Ken
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9:00 PM - Apr 30, 2008 #11

as registered by the Copyright Office are as I gave earlier, first registered on 31 July 1929 and renewed on 20 May 1957.
Therefore the film was made before 31 July 1929 and not after 31 August.
One of the music titles is "How Can I Love Again" - which is also the official title of the film. If this is not on the existing 16" disc there must be another one.
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9:38 PM - Apr 30, 2008 #12

Segar [sic] Ellis and His Embassy Club Orchestra (1929)

Director: Murray Roth
Release Date: June 1929 (USA)
Genre: Short | Music
Cast
(Credited cast)
Segar Ellis ... Himself
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Eddie Lang ... Himself
Runtime: USA:8 min
Country:
USA
Language:
English
Color:
Black and White
Aspect Ratio:
1.37 : 1 more
Sound Mix: Vitaphone
Vitaphone production reel #823
Songs
# "How Can I Love Again ?"
Performed by Segar Ellis and His Embassy Club Orchestra
# "Am I Blue"
by Grant Clarke and Harry Akst
Performed by Segar Ellis and His Embassy Club Orchestra
# "I've got a Feeling I'm Falling"
Performed by Segar Ellis and His Embassy Club Orchestra

I gave the first title in the disc copied by Enrico as "After Loving You." The words go as follows, "How Can I Love Again After Loving You?" "After Loving You" and ""How Can I Love Again?" are one and the same.

The film was made before May 24, 1929. Eddie Lang was on his way to California on that day. It was issued either in May 1929 ("Vitaphone Films" by Roy Liebman, as reported by Vince) or June 1929 (IMDB Data Base).

Albert

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11:37 AM - May 01, 2008 #13

as registered by the Copyright Office are as I gave earlier, first registered on 31 July 1929 and renewed on 20 May 1957.
Therefore the film was made before 31 July 1929 and not after 31 August.
One of the music titles is "How Can I Love Again" - which is also the official title of the film. If this is not on the existing 16" disc there must be another one.
.... of the information you provided?

Albert
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8:01 AM - May 02, 2008 #14

This information is available from a 9 Lbs. 1300 page thick book titled "20.000 Motion Pictures in the Public Domain" which gives title, brief details, copyright date and copyright renewal date of more than 50.000 films made between 1894 and 1939. (Of which 20.000 are in the public domain).
I use it mainly to find out if certain films exist(ed) or not - for instance, all the DeForest films are listed but there is no mention of one made by the Wolverine Orchestra.
Among the more interesting films yet to surface are "Syncopated Breezes" by Bobby Gillette with Doris Walker (1928), "Carnival Nights" with Henry Halstead's Band (although I have seen a brief clip of this in a Harley Davidson documentary; a very hot version of "San" played by the Halstead Band)(1927), a film of the Earl Burnett Orchestra (1928), four films by Vincent Lopez and his Orchestra (from 1927-1929), a 1928 film of the Abe Lyman band etc. etc. - there is much more......
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11:11 AM - May 02, 2008 #15

Unfortunately, neither the local library nor the university library has a copy of this. The New York Public Library is the nearest librry that has it, and it is about 50 miles away from here.

Albert
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11:44 AM - May 03, 2008 #16

This information is available from a 9 Lbs. 1300 page thick book titled "20.000 Motion Pictures in the Public Domain" which gives title, brief details, copyright date and copyright renewal date of more than 50.000 films made between 1894 and 1939. (Of which 20.000 are in the public domain).
I use it mainly to find out if certain films exist(ed) or not - for instance, all the DeForest films are listed but there is no mention of one made by the Wolverine Orchestra.
Among the more interesting films yet to surface are "Syncopated Breezes" by Bobby Gillette with Doris Walker (1928), "Carnival Nights" with Henry Halstead's Band (although I have seen a brief clip of this in a Harley Davidson documentary; a very hot version of "San" played by the Halstead Band)(1927), a film of the Earl Burnett Orchestra (1928), four films by Vincent Lopez and his Orchestra (from 1927-1929), a 1928 film of the Abe Lyman band etc. etc. - there is much more......
Thanks for the heads up. I recorded the audio portion of a c.1928 Earl Burtnett short from YouTube a while back but that video seems to be gone from YouTube. If anyone wants me to post the audio portion of that let me know. Is there only one Earl Burtnett movie listed in that tome you mentioned?
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12:32 PM - May 03, 2008 #17

.... <a href="http://www.vitaphone.org/</a" target="_new">http://www.vitaphone.org/</a>

there are four Earl Burnett shorts. This is the information provided in the Vitaphone site.

1089 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X 2295-1-2 Burtnett, Earl; and his Orch. TAPE 4-V
1090 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 47-V
1091 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 48-V
1092 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett & his Orch. X 2294 1 VA-2294-1-2 Burtnett, Earl & his Orch.

The IMDB data base gives the numbers as #2285, #2286 #2294 and #2295.

It will be interesting to see what Ken finds in "20.000 Motion Pictures in the Public Domain."

