Advice sought on recent book acquisition.

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Advice sought on recent book acquisition.

Johnny Yuma
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27 Jan 2018, 14:18 #1

It all started a couple of months ago. I had posted a musket and among the comments was the suggestion from Adrian that I refer to page such and such in C.S. Roads, The British Soldiers Firearm. You see, I didn't have it. This was apparently a bigger gaff than my usual, almost daily gaffs. Adrian, who is a friend and perfect gentleman was moved to call me "Shirley" in his expression of astonishment. I was of course mortified. I determined to get myself the damn thing at the next opportunity so as to once again stand in the sunlight of my friends' approbation.

Time passed as it tends to. More recently I was engaged in a pitched battle for a series of three much sought after British flintlocks on line during a large US firearms auction. I was badly mauled by Deep Pockets Guys at every turn. I was inconsolable, weeping and angry all at the same time (OK exaggeration, I was deeply irritated.) At about this emotional point I noticed that the next item up was a group of firearms books. The only one I recognized was ' The British Soldiers Firearm' by you know who. I remember pressing the 'bid' button quite a number of times. I remember thinking "Those poopie Big Pockets Guys (I was thinking other words, bad ones, actually.) are not going to beat me again." And they did not. As the heat of the moment faded it occurred to me (one of those pit of the stomach feelings) That I had probably just spent more on 'The British Soldier's Firearm' than anyone, ever. I decided not to think about it and went to the pantry to get a big bag of Cheetos. I ate the whole thing.

Fast forward to this past Thursday. A UPS truck pulls up to my office, and a guy brings in a handcart with two big boxes (totaling 87 lbs.) "Uh Oh" I thought, having completely forgotten the heated auction episode.
Anyway, I opened the boxes, sorted the many books into two piles. Pile one: Books that I could conceivably read or use or be the least bit interested in, and Pile two: Books I had no clue about and were likely to sit somewhere in a dark corner forever (Probably next to the Nepali Francottes.). These included Titles like "Treasures From The Tula Arsenal" Wherever this 'Tula' is, Im pretty sure it isnt in Britian.

I brought Box One to Maine with me to puzzle over. With the exception of the troublesome 'The British Soldiers' Firearm' which started this whole thing, I know nothing about any of the others. It occurred to me just now to ask you, My friends and trusted companions for thoughts or opinions about these arcane titles. Most are in excellent condition. Some look unopened. All but one are hard cover many are big & heavy.

Here is the book that started it all. If you tell me it isnt really that good, I will not be happy. This C.H. Roads fellow is apparently a Doctor.
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"The Ideal situation, is that a man acquire a British flintlock musket or pistol every day. Any more and he will be perceived as greedy. Any less and his dedication will be suspect."
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hopmanhenk
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27 Jan 2018, 16:32 #2

Whahaha you know they say that you need to buy the book before you buy the gun. So this will give you the information to buy a few more.

Any doubles?
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lock n larry
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27 Jan 2018, 18:58 #3

I suggest you read all of those, Charlie, perhaps with a truck-load of Cheetos.  Then, Shirley, you'll be able to answer any question that comes up on the BMF . . . ever! 😉
"He who fights and runs away, May live to fight another day; But he who is battle slain, Can never rise to fight again"  --Oliver Goldsmith (1728-1774)
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27 Jan 2018, 22:00 #4

Hi Charlie,  definitely keep Roads, A Merwyn Carey, Bailie & Nie & the two List of Changes (LoC's).
The rest are perhaps quite good, not familiar with them all, depends on what you are into.
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The Double D
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27 Jan 2018, 22:05 #5

Build a bookcase, and move on.
Douglas

"And don't forget.  That isn't your Martini you have.  It  belonged to others before you and will belong to others after you are gone.  Look after it, and pass it on with pride. It deserves it."  Malcolm Cobb,  The Martini Henry Note-book
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Johnny Yuma
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27 Jan 2018, 23:27 #6

Good advice all of it.
I thought the gunsmiths books might be handy. Looks like I have some reading to do. 
See you in 2021.
"The Ideal situation, is that a man acquire a British flintlock musket or pistol every day. Any more and he will be perceived as greedy. Any less and his dedication will be suspect."
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28 Jan 2018, 13:32 #7

Dr. Christopher Roads is a PhD and is one of my generation. He is the greatest authority on the subject living today.  He is the President of The Historical Breechloading Smallarms Associaton and funnily enough our Adrian's uncle.
TULA is, of course, the most important and best known of Imperial Factory of Russia. It is today a superb Museum and is located about 40 of 50 miles south of Moscow. They may well start WW3 at being thought to have been in Belgium !

Charlie, you seem to still have a lot of blank pages that need to be filled.
W. S. Curtis, A.C.I.I.,
Vice President (Hon.), Crimean War Research Society,
HBSA (Hon. Life),
Assistant Curator, Museum of the National Rifle Association,
Whitworth Rifle Research Project, MLAGB
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Pukka Bundook
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28 Jan 2018, 15:42 #8

As Bill says, Charlie, don't let these get away on you!  Particularly the Chris. Roads book.

Any you don't want, use as my Christmas present next year.   (Or Bills. )
For an earlier read and a lot of details, Keep the G-B Gunmakers, 1540 -1740.  Do not give it away! 
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28 Jan 2018, 19:54 #9

A good start. 
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Johnny Yuma
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28 Jan 2018, 22:47 #10

Many blank pages, Bill yes. And I am delighted to have you tell me whats what. Even with brief absences you are sorely missed. And of course I know Tula is in Spain and not Belgium (:
Best, Johnny
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29 Jan 2018, 05:01 #11

Johnny did you even check abebooks.com . If you want  book, the almost always have it.  10 copies cure listed for Roads.
Douglas

"And don't forget.  That isn't your Martini you have.  It  belonged to others before you and will belong to others after you are gone.  Look after it, and pass it on with pride. It deserves it."  Malcolm Cobb,  The Martini Henry Note-book
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To find things Martini go to: WWW.MartiniHenry.com
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29 Jan 2018, 13:26 #12

Its the ADD Douglas. I become wildly enthusiastic about something, then "Oh look a dog just walked by the window!" Weeks later I see the book by Roads in an auction "Oh look the book by Roads!" This time the immensely exciting moment was accompanied by a 'Bid Now' button. 87 lbs. later you see the result. But I did get the book (:
Johnny
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29 Jan 2018, 19:46 #13

"And of course I know Tula is in Spain and not Belgium (:"

Holy Toledo, Johnny!  Was there a Geography book in the lot? 🤓
"He who fights and runs away, May live to fight another day; But he who is battle slain, Can never rise to fight again"  --Oliver Goldsmith (1728-1774)
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29 Jan 2018, 20:45 #14

This reminds me of a WW2 US bomber  crew stationed in England.

They'd come back a bit mauled, and  a local asked where they had been on their bombing run.

"Dunno Mak"  was the reply,... "hey Bill what's that country called next to France"?,    reply, "Germany"  "Yea, that's it,  Germany!"
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30 Jan 2018, 01:58 #15

My kind of Guys, Richard.
"The Ideal situation, is that a man acquire a British flintlock musket or pistol every day. Any more and he will be perceived as greedy. Any less and his dedication will be suspect."
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30 Jan 2018, 05:44 #16

 Hell Johnny, I thought it was in Oklahoma. Nice acquisition on the books. I bet if you stacked them all up, you could stand on them to change the light bulbs in the Manor house(:
 " May I be frank.....I'll be honest if you'd rather"?     B. Hill
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