“She’s a Great Great Girl,” a composition by Harry Woods.

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7:09 PM - Jul 22, 2018 #1




Henry MacGregor "Harry" Woods was a Tin Pan Alley songwriter and pianist.
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         Born: Nov 04, 1896 · North Chelmsford, MA
         Died: Jan 14, 1970 · Glendale, AZ
He was inducted in the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1970.
https://www.songhall.org/profile/Harry_M_Woods
ASCAP lists 182 songs composed by Harry Woods.


There were several recordings of “She’s a Great Great Girl” in the 1920s , both in the US and in Europe. Here are some examples:
 
Hal Kemp   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3i8HXKHISA
 
Jan Garber   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NfhrVNqF1A
 
Arthur Fields and His Assassinators   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c7Ip7mLM4w
 
Harry Reser    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjikoy4LYw
 
Wabash Dance Orchestra, arranged by Fud Livingston  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMv4g6Jto4k
 
Rhythmic Eight with a spectacular trumpet solo (and a coda) by Sylvester Ahola    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN-Hxhyx7I
 
Fred Elizalde, piano solo      [url=http:// [/url]
 
The best and best-known recording of “She’s a Great Great Girl” is by Roger Wolfe Kahn. The vital statistics: 
https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/ ... great_girl
 
The roster of musicians:
Tommy Gott, Manny Klein (tp) Jack Teagarden (tb) Arthur Campbell (tu,b) Alfie Evans (cl,as,bar) Arnold Brilhart (cl,as,oboe,fl) unknown (ts), Arthur Schutt (p) Eddie Lang (g) Tony Colucci (bj) Joe Venuti, Joe Raymond (vln) Vic Berton (d) Roger Wolfe Kahn (dir)

Note the presence of Jack Teagarden. It has been stated, incorrectly, that this is his first recording.
Two takes were mastered:
 
take 1, issued  as Victor 21326; solos by Jack and by Joe and Eddie.  Flute (?) at 1:45.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNtf6xl9ZT0

take 2, issued as Victor LPV528




 
 
Question: According to Discographies, Miff Mole was the trombonist in “Give me the Sunshine” recorded right after “She’s a Great Great Girl.” Miff was the regular trombonist for Kahn’s orchestra, so why did Roger hire Teagarden for the recording of “She’s a Great Great Girl” when Miff was around? Or perhaps he was late and Roger found Jack? Or was the hiring of Teagarden deliberate?

 
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4:48 AM - Jul 30, 2018 #2

Brian Rust's Jazz and Ragtime Records 1897-1942 does not have Mole present for either recording of March 14, 1928.  Here is what he has for the Kahn of February-April 1928:

Harold Sturr, cl, ts / Joe Venuti, Joe Raymond, vn / Arthur Schutt, p / Tony Colucci, bj / Eddie Lang, g / Arthur
Campbell, bb / Stan King, d / Franklyn Baur, v. New York, February 8, 1928.
42420-1 -2 Let A Smile Be Your Umbrella (On A Rainy Day) - vFB
Vic 21233, HMV EA-328
42421-2 Say "Yes" Today
Vic 21507

Jack Teagarden, tb, replaces Mole; unknown ts replaces Sturr; Vic Berton. d, replaces King; Campbell doubles sb.
New York, March 14, 1928.
43358- 1 She's A Great, Great Girl
Vic 21326, HMV B-5514, EA-354
43358-2 She's A Great, Great Girl
Vic LPV-528, RD-7826, 731088 (LPs)
43359- 1 Give Me The Sunshine - vFB
Vic 21245

Miff Mole, tb, replaces Teagarden. New York, April 12, 1928.
43560-2 Crazy Rhythm - vFB
Vic LPV-523, LSA-3078 (LPs)
43560-3 Crazy Rhythm - vFB
Vic 21368, HMV B-5535, K-5461

https://books.google.com/books?id=7p5HAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA947

Howard J. Waters, Jr. in Jack Teagarden's Music carefully avoids the fallacy that this was Teagarden's first record but says "It was one of his first and THE first recording on which he was prominently featured...Oddly enough, Teagarden's appearance on the recording date happened only because Miff Mole, Kahn's regular trombonist, overslept!" (p. 165)  Waters also says (p. 52) that  the second trumpeter (prominent on Give Me the Sunshine) "is not positively established, but is neither Leo McConville nor Mannie Klein, both of whom had recorded frequently with Kahn, nor does the author believe it was Ray Lodwig, as has been proposed. The author feels that it is very likely the same man as on ‘I’m More than Satisfied’ by The All Star Orchestra (Victor 21605); this trumpeter has not been satisfactorily identified in any of the standard discographical references.  The trombone-like straight melody solo which opens the last chorus of ‘Give me the Sunshine’ was, in fact, played by Tommy Gott on trumpet.”

See http://www.normanfield.com/rwk.htm for an alternative discography which does list Mole as present on the session and refers to " the second title, on which Miff Mole seemed to have participated..."
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1:44 PM - Jul 30, 2018 #3

A few days ago, Mike K wrote:
"Somehow Vic Berton tracked Teagarden  down to make....." great
great girl " session. Because Miff. had car issues and was some distance
away on Long Island.  Pee Wee Russell. took the phone call  from. Berton."
From  pages 63 and 64 "Jack Teagarden : the story of a jazz maverick,  Jay D. Smith and Len Guttridge.

In Lost Chords. Sudhalter simply says that Miff got Jack as a sub.
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