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1983-1987?

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12 Jul 2017, 20:29 #1

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
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12 Jul 2017, 21:12 #2

I think it might be wishful thinkiing about a Serious Moonlight set in the box - it'll probably come out, but separate.

I think you're right about two NLMD, although rather than a raw mix just the two released versions, as some of the tracks on the CD version were longer than the original vinyl version, which I think is only currently available on iTunes. It'll be interesting to see if Too Dizzy gets restored too!

Also I guess Labyrinth will be in there too.

So I think it'll be:

Let's Dance
Tonight
Labyrinth
NLMD CD version
NLMD original vinyl version
Montreal 87 (2CD)
Re:Call - single edits, remixes, B-sides, Dancing in the Street (if we really must!), This is Not America, Absolute Beginners tracks, When the Wind Blows, etc.

Re:Call might be two or three disks, maybe even four if it includes all the stuff from the 12"s. If they were still a disk short, they could fill it out a bit, in a similar style to The Gouster, with the unreleased album Dance.
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12 Jul 2017, 21:21 #3

I would look forward to this actually. Hopefully with the demo's for the above albums and the film songs he did and all the various film mixes that havent been available on CD etc.

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12 Jul 2017, 21:25 #4

"Hopefully with the demo's for the above albums and the film songs he did and all the various film mixes that havent been available on CD etc. "

wishful thinking
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12 Jul 2017, 21:27 #5

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
I wonder if labyrinth will get a separate release with the extended dub and dance mixes?
Will the lost album dance be included?
what will recall consist of just the edits and bsides?
like the heroes ep will the other download eps get separate CD and vinyl releases.
how will they organise all these extended mixes?
Will they actually break with protocol and release a previously unreleased live album in this series?
Will they issue the special vinyl edit version of never let me down?
is there a chance the first tin machine album may be included 1983- 1989?
Will too dizzy be reinstated?


this one raises many questions, it certainly will be more interesting than the current one, there's real potential here. il be more than happy to get those 12 inch extended eps.
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12 Jul 2017, 21:32 #6

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
I hate to spoil the party, but I keep seeing Montreal 83 this, Montreal 83 that...when I listened to it recently, I realised why I've never listened to it much...it's a bit too clinical.

Don't get me wrong, there are great moments, there's nothing wrong with any of the songs, but it's heavy going in one sitting, even two.

Give me Vancouver 83 any day.

I like the 83 tour, but there's something I can't put my finger on...despite the obvious concerns over quality of songs picked, I think I still enjoy the 87 tour more as a concert experience...yes he played more hits in 83, but I find it hard to get through those Montreal shows.

Glass Spider could do with some rehearsal takes of some of the songs I reckon too.

But then what one or two fans might want and the rest can be very different
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12 Jul 2017, 21:43 #7

I just really really want to hear the demos for Lets Dance, Modern Love and Loving the Alien. He recorded the entire Lets Dance album in Switzerland as a demo version then re-recorded it in New York as the version we all know.

Maybe one day we will get to hear the original Buddah soundtrack album alongside the issued one. (One of my all time Fave Bowie albums)

Jx

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12 Jul 2017, 21:57 #8

yes I'm inclined to agree now, the more I think of it the more I don't think we will get an 83 show in the next set although I think Montreal will get a release in a separate release.

I do agree about vancouver that show has an excellent audio soundtrack and yes I prefer it to Montreal both nites.
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12 Jul 2017, 22:01 #9

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
The Montreal 87 cd need sorting out the sudden audio change halfway through scary monsters spoils it for me but im not sure this can be rectified though
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12 Jul 2017, 22:04 #10

Also have you noticed on the video we tend to miss Station to Station as it shows a clip of him backstage during the intro.
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12 Jul 2017, 22:22 #11

Al, these demos will turn up when we are all dead , and then no one would care anyway !
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12 Jul 2017, 22:46 #12

