25 years ago today: Never Let Me Down

25 years ago today: Never Let Me Down

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April 27th, 2012, 3:22 pm #1

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April 27th, 2012, 3:26 pm #2

I could go the rest of my life without hearing that song again! LOL

'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
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April 27th, 2012, 3:33 pm #3

Don't remind us!
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April 27th, 2012, 4:58 pm #4

like a Gondoliers' flip-flop . . .
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April 27th, 2012, 5:08 pm #5

I could go the rest of my life without hearing that song again! LOL

'You start out wrinkled and you cry...you end up wrinkled and you die.'
I save only two songs: Time Will Crawl and Glass Spider.


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April 27th, 2012, 5:22 pm #6

time will crawl is great,i remember"beat of your drum" being pretty good live but zeroes is probably one of the worst thing db has ever commited to disc. not the worst album though not by a long shot.
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April 27th, 2012, 6:01 pm #7

Played this in the car the other day, massively underrated.

Day in Day Out - Not a very strong opening song, almost as bad as Watch That Man, but the next 6 or so songs are great.

Time Will Crawl - eerie pop with a neat keyboard riff.

Beat of Your Drum - superb dramatic verses, slightly let down by an unremarkable chorus. Very similar to Because You're Young in that respect.

Never Let Me Down - just wonderful, love the harmonica

Zeroes - one of his best songs of the 80's


Glass Spider - the macabre atmosphere of the spoken intro eventually mutates into a superb rocker with a memorable refrain

Shining Star - love this song

Too Dizzy,New York's in Love & 87 & Cry are all okay songs

the remaining song, Bang Bang, is the only skipper, IMO













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April 27th, 2012, 8:57 pm #8

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I really like this video:
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April 27th, 2012, 9:03 pm #9

"Gonna find her some money honey
Try to pay her rent
That's the kind of protection everyone is shouting about"


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April 27th, 2012, 9:50 pm #10

In the context of the decade, I think 1986 was a fairly creative year for DB, after the let down of Tonight.

He co-wrote and produced Blah Blah Blah, wrote and recorded NLMD, did the (now cult) Labyrinth songs, & recorded Absolute Beginners & When The Wind Blows

I think he had a lot of energy as he approached the milestone of his 40th birthday.
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April 27th, 2012, 10:09 pm #11

agreed n.l.m.d. is massively underrated.
beat of your drum is one of my favourite bowie tracks & i think zeroes is pretty catchy. it is of it's time but it brings back wonderful memories for me.
i was thrilled when i first saw the video to day in day out i thought he looked so cool on those roller skates and the gear he was wearing.
ah the year of the joshua tree and sign of the times i love 1987.

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April 27th, 2012, 10:10 pm #12

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April 27th, 2012, 10:18 pm #13

agreed n.l.m.d. is massively underrated.
beat of your drum is one of my favourite bowie tracks & i think zeroes is pretty catchy. it is of it's time but it brings back wonderful memories for me.
i was thrilled when i first saw the video to day in day out i thought he looked so cool on those roller skates and the gear he was wearing.
ah the year of the joshua tree and sign of the times i love 1987.
i remember badly wanting the leather jacket in the day in vid. looking at the vid now its hard to see what all the fuss was about.Bowie the only man in history to make a mullet look cool?
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April 27th, 2012, 10:24 pm #14

Played this in the car the other day, massively underrated.

Day in Day Out - Not a very strong opening song, almost as bad as Watch That Man, but the next 6 or so songs are great.

Time Will Crawl - eerie pop with a neat keyboard riff.

Beat of Your Drum - superb dramatic verses, slightly let down by an unremarkable chorus. Very similar to Because You're Young in that respect.

Never Let Me Down - just wonderful, love the harmonica

Zeroes - one of his best songs of the 80's


Glass Spider - the macabre atmosphere of the spoken intro eventually mutates into a superb rocker with a memorable refrain

Shining Star - love this song

Too Dizzy,New York's in Love & 87 & Cry are all okay songs

the remaining song, Bang Bang, is the only skipper, IMO













"Zeroes - one of his best songs of the 80's"
OMG!!! Are you sure???

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April 27th, 2012, 10:24 pm #15

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yes it was very cool to have a mullet at that time.
i thought bowie looked so cool around that time, another great image i loved those blood red stage suits & boots.
25 years it's crazy where the time has gone.
come jun 19/20th 25 years since those brilliant wembley stadium gigs, i was there.
can't imagine bowie's career without this period such fond memories i was 19.
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April 27th, 2012, 10:36 pm #16

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April 27th, 2012, 10:56 pm #17

Why they are hitting Bowie?
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April 28th, 2012, 12:35 am #18

ffs lee thanks for making me feel ancient as well .coming up to 25 years since my first bowie gig then,thought wembley gig was great but looking back it was probably just average considering the ones that followed.
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April 28th, 2012, 2:57 am #19

Played this in the car the other day, massively underrated.

