MVB UCI at-large chances

MVB UCI at-large chances

gouci
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April 16th, 2018, 7:54 am #1

The short story is if we beat Hawaii we probably get an at-large.

Our sos, head to head, record vs bubble teams gives us the edge.

Hawaii probably needs to win the BWT to make the big dance.
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Eatersto1
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April 16th, 2018, 10:50 am #2

RPI wise as of last night
1. LBSU lock
2. BYU
3. UCLA
4. UC Irvine bubbly
5. Hawaii bubbly
6. Loyola bubbling
7. Ohio State bubbling
8. Lewis boiling
9. Pepperdine out
10. George Mason out

How UCI is faring against these top 10.
Lost to LBSU twice
Swept BYU at home
Lost to UCLA twice
Split at Hawaii
Beat Loyola neutral
Did not play Ohio State
Beat Lewis neutral
Split with Pepperdine away win
Beat George Mason at home

We need 1 quality win to stay in the mix, because if there's no upset in the MPSF this week, MPSF will get 2 bids.
Not sure if having to play the extra match vs UCSD will help (as it so does in SEC baseball and basketball). But for sure we will need to get to the Big West championship minimum, and that means must win over Hawaii.

Unlike WVB, MVB is not used to playing a lot of matches in a short span of time. It's mostly 2 matches a week back to back or a day off. But now it's time for a back to back to back at the Pyramid.
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gouci
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April 16th, 2018, 11:56 am #3

The selection committee uses 10 criteria.

assuming LB, ucla & byu is in & Pepperdine is out.

RPI ranking (#4 UCI)
ahead of the rest

Strength of schedule (#2 UCI)
ahead of the rest


Won-lost results (20-8)
behind the rest


Head-to-head competition
ahead of Loyola, push the rest


— Results versus non-conference opponents (14-4)
probably do well here


Home (9-4)record
behind the rest

— Road (8-4) results

ahead of Loyola, behind the rest


— Results against common opponents
probably do well here


— Results against teams already qualified and other teams under consideration (6-6)
?


— Eligibility and availability of student-athletes for NCAA championships.
Likely push
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Eatersto1
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April 16th, 2018, 12:14 pm #4

So conference standings isn't one of them.
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gouci
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April 16th, 2018, 12:31 pm #5

If we lose to Hawaii but keep a better RPI we beat them 5-4 using the 10 criteria above.  Win or not vs Hawaii UCI would win the at-large.  I wouldn't want to prove my theory LOL.

We win RPI , Strength of schedule, Road record (7-3), Record vs. common opponents (13-5), Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration (6-6) = 5

UH win Won-lost results, Head-to-head competition (2-1), Non-conference record (12-3), Home record (12-3) = 4


If the 1st line is true.

UCI vs Hawaii = 5-4 UCI
UCI vs Ohio st. = 4-4 tie
UCI vs LUC = 5-4 UCI
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Eatersto1
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April 16th, 2018, 12:45 pm #6

gouci wrote: If we lose to Hawaii but keep a better RPI we beat them 5-4 using the 10 criteria above.  Win or not vs Hawaii UCI would win the at-large.  I wouldn't want to prove my theory LOL.

We win RPI , Strength of schedule, Road record (7-3), Record vs. common opponents (13-5), Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration (6-6) = 5

UH win Won-lost results, Head-to-head competition (2-1), Non-conference record (12-3), Home record (12-3) = 4
Do you remember what Hawaii edged us on last season?
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gouci
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April 16th, 2018, 12:50 pm #7

Eatersto1 wrote:
gouci wrote: If we lose to Hawaii but keep a better RPI we beat them 5-4 using the 10 criteria above.  Win or not vs Hawaii UCI would win the at-large.  I wouldn't want to prove my theory LOL.

We win RPI , Strength of schedule, Road record (7-3), Record vs. common opponents (13-5), Record vs. teams qualified or under consideration (6-6) = 5

UH win Won-lost results, Head-to-head competition (2-1), Non-conference record (12-3), Home record (12-3) = 4
Do you remember what Hawaii edged us on last season?
You can find it at Off the Block blog.
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April 16th, 2018, 2:14 pm #8

gouci wrote: The short story is if we beat Hawaii we probably get an at-large.

Our sos, head to head, record vs bubble teams gives us the edge.

Hawaii probably needs to win the BWT to make the big dance.
Are we slated to play Hawaii in the second round, assuming we both win in the first round? Do the highest remaining seeds play the lowest remaining seeds in each round?
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Eatersto1
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April 16th, 2018, 3:57 pm #9

BeefEater2 wrote:
gouci wrote: The short story is if we beat Hawaii we probably get an at-large.

Our sos, head to head, record vs bubble teams gives us the edge.

Hawaii probably needs to win the BWT to make the big dance.
Are we slated to play Hawaii in the second round, assuming we both win in the first round? Do the highest remaining seeds play the lowest remaining seeds in each round?
Long Beach and Hawaii have byes to the semis.
Bracket is not reseeded.

Long Beach faces the 4-5 winner and Hawaii the 3-6 winner
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BeefEater2
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April 16th, 2018, 5:07 pm #10

OK. Well, that seems pretty fair. I mean, if we lose to Hawaii and don't get an At Large, I won't feel like we got a raw deal. 
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