"Will they actually break with protocol and release a previously unreleased live album in this series? "

each box set (other than the first) has gone against the "protocol"

WCIBN - had an unreleased album
ANCIANT - has an EP

so anything is possible.

note: I've never noticed that before A New Career in a New Town ironically almost spells out "Ancient"
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12 Jul 2017, 23:12 #13

actually what would be a good edition is the songs from the SE Asia part of the tour. As on Ricochet. And lets not forget his cover of Imagine.
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12 Jul 2017, 23:27 #14

"Will they actually break with protocol and release a previously unreleased live album in this series? "

each box set (other than the first) has gone against the "protocol"

WCIBN - had an unreleased album
ANCIANT - has an EP

so anything is possible.

note: I've never noticed that before A New Career in a New Town ironically almost spells out "Ancient"
Almost certain:

Let's Dance [1 CD]
Tonight [1 CD]
"Dance" - the unreleased compilation of Dance Remixes [1 CD]
Never Let Me Down - CD Version [1 CD]
Never Let Me Down - Vinyl Version with tracks edited differently [1 CD]
Glass Spider Live [2 cd]
Re:Call 3 [1 CD... but if you include remixes and soundtrack stuff - that can very easily be pushed out to two or more]

My guesses:

Either the soundtrack songs (such as 'When the Wind Blows', 'Underground', et al) will go onto "Re:Call" - or they'll have their own unique disc

I'm hoping that "Dancing in the Street" is only included in "Re:Call" and it's not a separate EP

If it ever actually happened, Bowie's "remix / re-version" of NLMD would be included (there's a mention of it on 'iSelect'... I think)

There's a slim chance that at least one of the singles from "Blah Blah Blah" could be included

we certainly won't hear demo's - at least not at this point

I bet a Serious Moonlight concert will be released, but not in the box set (like Cracked Actor)

I also find it very hard to believe that Tin Machine will be included
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12 Jul 2017, 23:31 #15

"I also find it very hard to believe that Tin Machine will be included"

no doubt a 1989 (or 1988 if including Look Back in Anger) to 1993 will cover that.
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13 Jul 2017, 06:12 #16

I think the recall for this period will be very full. For a start it needs to contain the labyrinth songs because the whole album wasn't all Bowie material. Then he released a lot of original b sides at that time, then there is the misery of the 12 inch remixes.

Let's Dance Single Edit
China Girl Single Edit
Modern Love Live B Side
Blue Jean extended Remix
Dancing with the big boys Vocal mix
Dancing with the big boys Dub Mix
Tonight dub mix
Tonight dance mix
Tumble and twirl extended mix
This is not America
This is not America Instrumental
Loving the Alien remix
Don't look down remix
Don't look down dance mix
Loving the alien dub mix
Loving the alien dance mix
Dancing in the street plus about 5 tedious remixes
Underground plus about 5 tedious remixes
Within You
Magic Dance
Chilly Down
As the World Falls Down
Absolute Beginners
Absolute beginners single edit
Volare
That's motivation
Girls
Julie
When the wind blows single edit
When the wind blows 12"
When the wind blows instrumentals remixes in a row on a 12 inch
Day in day out remixes
Never let me down remixes
Time will crawl remixes

It strikes me that because of the obsession with remixes in the 80s this could be a very very tedious release - not the same as the other eras at all. I listened to all the remixes in a row when I bought each 12" when it came out and I instantly hated the original song. It was such a blatant attempt to monetise as far as possible a very very small amount of output - to release every song on the tonight album (bar I keep forgetting and God only knows) as a single or b side or remix, long, long after the original album had come out.. This really was Bowie shilling the rubes, to do it again in a boxed set of remix shite is unforgivable in my view. I can see the point of single edits and full length version of say absolute beginners but the dub mixes are entirely execrable. It would just underscore how awful this period was. My memory of it was rummaging through a vast pile of rubbish to find the very rare highlight to be honest.


