Heathen....10 years on!

Heathen....10 years on!

Joined: 10 Sep 2006, 11:50

21 May 2012, 21:14 #1

Nothing remains......

Ominus warning you might suggest from a man who had a major part in shaping and directing culture over the previous 4 decades. David Bowie had returned and before the end of the first track you already knew this was going to be a cracking album that would finally put an end to the "Best album since Scary Monsters" quotes that the media had been rolling out over the past ten years or so.

It was May 22, 2002 that I received my advance copy of the new Bowie album. The morning was a sharp clear day with the sun keeping me warm as I walked the streets of my local area, discman in hand and Heathen playing for the first time.

The coming months provided some magical live shows to back up what many critics were calling one of the albums of the year. It seemed Bowie was back once more for a final push at showing the kids how to be cool.

Somehow ten long years have now passed since this album was released. Back then we enjoyed a solid 18 months of unforgettable live shows and even a follow up album just over a year later. Sadly it was to be Bowie's last great push in music circles. In the following months that soon gathered into years all we had to enjoy were a handful of film and stage appearences in a career that began to, shall we say, slip away......

Thank you David Bowie. Thank you for a wonderful 18 month period of life where I visited many beautiful cities to see your concerts, enjoyed countless bootlegs from the Heathen and A Reality tours, met many wonderful fans the world over and most of all, thank you for providing us with your last truly great album.

In the coming days may I suggest you find a quiet space, settle in and give Heathen a spin. A truly great record on every front from an artist who came from a differant time and proceeded to shape our destiny.

Ohh, for those of you yet to enjoy the beauty of Heathen may I suggest you pick yourself up a copy on the way home from work today, take it home with you and explore something you should have done in 2002.

Heathen. Ten years on and like a fine wine it gets better with age.

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Joined: 24 Aug 2006, 12:48

21 May 2012, 21:33 #2

It's such a great album. I too was lucky to see him a lot on the Heathen tour a personal highlight being the Hammersmith Oden. What a night. It was also the first time i met so many Bowie fans. I was a member of Bnet then which was a fantstic time for many of us as well. I did very well out of it and won some luvly ickets to see him at the R2 gig amonst other things. Then there was Meltdown seeing him play Low and Heathen back to back. And Reality tour I have great meories of. I totally agree with you BSI those 18 months where magical. At least he went out on such a musical high despite the health issues
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21 May 2012, 21:36 #3

Scary Monsters and Super Creeps, his last truly great album....1.Outside is pretty close but not quite close enough
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Joined: 19 Oct 2004, 16:32

21 May 2012, 22:01 #4

10 years already
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Joined: 01 Dec 2011, 12:49

21 May 2012, 22:03 #5

Nothing remains......

Ominus warning you might suggest from a man who had a major part in shaping and directing culture over the previous 4 decades. David Bowie had returned and before the end of the first track you already knew this was going to be a cracking album that would finally put an end to the "Best album since Scary Monsters" quotes that the media had been rolling out over the past ten years or so.

It was May 22, 2002 that I received my advance copy of the new Bowie album. The morning was a sharp clear day with the sun keeping me warm as I walked the streets of my local area, discman in hand and Heathen playing for the first time.

The coming months provided some magical live shows to back up what many critics were calling one of the albums of the year. It seemed Bowie was back once more for a final push at showing the kids how to be cool.

Somehow ten long years have now passed since this album was released. Back then we enjoyed a solid 18 months of unforgettable live shows and even a follow up album just over a year later. Sadly it was to be Bowie's last great push in music circles. In the following months that soon gathered into years all we had to enjoy were a handful of film and stage appearences in a career that began to, shall we say, slip away......

Thank you David Bowie. Thank you for a wonderful 18 month period of life where I visited many beautiful cities to see your concerts, enjoyed countless bootlegs from the Heathen and A Reality tours, met many wonderful fans the world over and most of all, thank you for providing us with your last truly great album.

In the coming days may I suggest you find a quiet space, settle in and give Heathen a spin. A truly great record on every front from an artist who came from a differant time and proceeded to shape our destiny.

Ohh, for those of you yet to enjoy the beauty of Heathen may I suggest you pick yourself up a copy on the way home from work today, take it home with you and explore something you should have done in 2002.

Heathen. Ten years on and like a fine wine it gets better with age.
Heathen - Released June 10th 2002!

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Joined: 01 Dec 2011, 12:49

21 May 2012, 22:07 #6

Scary Monsters and Super Creeps, his last truly great album....1.Outside is pretty close but not quite close enough
is a great album for me!

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Joined: 25 Mar 2007, 17:20

21 May 2012, 22:10 #7

Nothing remains......

