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Identifying a projectile

Northernboy52
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Joined: February 6th, 2018, 6:35 pm

July 11th, 2018, 12:22 pm #1

At an auction recently I purchased a box lot listed as "Snider bullets" that had a mix of 3 different projectiles. 
2 are large enough that I will load and shoot them, unfortunately the third type (the one on the left in the picture) is so small that they literally slide down the barrel. 
Preferably, I'd like to post them for sale with some reference as to what they are for. I don't cast bullets so melting them down really isn't viable for me.  

I measured a sampling for average  dimensions: 
  • multi-groove, hollow base
  • Dia. .569 / 14.465mm
  • L.O.A. .789” / 20.28mm
  • nominal 450gr. (451.2 – 463.1)
Any suggestions as to what they might be sized for?



3 bullets auction cropped.jpg
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Viclav
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Viclav
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Joined: March 13th, 2003, 10:38 pm

July 11th, 2018, 12:41 pm #2

They appear to be fairly standard market fare for muzzle-loading .58 caliber musket. These types are available from places like Buffalo Arms, S & S Firearms and Track of the Wolf.


Victor


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Northernboy52
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Joined: February 6th, 2018, 6:35 pm

July 11th, 2018, 1:08 pm #3

Victor,
Thanks for this.
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PommyB
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Joined: September 3rd, 2009, 9:41 pm

July 11th, 2018, 8:38 pm #4

The one on the left is often called a 'Trash Can' Minie, they are used mainly for target shooting as they cut nice sharp holes in the paper that are easy to score, it is likely from a LEE mold.
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yulzari
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yulzari
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Joined: July 13th, 2012, 11:48 pm

July 11th, 2018, 8:47 pm #5

The middle is from a 315 Lyman SWC mould.
My religion consists in a firelock, open touch hole, good flint, well rammed charge, and seventy rounds of powder and ball. - Private Jack Careless.
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Walt4thva
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Walt4thva
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Joined: September 6th, 2017, 2:12 am

July 11th, 2018, 9:21 pm #6

Lee trash can, Lyman wadcutter, Lyman old style.
Walt


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orange
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orange
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Joined: November 9th, 2004, 2:50 am

July 11th, 2018, 10:37 pm #7

3) Lyman 575213 NS, 575213 OS Old Style has a shorter bearig surface longer ogive and is a close copy of the US M1855 .58 bullet.
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July 11th, 2018, 11:33 pm #8

Orange is correct it is the Lyman 575213NS the old style is shorter and a close copy of the original minie.  I shoot the 315 grain Lyman wadcutter in my 61 Springfield with 40 grains of FFFg and get great groups.  I have shot the Lee Trashcan in my 2 band Snider and won several matches with 60 grains of FFG.
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