Martini cadet actions

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Martini cadet actions

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October 1st, 2017, 10:27 pm #1

I have a very rough old Sportco martini in 222R.  I can find little information on them, and need some help.  My cadet is marked Greener, are the parts interchangeable with the BSA cadet?  My actions has full side plates.  I can only assume they were added to give it the same thickness as a thick wall action, or to cover pitting on the action walls.   I would appreciate any information you can contribute...
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martinibelgian
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October 5th, 2017, 7:20 pm #2

Depends... At a certain time, Greener did use the BSA actions, so yes, it is possible. Why are you asking, do you need parts?
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October 6th, 2017, 8:14 pm #3

I am thinking about going to a rimless extractor, I saw a really good design for one on a BSA and wondered if parts were interchangeable...I would want to have a spare extractor on hand.  Also what is the receiver thickness on a thin / thick wall action..
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October 9th, 2017, 1:25 pm #4

BSA actions do not have side plates.
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October 9th, 2017, 2:07 pm #5

I think, Fred what he means is thick sidewalls.  I hope. 

I aware of a giant Martini action that was built to take a 50  BMG round.  It was huge. The side walls were plates that were bolted on.  The fellow who made was an engineer with lots of free time.  He fired it a few times and disappeared into oblivion. That was back in 1992 or so.  

You can imagine how long the action had to be just to feed a round. 

I have often wonder what happen to him and that gun.
 
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"And don't forget.  That isn't your Martini you have.  It  belonged to others before you and will belong to others after you are gone.  Look after it, and pass it on with pride. It deserves it."  Malcolm Cobb,  The Martini Henry Note-book
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October 9th, 2017, 3:55 pm #6

The Double D wrote: I think, Fred what he means is thick sidewalls.  I hope. 

I aware of a giant Martini action that was built to take a 50  BMG round.  It was huge. The side walls were plates that were bolted on.  The fellow who made was an engineer with lots of free time.  He fired it a few times and disappeared into oblivion. That was back in 1992 or so.  

You can imagine how long the action had to be just to feed a round. 

I have often wonder what happen to him and that gun.
 
Yes, but some Westley Richards small Martinis actually had detachable side plates, which was why I commented. I don't know much about the Sportco actions or who made them.
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October 9th, 2017, 10:03 pm #7

Yes of course the  Sherwoods,

Most of the  Sportco's were converted  BSA 4a's.  Although I believe they may have used what ever they could get there hands on. 
Douglas

"And don't forget.  That isn't your Martini you have.  It  belonged to others before you and will belong to others after you are gone.  Look after it, and pass it on with pride. It deserves it."  Malcolm Cobb,  The Martini Henry Note-book
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October 10th, 2017, 2:40 pm #8

A sportco is by definition a re-used cadet rifle action, be it a BSA or a Greener - not aware of any WR's though, but never say never...
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