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13 Jul 2017, 07:02 #17

I think the extended eps have to be released. they had official download releases like heroes and baal did now they get there release on this box set so I expect and I hope they do too. it's a question how they will choose to compile them and if tgey decide to exhaust them all.
don't forget shake it the long version, bside of the 12 inch vinyl of shake it. hasnt had a digital release so it should be on recall.
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13 Jul 2017, 07:05 #18

I think the recall for this period will be very full. For a start it needs to contain the labyrinth songs because the whole album wasn't all Bowie material. Then he released a lot of original b sides at that time, then there is the misery of the 12 inch remixes.

Let's Dance Single Edit
China Girl Single Edit
Modern Love Live B Side
Blue Jean extended Remix
Dancing with the big boys Vocal mix
Dancing with the big boys Dub Mix
Tonight dub mix
Tonight dance mix
Tumble and twirl extended mix
This is not America
This is not America Instrumental
Loving the Alien remix
Don't look down remix
Don't look down dance mix
Loving the alien dub mix
Loving the alien dance mix
Dancing in the street plus about 5 tedious remixes
Underground plus about 5 tedious remixes
Within You
Magic Dance
Chilly Down
As the World Falls Down
Absolute Beginners
Absolute beginners single edit
Volare
That's motivation
Girls
Julie
When the wind blows single edit
When the wind blows 12"
When the wind blows instrumentals remixes in a row on a 12 inch
Day in day out remixes
Never let me down remixes
Time will crawl remixes

It strikes me that because of the obsession with remixes in the 80s this could be a very very tedious release - not the same as the other eras at all. I listened to all the remixes in a row when I bought each 12" when it came out and I instantly hated the original song. It was such a blatant attempt to monetise as far as possible a very very small amount of output - to release every song on the tonight album (bar I keep forgetting and God only knows) as a single or b side or remix, long, long after the original album had come out.. This really was Bowie shilling the rubes, to do it again in a boxed set of remix shite is unforgivable in my view. I can see the point of single edits and full length version of say absolute beginners but the dub mixes are entirely execrable. It would just underscore how awful this period was. My memory of it was rummaging through a vast pile of rubbish to find the very rare highlight to be honest.

Most remixes have very little to do with the artist's input. They normally commission others to do it for them. Having said that, I'm sure they give the final nod. I actually quite like the remixes though. Not all but most. Actually, I would be surprised if there wasn't an extended version of As the World Falls Down as it was pulled from being a single at the 11th hour.

Then there's the Shake It remix. It's actually an improvement on the original.
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13 Jul 2017, 07:52 #19

some of the remix eps like day in day out and time will crawl had 2 eps each.
they may condense those down, not sure if they would include all the dub mixes, and there were some edits of the extended mixes which may not be included. the extended dub of loving the alien is excellent better than the dance version. there's also an ep for dancing in the street to consider.

shake it yes that bside remix is far superior. when the wind blows the extended version is also superior to the single.
I've really no idea how they will begin to tackle this one. 1 recall disc would certainly be no good.
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13 Jul 2017, 08:02 #20

ah yes the Loving the Alien dub mix. I love that. Its better than the album version. Dancing in the street mix..too much cow bell. Yeah surely only the cream of the mixes though. No room for all of it.
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13 Jul 2017, 08:05 #21

I think the recall for this period will be very full. For a start it needs to contain the labyrinth songs because the whole album wasn't all Bowie material. Then he released a lot of original b sides at that time, then there is the misery of the 12 inch remixes.

