Is Bowie the only artist that came out of the closet, then went back in?

Is Bowie the only artist that came out of the closet, then went back in?

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May 24th, 2012, 5:48 pm #1

Hi, I think Bowie is the only famous artist that declared himself homosexual, and then denied it. Am I right?
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May 24th, 2012, 6:01 pm #2

Wrong. Bowie declared that he 'was gay', and even 'bisexual', but never described himself as homosexual.

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May 24th, 2012, 6:32 pm #3

Gay=homosexual
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May 24th, 2012, 6:36 pm #4

I forgot what our David said
I forgot what he said

This is the famous article.....

http://www.5years.com/oypt2.htm



Hey, its history!
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May 24th, 2012, 6:38 pm #5

Wrong. Bowie declared that he 'was gay', and even 'bisexual', but never described himself as homosexual.

Mist.

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, simply surrounded by assholes." - William Gibson.
Im pretty sure I read an interview with Bowie once where Bowie said he wasn't and never has been gay or bi.
Either way I don't believe he was either, he was an experimentalist which is entirely different to being actually gay or bisexual, but I guess we will never know for sure.

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May 24th, 2012, 6:39 pm #6

I think that is what he later said Trevor.
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May 24th, 2012, 6:46 pm #7

Im sure the interview I remember was from around the Heathen period Mick but I'm not 100 percent on that., it was definately from the very later years of his career.


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May 24th, 2012, 6:54 pm #8

This is a funny slant on it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZdNxKkMiRE
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May 24th, 2012, 6:57 pm #9

Im sure the interview I remember was from around the Heathen period Mick but I'm not 100 percent on that., it was definately from the very later years of his career.


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I think Bowie had a love for effeminate clothes and probably helped to open peoples minds a little during the early 70s during the mid 70s Bowie said some quite peculiar things about sexuality ,possibly because he suffered quite badly from depression and also he was pretty much under the powder too ?

Its amazing how some makeup wearing men would probably look odd without it I mean look at Keith Richards he's always got eyeliner on and looks positively right and not at all effeminate
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May 24th, 2012, 6:59 pm #10

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May 24th, 2012, 7:32 pm #11

Great clip Mick lol

Didn't Bowie once say he was the only heterosexual in the closet?

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May 24th, 2012, 10:56 pm #12

Hi, I think Bowie is the only famous artist that declared himself homosexual, and then denied it. Am I right?
It was in one of the Black Tie White Noise interviews that he mentioned being a "closet heterosexual". Even in some biographies it's conveyed that he was in it for the scene, to experiment as he is wont to do.

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May 25th, 2012, 12:17 am #13

Lou Reed?
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May 25th, 2012, 7:01 am #14

Debbie Harry?
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May 25th, 2012, 7:58 am #15

I think he said that he couldn't ever feel an emotional attraction to men, just a physical one. If he were to say he was still bisexual it would imply that he couldn't be completely satisfied with married life, unless Iman has a strap-on. Whatever you, don't try to create a mental picture of that.

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May 25th, 2012, 8:57 am #16

Hi, I think Bowie is the only famous artist that declared himself homosexual, and then denied it. Am I right?
Arena Magazine 1993

And funnily enough Brett Anderson of Suede has just given his "I am bisexual" statement in Melody Maker, almost exactly 20 years afteryou did.

That's extraordinary. I won't say I knew that because I didn't. But there's something in the writing; I felt that he understood very deeply the ambiguity of sexuality.

....He said, 'I see myself as a bisexual man who has never had a homosexual experience. That's the way I approach my songwriting. If you are asking am I insincere to pose as a sodomite when I've never had someones cock up my arse, then no, I'm not. The sexuality you express is not limited to the things you've experienced. I mean, if you're a virgin, does that make you asexual?" He's been accused of hijacking gay imagery. Blurring the borders to make things more interestingfor everybody.

....It amuses me that gays are often so protective about being gay. It has got to be black or white. There is often a limited response among gays to people who have ambiguities about their own sexuality. You have to come out and be one thing or the other.