Ominus warning you might suggest from a man who had a major part in shaping and directing culture over the previous 4 decades. David Bowie had returned and before the end of the first track you already knew this was going to be a cracking album that would finally put an end to the "Best album since Scary Monsters" quotes that the media had been rolling out over the past ten years or so.

It was May 22, 2002 that I received my advance copy of the new Bowie album. The morning was a sharp clear day with the sun keeping me warm as I walked the streets of my local area, discman in hand and Heathen playing for the first time.

The coming months provided some magical live shows to back up what many critics were calling one of the albums of the year. It seemed Bowie was back once more for a final push at showing the kids how to be cool.

Somehow ten long years have now passed since this album was released. Back then we enjoyed a solid 18 months of unforgettable live shows and even a follow up album just over a year later. Sadly it was to be Bowie's last great push in music circles. In the following months that soon gathered into years all we had to enjoy were a handful of film and stage appearences in a career that began to, shall we say, slip away......

Thank you David Bowie. Thank you for a wonderful 18 month period of life where I visited many beautiful cities to see your concerts, enjoyed countless bootlegs from the Heathen and A Reality tours, met many wonderful fans the world over and most of all, thank you for providing us with your last truly great album.

In the coming days may I suggest you find a quiet space, settle in and give Heathen a spin. A truly great record on every front from an artist who came from a differant time and proceeded to shape our destiny.

Ohh, for those of you yet to enjoy the beauty of Heathen may I suggest you pick yourself up a copy on the way home from work today, take it home with you and explore something you should have done in 2002.

Heathen. Ten years on and like a fine wine it gets better with age.
Been listening to our man since 1972. Gotta agree the timing of Heathen made it so special, masterpiece as far as i am concerned.
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Joined: 01 Dec 2011, 12:49

21 May 2012, 22:16 #8

I really like the SACD version.

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22 May 2012, 05:20 #9

It's a shame the SACD hasn't been released in any other formats. I'd love stereo mixes of those longer versions. The toy piano up front on Slow Burn really adds to the weird vibe that song has.
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Joined: 06 Mar 2010, 21:13

22 May 2012, 10:15 #10

I'd rank it as the 5th best DB album.

Hunky Dory
Ziggy
Diamond Dogs
Low
Heathen

2002 was a fantastic year to be a Bowie fan. A critically acclaimed album, so much media exposure, fantastic b-sides. Awesome live shows, Mercury music prize nomination, TV appearances, in-store signings...

Our man was back in business and for the first time in years, universally acknowledged as being cool and relevant again. Will always remember how he commanded the stage at Manchester (clouds parted for him after drenching us during Suede's set) and how the 3hour hammy gig was like a return to home where the legend began. New songs such as Afraid and Everyone Says Hi standing head and shoulders with old classics like Bewlay Brothers and Starman. The feather boa, the levitation, the reprisal of the farewell speech (but mentioning the train strike). He looked and sounded a million dollars.

If Bowie were a football team, 2002 was the year he won the treble.
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Joined: 29 May 2009, 12:53

22 May 2012, 11:56 #11

c'mon man...where is outside in your top 5? heathen is great but it ain't outside...


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Joined: 06 Mar 2010, 21:13

22 May 2012, 13:05 #12

1.outside is outside my top 10, maybe about #15.

Architect's, Motel & Voyeur are great.
Deranged, Spaceboy, HFL & Plot of Land are all good.
No control & WPY are okay.
SWWM I preferred on Buddha.
Outside, Wishful Beginnings, I am With Name & the segues I could live without.

The whole thing is bogged down with contrived pretentiousness & I preferred hearing the songs live. I do think 95-97 was a creative period, Bowie had energy and enthusiasm for his live shows and was reinterpreting his old material, but the actual album was disappointing. Earthling had the spontaneity that Outside lacked. I blame Eno &, to an extent, Damien Hirst who got Bowie's head up his own arse and taught him that context and long art titles can be more important than content.

The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living -----> The Voyeur of Utter Destruction as Beauty





If Outside was edited down to just 10 tracks, it would probably rank a lot higher in my list of preferred Bowie albums. But then, what does my opinion count(?) Each to their own.
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Joined: 25 May 2005, 00:22

22 May 2012, 13:39 #13

Nothing remains......

Ominus warning you might suggest from a man who had a major part in shaping and directing culture over the previous 4 decades. David Bowie had returned and before the end of the first track you already knew this was going to be a cracking album that would finally put an end to the "Best album since Scary Monsters" quotes that the media had been rolling out over the past ten years or so.

It was May 22, 2002 that I received my advance copy of the new Bowie album. The morning was a sharp clear day with the sun keeping me warm as I walked the streets of my local area, discman in hand and Heathen playing for the first time.