Let's Dance Single Edit
China Girl Single Edit
Modern Love Live B Side
Blue Jean extended Remix
Dancing with the big boys Vocal mix
Dancing with the big boys Dub Mix
Tonight dub mix
Tonight dance mix
Tumble and twirl extended mix
This is not America
This is not America Instrumental
Loving the Alien remix
Don't look down remix
Don't look down dance mix
Loving the alien dub mix
Loving the alien dance mix
Dancing in the street plus about 5 tedious remixes
Underground plus about 5 tedious remixes
Within You
Magic Dance
Chilly Down
As the World Falls Down
Absolute Beginners
Absolute beginners single edit
Volare
That's motivation
Girls
Julie
When the wind blows single edit
When the wind blows 12"
When the wind blows instrumentals remixes in a row on a 12 inch
Day in day out remixes
Never let me down remixes
Time will crawl remixes

It strikes me that because of the obsession with remixes in the 80s this could be a very very tedious release - not the same as the other eras at all. I listened to all the remixes in a row when I bought each 12" when it came out and I instantly hated the original song. It was such a blatant attempt to monetise as far as possible a very very small amount of output - to release every song on the tonight album (bar I keep forgetting and God only knows) as a single or b side or remix, long, long after the original album had come out.. This really was Bowie shilling the rubes, to do it again in a boxed set of remix shite is unforgivable in my view. I can see the point of single edits and full length version of say absolute beginners but the dub mixes are entirely execrable. It would just underscore how awful this period was. My memory of it was rummaging through a vast pile of rubbish to find the very rare highlight to be honest.

There are also 4 mixes of Magic Dance from its EP, and a 12" mix of Shining Star which is on the NLMD digital EP, although that was previously unreleased (can't imagine why!) so might not qualify, but there's probably nowhere else to put it...

Not really a remix, but Al Alba will probably be on there too, since that's available digitally too...
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13 Jul 2017, 08:14 #22

I have a soft spot for the full remix of when the wind blows, that was splendid. Underground is great too in full length format as is Absolute Beginners. However the remixes of the album tracks...jeez
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13 Jul 2017, 09:56 #23

there's no reason not to include the 12 inch version of shining star as it is previously released now on the digital download ep so I would expect that to be there.
I wonder if the never let me down vinyl version will stay faithful to the original and be included as such in the vinyl box set?
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13 Jul 2017, 14:17 #24

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
My list of a potential 13, leading up to 1993 excluding Tin Machine:

>Let's Dance
>Tonight
>Never Let Me Down
>Black Tie White Noise
>Black Tie White Noise: Extras
>The Buddha of Suburbia

>Montreal 1983 (2 discs)
>Glass Spider (2 discs)

>Re:call 4
---China Girl (Single Version)
---Shake It (12" Remix)
---Modern Love (Single Version)
---Let's Dance (Single Version)
---This Is Not America
---Dancing in the Street (Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero Mix)
---Absolute Beginners
---Underground (Extended Dance Mix)
---Magic Dance (12" Remix)
---When The Wind Blows (Extended Mix)
---Look Back In Anger ('88 Version)
---Fame '90 (House Mix)
---Sound and Vision (808 Gift Mix)
---Bring Me The Disco King (1992)

>Tonight: Extras
---Tonight (Live 1985 with Tina Turner)
---Don't Look Down (Extended Dance Mix)
---Blue Jean (Extended Dance Mix)
---Loving the Alien (Remix)
---Dancing with the Big Boys (Extended Vocal Mix)
---Tumble and Twirl (Extended Dance Mix)
---Don't Look Down (Remix)
---Dancing with the Big Boys (Extended Dub Mix)
---Tonight (Vocal Dance Mix)
---Loving the Alien (Extended Dance Mix)

>Never Let Me Down: Extras
---Never Let Me Down (7" Remix)
---Julie
---Day-In Day-Out (12" Groucho Mix)
---Al Alba
---Time Will Crawl (Extended Dance Mix)
---Girls
---'87 and Cry (Single Version)
---Time Will Crawl (Dance Crew Mix)
---Girls (Japanese Version)
---Never Let Me Down (Extended Dance Mix)