A bit more about Earl Burtnett from <a href="http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a" target="_new">http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a>

A leap ahead now from East to West Coast, and from 1908 to 1929 where we see a wonderfully silly publicity photo heralding the release of Brunswick phonograph recordings of tunes from MGM's "The Broadway Melody." The film's three major players (Bessie Love, Charles King and Anita Page) can be seen here, surrounded by Earl Burtnett and his Biltmore Hotel Orchestra, but front and center is a beautifully crafted gigantic mock-up of a Brunswick disc that likely made the rounds of theater lobbies and retail stores alike, designed to fold at the center for easy transport and storage.



Finally, according to IMDB the Earl Burtnett Biltmore Hotel orchestra appeared in two full lnght features, "The Flying Fool" (1929, unredied) and "Party Girl" (1930).

Albert
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4:46 PM - May 04, 2008 #18

With his generosity and form his vast collection, Steve H sends several images of Earl Burtnett Columbia Radio Discs, early 30s, 12-inch., double sided (except for the theme).

Program 14 (L1042B) Theme Song-Some Sweet Day
Program 17A (L1043) Them There Eyes-High Water
Program 17B (L1046) Jealous-Love Tales
Program 19A (L1045) Skirts-Something To Remember You By
Program 19B (L1052) Canadian Capers
Program 26A (L1107A) She Went To Havana
Program 26B (L1114) By The River St. Marie-Reaching For The Moon









Albert

PS The 1928 Vitaphone of Burtnett's band is back up on youtube.com. See
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1pv_vVw84Uo
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5:16 PM - May 05, 2008 #19

.... <a href="http://www.vitaphone.org/</a" target="_new">http://www.vitaphone.org/</a>

there are four Earl Burnett shorts. This is the information provided in the Vitaphone site.

1089 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X 2295-1-2 Burtnett, Earl; and his Orch. TAPE 4-V
1090 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 47-V
1091 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 48-V
1092 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett & his Orch. X 2294 1 VA-2294-1-2 Burtnett, Earl & his Orch.

The IMDB data base gives the numbers as #2285, #2286 #2294 and #2295.

It will be interesting to see what Ken finds in "20.000 Motion Pictures in the Public Domain."

A bit more about Earl Burtnett from <a href="http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a" target="_new">http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a>

A leap ahead now from East to West Coast, and from 1908 to 1929 where we see a wonderfully silly publicity photo heralding the release of Brunswick phonograph recordings of tunes from MGM's "The Broadway Melody." The film's three major players (Bessie Love, Charles King and Anita Page) can be seen here, surrounded by Earl Burtnett and his Biltmore Hotel Orchestra, but front and center is a beautifully crafted gigantic mock-up of a Brunswick disc that likely made the rounds of theater lobbies and retail stores alike, designed to fold at the center for easy transport and storage.



Finally, according to IMDB the Earl Burtnett Biltmore Hotel orchestra appeared in two full lnght features, "The Flying Fool" (1929, unredied) and "Party Girl" (1930).

Albert
Great photo! I've had a smaller blurry version of it - this copy is sensational! I notice here and in THE BROADWAY MELODY itself that the band had a bunch of guitarists and banjo players - any idea who the Hawaiian-looking guitar guy on the top row is?

Dave
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4:52 PM - May 07, 2008 #20

.... <a href="http://www.vitaphone.org/</a" target="_new">http://www.vitaphone.org/</a>

there are four Earl Burnett shorts. This is the information provided in the Vitaphone site.

1089 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X 2295-1-2 Burtnett, Earl; and his Orch. TAPE 4-V
1090 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 47-V
1091 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett X Burtnett, Earl; & his Orch. TAPE 48-V
1092 Vitaphone Earl Burtnett & his Orch. X 2294 1 VA-2294-1-2 Burtnett, Earl & his Orch.

The IMDB data base gives the numbers as #2285, #2286 #2294 and #2295.

It will be interesting to see what Ken finds in "20.000 Motion Pictures in the Public Domain."

A bit more about Earl Burtnett from <a href="http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a" target="_new">http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/2007/02/m ... ts.html</a>

A leap ahead now from East to West Coast, and from 1908 to 1929 where we see a wonderfully silly publicity photo heralding the release of Brunswick phonograph recordings of tunes from MGM's "The Broadway Melody." The film's three major players (Bessie Love, Charles King and Anita Page) can be seen here, surrounded by Earl Burtnett and his Biltmore Hotel Orchestra, but front and center is a beautifully crafted gigantic mock-up of a Brunswick disc that likely made the rounds of theater lobbies and retail stores alike, designed to fold at the center for easy transport and storage.



Finally, according to IMDB the Earl Burtnett Biltmore Hotel orchestra appeared in two full lnght features, "The Flying Fool" (1929, unredied) and "Party Girl" (1930).

Albert
I read recently in Wikipedia, that Anita Page is one of six silent film stars still alive. IMDB even lists her in some recent (early 2000s) movies!

Mike
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