts of the lock.

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englishmanca
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Joined: December 5th, 2005, 7:35 am

June 21st, 2018, 1:25 pm #8

Armourer's assembly makings and RSAF Enfield factory inspector marks.
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