Day in Day Out - Not a very strong opening song, almost as bad as Watch That Man, but the next 6 or so songs are great.

Time Will Crawl - eerie pop with a neat keyboard riff.

Beat of Your Drum - superb dramatic verses, slightly let down by an unremarkable chorus. Very similar to Because You're Young in that respect.

Never Let Me Down - just wonderful, love the harmonica

Zeroes - one of his best songs of the 80's


Glass Spider - the macabre atmosphere of the spoken intro eventually mutates into a superb rocker with a memorable refrain

Shining Star - love this song

Too Dizzy,New York's in Love & 87 & Cry are all okay songs

the remaining song, Bang Bang, is the only skipper, IMO













"almost as bad as Watch That Man"
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April 28th, 2012, 8:02 am #20

ffs lee thanks for making me feel ancient as well .coming up to 25 years since my first bowie gig then,thought wembley gig was great but looking back it was probably just average considering the ones that followed.
Imagine a nice 25th anniversary version. I'd buy it.
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April 28th, 2012, 1:01 pm #21

i would buy it in a heartbeat hm.
all those classic 12" remixes.
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April 28th, 2012, 2:12 pm #22

LOL!

Jellybean? utter shite!

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April 28th, 2012, 2:19 pm #23

I too remember buying this terrible album

I stopped buying Bowie until BTWN came out.

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April 28th, 2012, 2:42 pm #24

For me it's the best album from "the boring trilogy": Let's Dance, Tonight, NLMD.

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April 28th, 2012, 4:19 pm #25

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Horrid album.

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"Memories seen are all dark in the past"
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April 28th, 2012, 4:22 pm #26

*cassette
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April 28th, 2012, 4:29 pm #27

i refuse to listen to it

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April 28th, 2012, 7:56 pm #28

Oh dear, not my favourite Bowie by a country mile (or more).......

Mostly skip, skip.Particularly Glass Spider....

Quite like Time Will Crawl and Never Let Me Down and Shining Star and Beat of Your Drum could have been great...

Rarely play it.
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April 28th, 2012, 7:59 pm #29

Are you guys actually fans of Bowie?

Not the greatest album but a few good tracks.

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April 28th, 2012, 8:06 pm #30

Absolutely Baal.
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April 28th, 2012, 8:14 pm #31

I am no lover of Tin Machine but there is some (well a little) great music.

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April 28th, 2012, 8:21 pm #32

Absolutely Baal.
actually fans of bowie?

are we entitled to different opinions about bowie's work or do we need to like and love everything he did?
Well i don't, i never listen to the boring trilogy, terrible music imo,
i do not enjoy glassspider live and will never listen to it or even look at it
i can't even remember me enjoying it when i actually was there live
i really disliked the S and Vision tour which i thought to be uninspired and just boring
does that make me less a fan?
I don't think so, i still listen to bowie very often, i still skip the same cd's / songs like i have always done. I'm very happy to have seen him live several times so i can compare and appreciate the stuff i do like very much


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April 28th, 2012, 8:33 pm #33

What popp said!

These three albums Let's Dance - Tonight & Never Let Me Down are shite!!!

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April 28th, 2012, 8:38 pm #34

It would be nice to occasionally listen to the ones you skip though. Just to see.
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April 28th, 2012, 8:40 pm #35

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My first Bowie's show!

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April 28th, 2012, 8:46 pm #36

It would be nice to occasionally listen to the ones you skip though. Just to see.
I did this evening hm. Sorry, my opinion hasnt changed.

I still think however , there is some great material there....for me it just didnt work at that time....

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April 28th, 2012, 8:51 pm #37

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My first Bowie's show!

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I was over to the stage, he was so strong!

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April 28th, 2012, 8:59 pm #38

I did this evening hm. Sorry, my opinion hasnt changed.

I still think however , there is some great material there....for me it just didnt work at that time....
"I still think however , there is some great material there....for me it just didnt work at that time"

I have to agree Mick. The 70's and 90's even into Heathen were top notch song writing.

I'd rather forget the 80's stuff.

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April 28th, 2012, 9:38 pm #39

I was over to the stage, he was so strong!

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The Spider caught me!

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April 28th, 2012, 11:33 pm #40

at the time i'm sure we all liked it. i can't believe any true bowie fan would totally dislike it especially if you bought it at the time.
a new bowie album was and always will be an event, something to get really excited about.
i dunno it's just inbuilt in me to like everything he does i don't seem to have any control over that.i honestly can't say i've disliked anything he's done, sure some things are better than others but it's always interesting.
maybe it's got to mean something to you personally. i long for those days back again, better that than nothing at all.
i remember those days when there was a great bowie publication to collect namely starzone, and all those books, without those 3 key commercial albums we would have missed out on an awful lot of product.
i'd kill for another never let me down right now.

