Ernie Johnson

Ernie Johnson

Joined: April 9th, 2005, 12:53 am

May 27th, 2017, 5:46 pm #1

I have no idea if this is the genuine real deal, or if it's a wind up, but.........



Mist.
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Joined: September 14th, 2007, 8:06 pm

May 27th, 2017, 5:56 pm #2

I doubt this is it however there has been some silliness behind the scenes and we may be getting this sooner rather than later.
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Joined: December 23rd, 2013, 4:58 pm

May 27th, 2017, 7:58 pm #3

All those titles are listed on illustrateddb. A mock up of a cd is evidence of what?

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Joined: January 23rd, 2014, 10:41 pm

May 27th, 2017, 11:10 pm #4

As I understand it, this is the back cover for the bootleg that was planned to come out some years ago...until Bowie and/or his legal team got wind of it and stopped it. From Illustrated db Discography:

"Although Kenn Pitt mentioned it briefly in his book "The Pitt Report", it wasn't until 1996 that came to light that Bowie in 1968 had written his own rock opera. Offered for auction at Christie's in London (on June 6th) was a tape and a set of lyrics. The rather bizarre plot of the Ernie Johnson rock opera was described in Record Collector 202, p. 94-95: "Ernie's staging a suicide party, at which Tiny Tim is one of the guests (cue a song); Ernie remembers his passing loves from the previous year; he has a racist conversation with a tramp; sings a song to himself in the mirror; rushes of to Carnaby Street to buy a tie for the big occasion of his suicide—and there the song and stage directions come to an end." So far, Record Collector is the only source of information, as it failed to sell at the auction. Apparently the cassette was sold and offered on eBay in 2005, but it failed to sell as it was pulled after legal interference."
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Joined: July 16th, 2006, 2:02 pm

May 28th, 2017, 12:53 am #5

I have no idea if this is the genuine real deal, or if it's a wind up, but.........



Mist.
I WANT a copy of that...
CISAS has my secure email address.
Only lemme know if purchase price
goes over 1,000.°° usd
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Joined: September 10th, 2006, 11:50 am

May 28th, 2017, 8:27 am #6

Now, this would be a wonderful release!

I keep saying the way forward for Bowie's estate is to offer a Spotify type option where all the concerts and rare recording can go up for fans to enjoy. That would be amazing. No real outlay for the Bowie estate and for $5 a month US, all us hardcore fans get what we have always desired! 👍
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Joined: January 23rd, 2014, 10:41 pm

May 28th, 2017, 4:10 pm #7

^ someone's got the right idea!
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Joined: July 24th, 2008, 8:22 pm

May 28th, 2017, 10:27 pm #8

Yes, except once it's out, it's... out. For free, more or less.

I have a hunch, only mine obvs, that he never wanted anything out there that wasn't 'canon', part of the established history, a known unknown, if you will. I reckon he weakened over Toy, for obvious reasons given the timing, and then denied all knowledge etc etc. It doesn't really matter imho. All part of the mystery and madness of art.

Unless EJ is crap of course. That would be reason enough to keep it under lock and key...
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Joined: September 14th, 2007, 8:06 pm

May 29th, 2017, 6:42 am #9

Toy is a different scenario. That was made to be an album. This is demos on par with April's Tooth Of Gold with some little sprinkles. I think every artist is right to withhold demo material and unreleased tracks. Obviously there comes a point where they might listen back for some reason and think yeah that sounds OK actually. Perhaps like when Bowie vetoed or included some of the Ryko bonus tracks. Frustrating for sure, but you have to respect that. Made worse with Bowie because of all the stuff we KNOW exists and we own in varying quality.
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Joined: August 1st, 2016, 7:29 pm

May 29th, 2017, 9:22 am #10

It's a bit of a mystery why this wasn't released. Perhaps Bowie was worried that the racist content might cast him in a negative light and so undo a lifetime's work of promoting black, music as well as insulting his black wife, whilst simultaneously doing irreparable damage to his reputation and legacy, possibly ending his career in a moment just because of some ill-advised piece of juvenalia which, although the racist lines are simply stated in character, would be assumed to be Bowie's own view and so end his career and possibly see him edited out of archive shows of top of the pops, like so many others. Other than that however, I'm scratching my head.
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Joined: September 14th, 2007, 8:06 pm

May 29th, 2017, 2:29 pm #11

I don't think that's it. See Ching A Ling. The truth is there is no reason to release it officially.
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 8:17 pm

May 29th, 2017, 4:40 pm #12

Of course...a bootleg release will be better
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Joined: December 23rd, 2013, 4:58 pm

May 29th, 2017, 4:47 pm #13

I hope it's never released.

Sam would be the first to let us know Bowie made a racist comment.
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 8:17 pm

May 29th, 2017, 4:49 pm #14

A new bootleg label will release soon.
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 8:17 pm

August 15th, 2017, 2:53 am #15

I was wrong.shelved again
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Joined: October 1st, 2010, 10:23 pm

August 16th, 2017, 7:15 am #16

has Aprils tooth of gold appeared on any bootleg yet?
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Joined: September 14th, 2007, 8:06 pm

August 16th, 2017, 7:24 am #17

Yes, and the same session's When I'm Five. Took a while though. One of the best things leaked on Bowieaudio.
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 8:17 pm

August 16th, 2017, 1:29 pm #18

April was released in Cest la vie Box and Mother Grey is missing
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Joined: February 19th, 2010, 8:17 pm

June 13th, 2018, 3:20 am #19

More info about this cd please
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