....The Brett quote came in a debate about sex in music. Funnily enough, your name came up quite a bit. Boy George was there and he said that in the early Seventies you gave him something to hope for, you showed him that there were other people like him in the world. But George also said that he always thought you were more gay than you actually were. And then later, when it became clear how much youliked women, he was disappointed in you. You were not the gay Elvis after all.

....Yeah, with gays it is very much us and them. That's unfortunate. In the States, towards the end of the Seventies, I think the gay body was pretty hostile towards me because I didn't seem to be supporting the gay movement in. any kind of way. And I was sad about that. Because I had come to the realization that I was pretty much heterosexual. Now I even have a problem relating to my life and my sexuality in the early Seventies.

....But it annoys me when people say, oh, but you were gay, like it was something bad to have been. And I say - well, what's wrong with that? Although I no longer consider myself gay or even bisexual it should@t be assumed that therefore I have decided that heterosexual is correct and gay is wrong. That is the furthest thing from my mind. It is just that psychologically it was a decision that was made for me, in my head somewhere. There was never the thought, oh well, I'll be straight now. Because life isn't like that. And gays will tell you that. They didnt wake up one day and make a decision to be gay. They are gay. It just happens to be the reverse for me.

....I was exploratory and there was so much that fascinated me. I guess it came from my own ambivalence about what my sexuality was when I was young. And then I remember reading - sometime in the late Sixties - City Of Night by John Rechy. A gay novel. A stunning piece of writing. I found out later that it was a bible among gay America but I didnt know it at the time.

....There was something in the book akin to my feelings of loneliness. I thought this is a lifestyle I really have to explore because I recognize things in this book that are really how I feel. And that led me a merry dance in the early Seventies, when gay clubs really became my lifestyle and all my friends were gay.

....I really opted to drown in the euphoria of this new experience which was a real taboo with society. And I must admit I loved that aspect of it. But as the years went on it became a thing where, sexually, I was pretty much with women the majority of the time. But I still had a lot of the trappings of gay society about me. In terms of the way I would parade or costume myself or my attitudes in some of the interviews I did. I remember doing the Russell Harty show - and I was definitely doing my gay bit on that show.

I remember that, you were really camping it up.

Yeah, in a really decisive way, to make a point. It seemed to be the one taboo that everyone was too afraid to break. I thought - well, if there's one thing that's going to put me on the edge, this is it. Long hair didn't mean much any more. So I thought - right. Let's really go into the gay lifestyle and see what that's about and see how people relate to me. If they can.

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May 25th, 2012, 9:03 am #17

very illuminating Craig - thanks.
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May 25th, 2012, 3:46 pm #18

madonna?
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May 25th, 2012, 4:28 pm #19

Practicing something doesn't make you Gay or Bi, I'm reading the Tim Burgess autobography Tellin Stories at the moment ( Tim is the lead singer of The Charlatans) whereby he describes the act of blowing coke up someones arse ( apparently you get a bigger buzz taking it this way )he described himself as both a giver and taker back in the day when he took drugs but defo wouldn't term himself as Gay or have Gay / Bi tendancies, a fact he pointed out during an interview on the radio I heard.

I don't think Bowie was ever gay or bi, to be honest I just think he was confused and curious

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May 25th, 2012, 9:51 pm #20

Didn't he once say he was tri-sexual, that he'd try anything?

A lot of straight men have had sexual experiences with men, then went back to girls. People used to act like color rubbed off onto them, too.

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May 28th, 2012, 4:25 am #21

"Whatever you, don't try to create a mental picture of that."

Too late.
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May 28th, 2012, 9:38 am #22

Tom Robinson?
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May 28th, 2012, 9:42 am #23

"Whatever you, don't try to create a mental picture of that."

Too late.
As a strictly hetero male, I find some of Bowie's opinion on the matter confusing - specifically how he changed from gay to hetero and the state he refers to as "trisexuality". It baffles me but I guess as he says, sexuality is not black and white, there are nuances - but whatever those nuances are, I know that I am quite different to David Bowie. Having said that, one of the things I find most impressive about Bowie is his very ability to express ambiguity - and particularly sexuality, even if I have no desire to go and act upon it. He is by far the most liberating influence I have ever felt from an artist.
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May 28th, 2012, 4:25 pm #24

Mark E Smith?
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