Only things "from the vault" would be Montreal & the 1992 recording of Disco King. Labyrinth's soundtrack would work better as a standalone album rather than stuck into a boxset. Trashed the majority of the "dub mixes". Tin Machine discography would be its own boxset packaged with a "Fuck You I <3 Tin Machine" T-shirt.
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13 Jul 2017, 19:17 #25

I actually think tin machine will be absorbed into an 80s box set. Unless it starts an 88 to 98 set. I doubt a tin machine set will be released. That said I bet the powers that be simply read these boards and pick one of the compilations proposed.
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13 Jul 2017, 21:23 #26

who knows? maybe it will go 1983-1989 as having the TM tagged on, may make it more sellable than a TM boxset.

anyway, taking into account its only up to 1987, it's Re:call that really makes the difference but in some ways they could do a complete cop out and not even have mixes. There's enough material to get away with without relying on them. Besides, they might throw in the unreleased Dance album.

anyway I reckon Re:call 4 will be like this..

Let's Dance (Single Version)
China Girl (Single Version)
Shake It (12" Remix)
Modern Love (Single Version)
Modern Love (live Version)
Loving The Alien (single version)
Don't Look Down (remixed version)
Tonight (live with Tina Turner)
This Is Not America
When The Wind Blows (single version)
Dancing in the Street (single version)
That's Motivation
Volare
Never Let Me Down (7" Remix)
Julie
Al Alba
Time Will Crawl (2007 version if not included anywhere else)
Girls
'87 and Cry (Single Version)
Time Will Crawl (Dance Crew Mix)
Girls (Japanese Version)


"Unless it starts an 88 to 98 set." that's too much of a timespan.
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14 Jul 2017, 07:40 #27

there are instrumental versions of this is not america and when the wind blows which were 7 inch bsides. maybe and hopefully all these plus the edits and single mixes and bonus tracks will be on recall 4 and dance will be separate and extended with all the mixes over 2 or 3 discs. even the labyrinth album, single versions and extended mixes could be a separate set.


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14 Jul 2017, 07:43 #28

I genuinely think a complete remixes set in recall will force the 80s material to be reassessed on a wider scale (rather than just by me and sylvianne for the last few years). That sound is massive at the moment and the remixes in almost all cases trump the originals.
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14 Jul 2017, 08:15 #29

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
I think you pretty much nailed it sonofsilence but I somewhat expect Labyrinth to be included. No way Black Tie or Buddha would make it on this as some people have suggested, start of a completely different era.

The real question is Tin Machine. I can't see them doing a standalone TM box. I can see them putting it on the tail end of this one though. Along with the Ryko material. So possibly add Tin Machine, Tin Machine II, and Oy Vey Baby.
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14 Jul 2017, 08:25 #30

hey thanks. I kind of took into account hey might just have the soundtrack to labyrinth. How knows, they may include the Live Aid set with Dancing in the Streets as a bonus disc. (woopee)

TM is an odd one really . Probably best tagged on with the 90's. The Gabrels' years or at least 89 to 93 (inc S+V live album)
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14 Jul 2017, 08:58 #31

None of these box sets excites me.

We've got it all already.

The TV mix will be on eBay soon enough for £11.56 on Ebay
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14 Jul 2017, 10:27 #32

hey thanks. I kind of took into account hey might just have the soundtrack to labyrinth. How knows, they may include the Live Aid set with Dancing in the Streets as a bonus disc. (woopee)

TM is an odd one really . Probably best tagged on with the 90's. The Gabrels' years or at least 89 to 93 (inc S+V live album)
Part of me thinks though that Sticking Tin Machine at the front of the 90s box undermines the 'fresh new start' that BTWN represents.
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14 Jul 2017, 10:41 #33

Tin Machine requires a separate box. If done right it'll be fantastic.