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April 29th, 2012, 12:04 am #41

wise words lee
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April 29th, 2012, 6:31 am #42

@Lee

not for me Lee, i grew up with "Heroes" and then found ziggy, aladdin etc and up untill let's dance i thought bowie could not do wrong but then let's dance was released
i tried hard to like it but it was a huge disappointment where others and a new audience liked it, i could live with it ofcourse but then came those other 2 and i was very very disappointed, left bowie for what he was untill BTWN which i also find to be very mediocre but i picked it up from there again, to me his best years after a long period of time had to come, with 1.Outside and earthling i was as big a fan as in the 70's, early 80's
i dont like those 3 albums and never will Lee, to me they're both musically (mainly production and sound) and lyricwise bad and uninteresting.
I can do without them very easily, i didn't even replace them for cd

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April 29th, 2012, 3:04 pm #43

ant you said you stopped buying bowie between nlmd and btwn is that because there were no new albums in between? did you not buy any TM either?
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April 29th, 2012, 3:14 pm #44

I believe Ant did not like TM at the time. He abhors vulgarity.

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April 29th, 2012, 3:16 pm #45

since when were TM considered vulgar?
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April 29th, 2012, 3:23 pm #46

Some of the lyrics weren't for day time radio Del. There was some minor debate over this at the time.

edited due to wrong name

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April 29th, 2012, 3:29 pm #47

I believe Ant did not like TM at the time. He abhors vulgarity.

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You are correct doc and I considered "Tin Machine" a horrible noise.

I only bought them on mini Japanese vinyl to complete my set years later and I've never ever played them.


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April 29th, 2012, 3:51 pm #48

I don't know if this makes a difference, but I approached DB's back catalogue completely without expectation or prejudice.

Obviously, I hoped I would like them, but I didn't know anything about how cool he was at the time of the albums' release, how critically acclaimed each album was, how much he was perceived to have sold out at the time, whether or not each album was popular with fans, or even how accessible or popular his albums were compared to each other. There was no internet to tell me that I should dislike NLMD to affect my opinion. I never knew I was supposed think S2S as cool.

I just judged each album of the merit of the songs, there was no nostalgia for any period as I picked up his entire back catalogue from 1990-92. Bought every single album I could as soon as it was reissued or I saw it for sale (the EMI albums). So for me, I approached S2S the same as I did Tin Machine. Hunky Dory given equal consideration to that which I gave NLMD.

I quickly found that Hunky Dory was awesome, ditto for Ziggy, Diamond Dogs and Low and I then discovered that a lot of the other albums were mixed in terms of the quality of the songs.

NLMD I thought was a creative album, when he wrestled himself free from the apathy of Tonight. Unlike it's 2 predecessors, Bowie was actually playing on the album and drumming up ideas and embracing his more obscure material for the world tour. He was trying to show the world how creative he was, not just relinquishing control to a producer such as Nile Rodgers. There were actually new songs as b-sides.

I'd place it above Pin Ups, BTWN, Tin Machine & Reality. It's certainly no Heathen, but not his worst album, IMO. I also think it would have worked better with Glass Spider as the opening song.



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April 29th, 2012, 4:40 pm #49

Some of the lyrics weren't for day time radio Del. There was some minor debate over this at the time.

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completely agree and it was probably designed not to be radio friendly,I just don't think vulgar is the right word,thats all.
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April 29th, 2012, 4:43 pm #50

I don't know if this makes a difference, but I approached DB's back catalogue completely without expectation or prejudice.

Obviously, I hoped I would like them, but I didn't know anything about how cool he was at the time of the albums' release, how critically acclaimed each album was, how much he was perceived to have sold out at the time, whether or not each album was popular with fans, or even how accessible or popular his albums were compared to each other. There was no internet to tell me that I should dislike NLMD to affect my opinion. I never knew I was supposed think S2S as cool.

I just judged each album of the merit of the songs, there was no nostalgia for any period as I picked up his entire back catalogue from 1990-92. Bought every single album I could as soon as it was reissued or I saw it for sale (the EMI albums). So for me, I approached S2S the same as I did Tin Machine. Hunky Dory given equal consideration to that which I gave NLMD.

I quickly found that Hunky Dory was awesome, ditto for Ziggy, Diamond Dogs and Low and I then discovered that a lot of the other albums were mixed in terms of the quality of the songs.

NLMD I thought was a creative album, when he wrestled himself free from the apathy of Tonight. Unlike it's 2 predecessors, Bowie was actually playing on the album and drumming up ideas and embracing his more obscure material for the world tour. He was trying to show the world how creative he was, not just relinquishing control to a producer such as Nile Rodgers. There were actually new songs as b-sides.

I'd place it above Pin Ups, BTWN, Tin Machine & Reality. It's certainly no Heathen, but not his worst album, IMO. I also think it would have worked better with Glass Spider as the opening song.


do people think NLMD would of been slagged of so much if tonight had not existed? That way lets dance would of been seen as bowie pandering to the mainstream then moving back to doing his own thing.
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