The coming months provided some magical live shows to back up what many critics were calling one of the albums of the year. It seemed Bowie was back once more for a final push at showing the kids how to be cool.

Somehow ten long years have now passed since this album was released. Back then we enjoyed a solid 18 months of unforgettable live shows and even a follow up album just over a year later. Sadly it was to be Bowie's last great push in music circles. In the following months that soon gathered into years all we had to enjoy were a handful of film and stage appearences in a career that began to, shall we say, slip away......

Thank you David Bowie. Thank you for a wonderful 18 month period of life where I visited many beautiful cities to see your concerts, enjoyed countless bootlegs from the Heathen and A Reality tours, met many wonderful fans the world over and most of all, thank you for providing us with your last truly great album.

In the coming days may I suggest you find a quiet space, settle in and give Heathen a spin. A truly great record on every front from an artist who came from a differant time and proceeded to shape our destiny.

Ohh, for those of you yet to enjoy the beauty of Heathen may I suggest you pick yourself up a copy on the way home from work today, take it home with you and explore something you should have done in 2002.

Heathen. Ten years on and like a fine wine it gets better with age.
Heathen was a welcome addition to my Bowie collection...but, it doesn't even make my top 5. I always thought there was too much hype about it. There are a few songs on it that are majestic and beautiful...but, i just don't believe it is the amazing, classic that so many regard it as.

'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
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22 May 2012, 14:55 #14

i agree Nick

and when Alan speaks of pretentiousness i always felt that with Heathen, Sunday en H the Rays, though good songs it always felt it little humwhaa, i liked heathen the rays live alot but out of the context of the album, so to me the last higlight is Toy, certainly not Heathen, though it's coverart is sublime

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Joined: 19 Oct 2004, 16:32

22 May 2012, 15:53 #15

Heathen is a great album, I'm still amazed how bad Reality turned out compared to Heathen which was record only one year before.
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22 May 2012, 18:13 #16

I know i'm gonna hear shit for this...but, i actually enjoyed Reality more than Heathen. I don't understand why Reality gets so much negative feedback on here.

'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
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22 May 2012, 18:31 #17

I'd like to rank Bowie's post Tin Machine work...

1. Outside
2. Earthling
3. Buddha Of Suburbia
4. Black Tie White Noise
5. Heathen
6. Reality
7. Hours

Ta! x
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Joined: 10 Sep 2006, 11:50

22 May 2012, 20:23 #18

I would like to have seen a re-issue this year with the original album and b-sides on disc one, Toy in full as a bonus disc with some extras and a DVD of the Berlin show that was slated for release but never came out.

Heathen is one Bowie album that could have heen a brilliant re-issue.
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22 May 2012, 21:48 #19

I hear it somewhat outside (sorry) its original context, since it's only a couple years old for me. It's got an autumnal quality; a sense of the ending of things (it is hard to take it completely out of its context of the worst fucking thing to hit America since the asassination of JFK). The end of the world has never sounded so good.

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24 May 2012, 08:17 #20

Nothing remains......

Ominus warning you might suggest from a man who had a major part in shaping and directing culture over the previous 4 decades. David Bowie had returned and before the end of the first track you already knew this was going to be a cracking album that would finally put an end to the "Best album since Scary Monsters" quotes that the media had been rolling out over the past ten years or so.

It was May 22, 2002 that I received my advance copy of the new Bowie album. The morning was a sharp clear day with the sun keeping me warm as I walked the streets of my local area, discman in hand and Heathen playing for the first time.

The coming months provided some magical live shows to back up what many critics were calling one of the albums of the year. It seemed Bowie was back once more for a final push at showing the kids how to be cool.

Somehow ten long years have now passed since this album was released. Back then we enjoyed a solid 18 months of unforgettable live shows and even a follow up album just over a year later. Sadly it was to be Bowie's last great push in music circles. In the following months that soon gathered into years all we had to enjoy were a handful of film and stage appearences in a career that began to, shall we say, slip away......

Thank you David Bowie. Thank you for a wonderful 18 month period of life where I visited many beautiful cities to see your concerts, enjoyed countless bootlegs from the Heathen and A Reality tours, met many wonderful fans the world over and most of all, thank you for providing us with your last truly great album.

In the coming days may I suggest you find a quiet space, settle in and give Heathen a spin. A truly great record on every front from an artist who came from a differant time and proceeded to shape our destiny.

Ohh, for those of you yet to enjoy the beauty of Heathen may I suggest you pick yourself up a copy on the way home from work today, take it home with you and explore something you should have done in 2002.

Heathen. Ten years on and like a fine wine it gets better with age.
I was listening to Heathan a few days ago aware that it was 10 years since release and I just can't believe it. Yes the sun was shining and it was a wonderful day when I put this into my pkayer for the first time.
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