OK, fantasticish.
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14 Jul 2017, 10:58 #34

Part of me thinks though that Sticking Tin Machine at the front of the 90s box undermines the 'fresh new start' that BTWN represents.
1989-1991.

short but cheaper. then again this would also encompass S+V live and Fame 90.
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14 Jul 2017, 11:23 #35

They could stick the Ryko tracks on the ReCall disk in a set like that too.
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14 Jul 2017, 11:29 #36

Nooooo!
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14 Jul 2017, 13:39 #37

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
I think Tin Machine deserves its own box, to have its discography in one place of its own. It'd be too overshadowed by everything else if it lumped into a Bowie era boxset.

'83-'93 makes the most sense to me since that's the time where Bowie's at full pop mode, then when the Outside years kicks in we have a fresh new beginning. Speaking of Sound + Vision I'd love to see one of that tour's shows become a live album, whether it's standalone or in a box.
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14 Jul 2017, 16:09 #38

My guess as to the next series of box sets:-

Box Set 4:-
Let's Dance
Tonight
Never Let Me Down
Black Tie White Noise
Serious Moonlight live
Glass Spider live
Re:Call 4

Box Set 5:-
Buddha of Suburbia
Outside
Earthling
Hours
Toy
Bowie Live.com
Re:Call 5

Box Set 6:-
Heathen
Reality
The Next Day
Blackstar
Heathen Meltdown Festival
Reality Live
Re:Call 6

I believe that this will carry on all the way through to Blackstar, as it continues to be advertised as career spanning from 1969.
It's possible though that Tin Machine is bypassed although a seperate set could be included.
It's relatively easy to compile all recordings from Space Oddity to Scary Monsters, but after that there are different record labels, seemingly infinite remixes, movie work, etc, that it does become more complicated to have a definitive collection, but we shall see.
There's no getting round it, either these are nicely produced box sets collecting his work, or rip offs to get the fans to buy the same product again, take your choice.

Does anyone remember this which was widely reported shortly after Bowie's passing?:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 30766.html

I don't know if there was any substance to these reports, or if it was just a mix up of the continuation of the box sets.


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14 Jul 2017, 17:36 #39

I reckon Glass Spider Live, Serious Moonlight Live, Live and Well etc etc will get RSD releases. Then they'll get cd releases. The box sets will be material that has been released before with maybe the odd 'hard to find' edit on the recall discs.

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14 Jul 2017, 21:09 #40

box 4 - 83 to 87
11 discs.

let's dance 1
tonight 2
dance (original lost album) 3
never let me down 4
serious moonlight live vancouver 5/6
glass spider live montreal 7/8
the 12 inch remixes 9/10
recall (edits and bsides) 11.

the more I think it won't be Montreal 83 live but they could well opt for vancouver. unlike Montreal vancouver they can say has had a previous release on the DVD and a download ep. is actually prefer vancouver.

tin machine don't fit here neither does btwn.
this next one could even be the final box set for now. it could move on to rare and unreleased or a live series. this box has more balance to it tin machine would stick out like a sore thumb.
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14 Jul 2017, 22:09 #41

"this next one could even be the final box set for now. it could move on to rare and unreleased or a live series. this box has more balance to it tin machine would stick out like a sore thumb."

yeah true. Personally, I think that from 2019 we'll start seeing the albums rolled out individually with deluxe sets. as it will be the start of the 50th anniversary rounds. How convenient.

It will make sense to roll out all the 50th anniversary editions sooner rather than when it comes up. Otherwise the market for them will literally die off before they even get to them. eg. Let's Dance 50th in 2033!!
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14 Jul 2017, 23:27 #42

Personally I loved the first version of Dancing in the Street - the one that was broadcast on the day of Live Aid. I loved it at the time, and I thought oh that's so good, I played it back again and again on video. Then I went on holiday and came back and it was No,1 - but in a different mix.

The original mix is burned in my memory, and less brash...it deserves a full stereo release on the next box, as it was heard by millions that way first.

I know many hate the song, I don't...nowadays I see it a fun hit, it's not a Bowie classic, but I don't think it anywhere near as bad some think it is.

Also the remixes of Bowie's version of the song Tonight are nice, very pleasant indeed. I do love Iggy's original, but I like Bowie's take on it a lot too. Slinky and gorgeous.

Don't Look Down and Neighbourhood Threat are fine by me too...hell, while I can understand why a box celebrating Bowie's mid 80's work is unappealing to many, in the right mood I can enjoy a lot of that output..I do agree that the 12" mixes can become annoying...in such a box some clever sequencing would be needed to consign them all to the end of the respective CD's so many of us can just switch off before they start or at least only bother with them occasionally. I guess I would do that every so often, I do vaguely recall the Dancing with the Big Boys 12" mix being not upalatable, but like I say the 12" mixes I would only want to hear in small doses on occasion.
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15 Jul 2017, 00:09 #43

Seems like the obvious choice.

OK there's already another post about the name prediction so looking at other aspects. To get to that magic 13LP like the other three.

Let's Dance
Serious Moonlight Live Montreal (3LP)
Tonight
NLMD
NLMD - Raw mix
Glass Spider Live (3LP)
Re:Call (3LP) - non album singles, b-sides, remixes and single edits.

Thought it will seem odd Visconti remastering this as he had bugger all to do with any of it.
A yearly "new" live album for Record Store Day makes sense if it becomes a trend; I'd want the next one to be Seattle '76 if there's one released for each tour, with Isolar I following Diamond Dogs' tour. I can't think of anything remarkable from Isolar II that'd be comparable to Stage though..
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15 Jul 2017, 09:02 #44

for 78 it looks likely Perth would be it. Earls court would have made a nice set. full soundboard with the hemmings DVD.

going back to the 12 inch mixes most of these are fantastic and a lot of them were done by the top remixers at that time. at least they stayed faithful to the original song a lot of the 90s mixes were mixed beyond all recognition and dreadful for that. miracle goodnight stands out as I loved that song and was so disappointed when I got the 12 inch mixes. there were a few exceptions but not many.
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15 Jul 2017, 09:10 #45

The Adam F mix of Telling Lies was far superior to the album version.
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15 Jul 2017, 09:44 #46

for 78 it looks likely Perth would be it. Earls court would have made a nice set. full soundboard with the hemmings DVD.

going back to the 12 inch mixes most of these are fantastic and a lot of them were done by the top remixers at that time. at least they stayed faithful to the original song a lot of the 90s mixes were mixed beyond all recognition and dreadful for that. miracle goodnight stands out as I loved that song and was so disappointed when I got the 12 inch mixes. there were a few exceptions but not many.
Perth 78 would be boring though, we talked about this . Bowie's tours often limped towards the end as the musicians got bored playing the same songe for 6 months, with the odd show here and there when they pulled it out the bag (Tokyo 78 the TV broadcast show - because it was on TV and the drummer wore a monkey mask, they all perked up a bit).

Earl's Court 78 could be an interesting show as an LP and CD set to accompany a DVD could be good though, especially if they could get the mix right to make Sound and Vision to 'work' more. It wasn't the greatest version of it, but if they concentrated on some of the extra instruments and the audience sound on that song it could give it quite a 'vibe', carry that across the whole album could be an interesting listening experience imo.

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15 Jul 2017, 16:18 #47

that recent Perth bside sounded very good, art decade. surely thats the giveaway that its coming at some point? but I get what your saying I read somewhere that show was half empty too.
the usa shows were better baton rouge and detroit for example but we already got stage.
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15 Jul 2017, 16:52 #48

I think and hope that Perth song was a one off, to sell that single. Nice though it would be to have an unheard show, the idea of it being from later in the tour worries me.

An early show with Rock and Roll Suicide would be nice, just as an early 1974 show with Drive in Saturday would be nice.

But you can't always get what you want...
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08 Aug 2017, 19:24 #49

Earls Court on DVD would be nice
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